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I cringe at discussions like this. Trance originally got its cheese conotations when progressive became popular (for the short time that it did) & people like Sean Quinn started bagging trance as a way for him & his inaccessible crap to look cool. Trance will border on being cheesy. some of the stuff we listen to has commercial appeal, melody will do that. At the end of the day though, melody is what people remember & is what makes an anthem that you can play 5 years down the track. Sure, there are some really CRAP vocal trance trax, but there are also good ones. A dj's job is to find the good stuff, and most of the ones i know & that are used at 5am are good at doing this.
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| Originally posted by connekt Cheese is cheese. Mostly everyone knows that its cheese. But some dont like to profess that they like cheese, so they claim it isnt, while others think that they are cheese connoisseurs, and in this arrogance, feel the need to claim everything that isnt up to their 'HIGH' standards is in fact cheese |
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| A dj's job is to find the good stuff, and most of the ones i know & that are used at 5am are good at doing this. |
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| Originally posted by Mangler I cringe at discussions like this. Trance originally got its cheese conotations when progressive became popular (for the short time that it did) & people like Sean Quinn started bagging trance as a way for him & his inaccessible crap to look cool. Trance will border on being cheesy. some of the stuff we listen to has commercial appeal, melody will do that. At the end of the day though, melody is what people remember & is what makes an anthem that you can play 5 years down the track. Sure, there are some really CRAP vocal trance trax, but there are also good ones. A dj's job is to find the good stuff, and most of the ones i know & that are used at 5am are good at doing this. |
xavier is Greencourt feat. Lina Rafn - Silent Heart (Flutlict mix) cheese?
try playing that to ppl which don't like trance/hard trance and the chances are they'll all hate it and call it techno, not cheese 
The Basics of Making Cheese
The process of cheesemaking is an ancient craft that dates back thousands of years. By today's standards of industrial technology, the process of cheesemaking is still a complicated one which combines both "Art" and "Science" together. The subject of cheese has been extensively investigated by many research groups in many countries. Table 2.1: Chemical Composition (%) of Milks of Selected Species of Mammals. (Data compiled from Scott (1986)).
Animal Fat Protein Milk Sugar Minerals
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Cow 3.8 3.0 4.8 0.75
Goat 6.0 3.3 4.6 0.84
Sheep 9.0 4.6 4.7 1.00
Buffalo 6.0 3.8 4.5 0.75
buffalo cheese? eeeek 
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| Originally posted by InAcoma A few days ago around lunch time i heard chicane- saltwater on nova, by ur definition, is this track cheese??? |
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| Originally posted by Drifter wtf??? yea flutlicht and shokk are hard trance...do you call them cheese i know its all personal opinions but don't be dissing hard trance now |
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| Originally posted by -=M=- unless it was late night, or under a live set, then yes |
Flutlicht are barra though Xavier 
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| Originally posted by Mangler I cringe at discussions like this. Trance originally got its cheese conotations when progressive became popular (for the short time that it did) & people like Sean Quinn started bagging trance as a way for him & his inaccessible crap to look cool. Trance will border on being cheesy. some of the stuff we listen to has commercial appeal, melody will do that. At the end of the day though, melody is what people remember & is what makes an anthem that you can play 5 years down the track. Sure, there are some really CRAP vocal trance trax, but there are also good ones. A dj's job is to find the good stuff, and most of the ones i know & that are used at 5am are good at doing this. |
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| Originally posted by Xavier yes I call them cheese! What I mean is The name hard trance should be wiped out, it should be just be called hard instead of hard trance,this sound doesnt deserve to be classified under trance. The word trance needs to be taken out. The words hard and trance should never be put together! Sorry i'm too passionate |

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| Originally posted by -=M=- unless it was late night, or under a live set, then yes |
gotta agree with mangler there. i think trance has been labelled "cheese" by fans of other genres because it has melody and very often can be easily accessed by the general public. but some artists that simply apply the same set formula to any song ... well then i say cheese. e.g. all these songs come out this year that are just old pop songs, add some synth and trancey sounding sections.. and walla, a new song to release. (time after time, boys of summer, all the scooter crap) You can tell when not much creative effort has been put into them. i think that's cheese personally. on a lighter note.. i love cheese. cheese on toast... macaroni cheese, cheese and crackers... mmmm 
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| Originally posted by -=M=- unless it was late night, or under a live set, then yes |
DIE MOFO
theres no doubt saltwater is cheese
14 year old louise across the road blasts that everyday 24/7 non stop.
Its every fuckin hour fol lol the day, I'm like stfu!
Maybe you should go pay louise a visit 
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Originally posted by InAcoma DIE MOFOHAHAHAH there is no way chicane- saltwater fits into the cheese catagory As for u... meh ur definition is stupid |
Well me n da boys decided to go and investigate, what makes cheese? Our trip to my dads uncles wifes daughters boyfriends friend who owns a farm out not far from the city
One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind

We arrived that nite, and soon got into party mode, raging all nite!

We were all hungover in the morning, but slowly arose to the midday sun. I went straight for the shitter - an after grog bog was calling. But i didn't make it to the toilet, cos i went through to the door to be greeted by a nasty grizzly angry bear, ready to kill me
I shat my dacks there n then.

After that encounter, we were rounded up n went out to search for the cheese. Our host pointed us in the right direction, and then we started.

We felt sorta awkward, cos the cows knew what was up. They were gettin pissed off too..

By the end of the day, we had finished what we'd started.

So we searched around, and then outta the blue, comes the cheesemongo! He said: "HI!! I'm the cheesemongo!"
I got a photo of him straight away!!

He then handed me a copy of his best tune

And introduced me to his friends.


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| Originally posted by -=M=- pfft we all have our own opinions go listen to triple m |
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| Originally posted by Pointy Well me n da boys decided to go and investigate, what makes cheese? Our trip to my dads uncles wifes daughters boyfriends friend who owns a farm out not far from the city One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind ![]() We arrived that nite, and soon got into party mode, raging all nite! ![]() We were all hungover in the morning, but slowly arose to the midday sun. I went straight for the shitter - an after grog bog was calling. But i didn't make it to the toilet, cos i went through to the door to be greeted by a nasty grizzly angry bear, ready to kill me I shat my dacks there n then. ![]() After that encounter, we were rounded up n went out to search for the cheese. Our host pointed us in the right direction, and then we started. ![]() We felt sorta awkward, cos the cows knew what was up. They were gettin pissed off too.. ![]() By the end of the day, we had finished what we'd started. ![]() So we searched around, and then outta the blue, comes the cheesemongo! He said: "HI!! I'm the cheesemongo!" I got a photo of him straight away!! ![]() He then handed me a copy of his best tune ![]() And introduced me to his friends. ![]() |
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| Originally posted by escee context of the song does not matter. If tiesto dropped heaven half way through his set it would still be cheese. If i hear saltwater on the irish tourism adverts then its not cheese. |
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| Originally posted by Euphorica@AUS U SHOULD DIE 2 MOFO cause heaven aint cheese cheese = southern sun vocals on that = Horrendous |
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| Originally posted by Euphorica@AUS U SHOULD DIE 2 MOFO cause heaven aint cheese cheese = southern sun vocals on that = Horrendous |
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| Originally posted by Euphorica@AUS U SHOULD DIE 2 MOFO cause heaven aint cheese cheese = southern sun vocals on that = Horrendous |

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| Originally posted by Philby yeah, and your opinion is wrong. |
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