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Oakie will lose some popularity...he's starting to lose me
DJ Jean
JD Jurgean 4 sure...unless she puts out another good beat

I think Oakenfold already lost popularity since 99.. still like him tho I agree he'll probably be in a greater decline this year and come back strong in the future maybe!

latez...

Just an objective view, not a personal preference ...

Most hardhouse / nu nrg DJs will hit it really big this year
Most trance DJs will lose out this year

sad but true ... hardhouse is the new trance right now (popularity-wise)

peace

C'mon

ya'll better reconize

Max Graham will conquer all and that is final

already a resident at gate crasher
and
he will be doing the Tranceport 4 cd

Paul Oakenfold already became unpopular with all that gatecrasher crap. He is coming back now and starting to be original again.. in my mind.. I like his new stuff

and in my mind Paul van Dyk will for sure loose popularity.

Suzaku sees the future

Although Tiesto's sets will continue to be superb and his productions amazing, his popularity will wane in the near future simply because he has become too popular. People will say "Bah... everybody listens to Tiesto, I'm cool because I like (insert unknown DJ here)". He will weather out his detractors in this rough period and will win many new fans in the UK and the US

Oakenfold has already lost alot of his former glory and sadly nothing he's come out with lately has conviced me he will rise again.

Ferry Corsten will continue to produce one fantastic song after another, as well as putting out many more amazing remixes.

People internationally will know the name Joshua Ryan first for "Pistolwhip", then for his other great tracks, "Distance", "The Chase", "Unreal" (heh... or at least they will now since I keep dropping his name on this forum).

OR I could be completely wrong about everything I've said and HHC will conquer all

Suzaku

HHC conquer all, I hope not!! I agree that Max Graham should get the recognition he deserves this year.. I agree that epic/uplifting trance will lose popularity, but like we already see, the progressive stuff will take off... I think this is good because if the epic style returns, it will be fresher (well it will still be around so when you hear them it will be more special than whats been happening lately, epic overload in my opinion, we're passed that stage already tho)

I can't wait to see new faces in this music also!!

latez...

The year 2001 is coming to a close....were out predictions right??? What do you guys think is gonna be big in 2002??? I just thought id bring this post back from the dead


Later
Psi

1.Ferry Corsten (the backlash is getting bigger, i heard tiesto hates him now.....rumor)
2.Seb Fontaine (wish he would retire)
3.Paul Oakenfold
4.Junior Vasquez (time for 55 yr old to call it a career)

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Originally posted by torontotrance 1.Ferry Corsten (the backlash is getting bigger, i heard tiesto hates him now.....rumor) 2.Seb Fontaine (wish he would retire) 3.Paul Oakenfold 4.Junior Vasquez (time for 55 yr old to call it a ca reer)

HAHA nice summary TTA

I think it's funny how sometimes Paul Oakenfold catches a lot of shit for trying to bring electronica to a new audience. Most of the people that have responded to this particular topic feel that Paul Oakenfold will lose his popularity and fade from the fans' memories. But what most of you have failed to realize is the fact that probably 80-90% of the American audience is fairly inexperienced with the new wave of electronic music that's currently spreading here. That simple fact alone will make Oakenfold's fame probably triple in the coming year, not detiorate. The larger audience can appeal to Paul Oakenfold's style of music because it's very "user-friendly" in the aspect that almost anyone who's not a die-hard electronic music fan will still find it incredibly entertaining. I know that I did when I first started religously listening to electronica. I still regard him as one the the best DJ's that has ever lived. He paved the way for artists such as your famed Tiesto and Ferry Corsten. He still has a tremendous amount to offer the scene and I think it's a huge mistake to count out someone who has single-handedly changed electronic music the globe-over. It's fairly obvious that the audience that currently regards Oakenfold as a sell out and a cheese artist are a very cynical few and I feel don't accuratley represent the opinions of the masses in the U.S. and abroad.
The funniest thing to me about this entire argument is how the sound of Ferry Corsten, Tiesto, and frankly every single Dutch DJ (with the exception of Sander Klienenberg) could easily fall under the same "cheesy ass" sound everyone here seems to place Oakenfold in. Now don't take that completely the wrong way...I do have respect for them(Tiesto and Corsten have some amazing productions), but I don't feel that the arguement that their style is all too different from that of Paul Oakenfold's really carries any weight whatsoever.
Let's not forget, when Paul Oakenfold played at home in the UK this year, he did a bang up job. (IE: Gatecrasher Summer Sound System, and his Essential Mix from the NEC in Birmingham.)

Just my thoughts...

And a final note,

When Sasha and John Digweed embark on their 30 city U.S. tour this coming year will everyone dismiss them as sell-outs and cheese artists and cast them aside with Paul Oakenfold? If so, you'll have condemned the three best DJ's in the world. Perhaps the world will go crazy over the next back to back duo of "Corsten and Van Buuren."

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Originally posted by torontotrance 1.Ferry Corsten (the backlash is getting bigger, i heard tiesto hates him now.....rumor)

why would Tiesto hate him???

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Originally posted by OakeyRidesAnR1 When Sasha and John Digweed embark on their 30 city U.S. tour this coming year will everyone dismiss them as sell-outs and cheese artists and cast them aside with Paul Oakenfold? If so, you'll have condemned the three best DJ's in the world. Perhaps the world will go crazy over the next back to back duo of "Corsten and Van Buuren."

i could never see Sasha or digweed be considered cheeze artist .... not even commerical ..they rarely play the same sets over and over again.....and they have been touring US before ..... and the reason they couldnt be cheeze is that theyre playlists are so non popular with most of the crowd doesnt even know the tracks they play..so its hard to really focus on there songs and say cheeze....whether u had there music or not i cant see them ever be considered cheeze

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Originally posted by skywarp Just an objective view, not a personal preference ... Most hardhouse / nu nrg DJs will hit it really big this year Most trance DJs will lose out this (2000 - Jocker) year

you didn't guess it right i'm so glad that hardhouse euphoria is over.

I think, nobody saw judge jules dropping down so much (even though he spinned his best, imho, set throughout his whole career - live @ qontact)... i hoped he would get better this year. i still hope that in 2002 judge will gain the euphorism of his sets back. oakie dropped down predictably. tiesto rose up unbelieveably fast.

i think this year paul oakenfold will fall down even further (if he doesn't do something really extraordinary). i would really like to see scott bond coming up with some good stuff like his TE mix, and i have hope in judge jules too... would like to hear more of sasha, nick warren (and his way out west), dave seaman. surely look forward to hearing tiesto this year: can he amaze me even more?

The Obvious Choice.

It was very predictable that a lot of you would choose Oakenfold but I wouldn't write him off if I was you, he's been around the block a good few times and to have stayed in the 'premier league' this long he must have a lot savvy. I would suggest that he's confounded people before and he'll do it again, he's a winner.

Oakie might fall definately..but ppl will still always remember him
Tiesto is very popular right now, but da way i see him, he's very lazy nothing from dis year has impressed me in his set i guess dat Tiesto is just starting 2 be da dj 4 newbies

DJ Jean, Jurgen, and all of those other cheesy dj's might fall...but u have remember dat commercial dj's r gonna be da dj's who will always be popular

rising stars:

Armin Van Buuren
DJ Orkidea
and maybe Way Out West, we'll see on there tour in US

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Originally posted by TranceCluber i could never see Sasha or digweed be considered cheeze artist .... not even commerical ..they rarely play the same sets over and over again.....and they have been touring US before ..... and the reason they couldnt be cheeze is that theyre playlists are so non popular with most of the crowd doesnt even know the tracks they play..so its hard to really focus on there songs and say cheeze....whether u had there music or not i cant see them ever be considered cheeze

That's what everyone said about Paul Oakenfold in 1998-1999. Watch what happens if one day the masses decide that progressive just isn't the flavor anymore...

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Originally posted by OakeyRidesAnR1 That's what everyone said about Paul Oakenfold in 1998-1999. Watch what happens if one day the masses decide that progressive just isn't the flavor anymore...

aslong as they spin progressive then they could never become commerical u have to understand the genre of progressive is called progressive cuz it always progresses into what new and what fresh in sound... progressive never really gets old to the ear cuz its new and inovative to the ears..but thats why many cant stand progressive cuz its not the norm.... so Oakenfold plays tunes that are more commerical to the ear easier listening stuff so it is way more likely to be considered old and commerical rather then progressive house which is always inovative and new ... like if u listen to Sasha - Expander those tunes were considered progressive back when they came out ..but when u listen to them now they are more trance then progressive ...so it shows u that progressive always changes and cant be just a trend..... the Epic trance movement was a progressive rout of trance in the late 90s.... even thought its not progressive but it was a progressed from norm trance and became a trend.....well in the other hand Progressive the genre is always new and changes so it cant ever be really trendy or commerical .

predicting the future is like...
predicting the future... impossible

"popularity will wane in the near future simply because he has become too popular. People will say "Bah... everybody listens to Tiesto, I'm cool because I like (insert unknown DJ here)"

This is soooooo true, of almost anyone. People are sheep, people are fickle. Stay DJing in yer bedroom, at least you know the crowd's always with you ;-)

I do agree with a couple of others - no more Darude, please.
And hard house is not the new trance, it's the new happy hardcore. Personally, the more popular it is the better I like it, as those parties take all the idiots who listen to commercial radio and leave the nice people for our parties.

Hmmm... guess this reads a bit misanthropic, never mind.

My December top 11 with MP3s is at
http://www.djhelix.co.nz

Helix

oh yeah... people keep going on about new tunes. Yeah, we've gotta have them, but I listen to lots of tunes each year and very few 'make it' in terms of quality - a lot of it's formulaic.

You want GOOD trance, check out stuff from around '95 to '97.
Cygnus X, Eye Q records, Flying Rhino, Eve Records, Platipus, Earth Nation... deep, fast, uplifting, melodic, hard, beautiful...

I still get a rush off it even now, and you play stuff like this to crowds who haven't heard it and they get absolutely blown away.

more like this please, rather than quasi-pop which is what a lot of the big tunes end up being :-)

my December top 11 with MP3's is up on
http://www.djhelix.co.nz

track of the moment - Dreams : Miss Shiva remix : VC recordings
(quality remix of a track from about '95)

helix

see you in the USA, Canada and Europe next Summer :-)

Originally posted by TranceCluber

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aslong as they spin progressive then they could never become commerical u have to understand the genre of progressive is called progressive cuz it always progresses into what new and what fresh in sound...

That's not at all what the progressive sound is...

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Originally posted by TranceCluber aslong as they spin progressive then they could never become commerical u have to understand the genre of progressive is called progressive cuz it always progresses into what new and what fresh in sound... progressive never really gets old to the ear cuz its new and inovative to the ears..but thats why many cant stand progressive cuz its not the norm.... so Oakenfold plays tunes that are more commerical to the ear easier listening stuff so it is way more likely to be considered old and commerical rather then progressive house which is always inovative and new ... like if u listen to Sasha - Expander those tunes were considered progressive back when they came out ..but when u listen to them now they are more trance then progressive ...so it shows u that progressive always changes and cant be just a trend..... the Epic trance movement was a progressive rout of trance in the late 90s.... even thought its not progressive but it was a progressed from norm trance and became a trend.....well in the other hand Progressive the genre is always new and changes so it cant ever be really trendy or commerical .

This is completely wrong - progressive does not stand for what is currently unknown and underground. It has to do with the actual production. It is a "definable" genre. It is quite possible that progressive could become trendy. And your Xpander example is horseshit, that was considered trance from the get go, at least the short edit was, and the long one is may be a little more progressive but it really has nothing to do with what it was considered to be then or what it is now. And just to go back a little more if I can. World class Dj's got where they are for a reason. Oakey knows how to make people dance. It is a shame that some people seem to have forgotten that, that is what spinning records is all about. I'll tell you that Oakey will undoubtely spin a more "danceable" set than most of these up and coming and not quite as experienced Dj's.

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Originally posted by Slinky775 This is completely wrong - progressive does not stand for what is currently unknown and underground. And your Xpander example is horseshit

never said it stands for currently unknonw and underground..... but progressive is always a genre comming out with the new sounds .... there areso many differnt kinds of progressive almost as much as trance sub genres...people used to consider it a part of trance and house..but to me Progressive is a genre all of its own.... well if there is such thing as a trendy progressive track let me know i curious to what it is... Dude when u listen to expander in 98,99 when trance was very epic and melodic.... Expander was very progressive sounding compared to other trance. usually played by other progressive djs at that time. Progressive is always on the move to change its sound...and ur reaction of my expander example geez bro dont shit a brick!!!

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Originally posted by TranceCluber never said it stands for currently unknonw and underground..... but progressive is always a genre comming out with the new sounds .... there areso many differnt kinds of progressive almost as much as trance sub genres...people used to consider it a part of trance and house..but to me Progressive is a genre all of its own.... well if there is such thing as a trendy progressive track let me know i curious to what it is... Dude when u listen to expander in 98,99 when trance was very epic and melodic.... Expander was very progressive sounding compared to other trance. usually played by other progressive djs at that time. Progressive is always on the move to change its sound...and ur reaction of my expander example geez bro dont shit a brick!!!

Maybe that was a little harsh but I feel very strongly about this subject here. And I want to make sure we are on the same page. I agree that progressive is always evolving but so is trance. Really my frustration lies in your saying that progressive is a style that is so elusive and constantly changing that it is not only hard to define, but also could not possibly be boring. This view of yours is simply not true. Progressive is a genre, plain and simple. Therefore it is possible that it could become mainstream and get overpalyed, and thus be cheesy at some point. That is just how music works, and not just music, this applies to anything type of media that goes mainstream.

I hope that Oakie loses popularity. But then again it would be nice to see him live one more time.

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