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Posted by dstrukt on Jun-12-2003 13:07:

Im sure our government are caught up in zoolander world or something.

I mean come on guys there must be more to life than being really really really really ridiceously multi-cultural? :P


Posted by AndskiSpeed on Jun-12-2003 13:22:

quote:
Originally posted by evil_bastard
Guys, you're all missing the point. Right now the flag isn't multicultural because it only represents red and blue people, we have a lot of black people living here too. It's time we moved into the 21st century and developed a society where red, blue and black people can get along nicely.


Thanks, thats the most sensible post ever. Show this to the flag..people.


Posted by chris_norris on Jun-12-2003 13:35:

quote:
Originally posted by evil_bastard
Guys, you're all missing the point. Right now the flag isn't multicultural because it only represents red and blue people, we have a lot of black people living here too. It's time we moved into the 21st century and developed a society where red, blue and black people can get along nicely.


he he he, quality.

Besides, this would never happen anyway would it?

Who has the authority to change the flag? Anyone know?


Posted by Misty Kitty on Jun-12-2003 14:14:

the monarch / government i suppose,


Posted by Luke Terry on Jun-12-2003 14:56:

Cool

quote:
Originally posted by djtezz
OMFG! what! what is all this world coming too, well as Project T said that a flag would be flying high??? mine has been for years! they can't do anything like that its against us in a way...I just don't believe it...


can't get away with being a patriot without being racist round here really, although my newcastle unions jack (pure black + white) will always be above my bed


Posted by decode on Jun-12-2003 15:32:

This country cares more about sorting forgein people out rather than its own people. Tossers.


Posted by joeh on Jun-12-2003 15:36:

This is the flag of Niger:


This is the flag of Nigeria:


This is the flag of Chad:


and here is the flag of Ethiopia:


African countries, no black in the flag.

Odd that.


Posted by Ste on Jun-12-2003 15:49:

if this goes ahead what will the do next, start killing whites so theres an even amount of white and black people?


Posted by Fundamental on Jun-12-2003 15:59:

quote:
Originally posted by joeh152
African countries, no black in the flag.

Odd that.



hahaha!! And half of them have white in their flag! Shock, Horror!!


Posted by DaveSZ on Jun-12-2003 16:40:

quote:
Originally posted by joeh152
This is the flag of Niger:






Lol. When I was little I didn't know why it was ok to name your country a word you weren't allowed to say aloud.

...then I learned to spell.


Posted by Miss Proximus on Jun-13-2003 08:45:

what fucken heritage is that what you are all talking about!

i'm not at all feeling linked to any Dutch heritage simply because I think a nation is a bad thing to have! ever thought about the fact of war? would there be warss if we didn't have those stupid boundaries etc?

about the UK heritage...hello!! Murdering bastards that go on a killing spree in africa and india? ye surely smth to be proud of!!

if i were to be proud of anything it's being part of the EU..being part of smth larger than just 1 little country (yes...we invented apartheid...thanks to you lot too tho)..


bleh...just felt like ranting


but i do think this whole flag-thing is more conservative than progressive! i mean we are past the whole discrimination thing now aren't we?


Posted by Fundamental on Jun-13-2003 09:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Miss Proximus
i mean we are past the whole discrimination thing now aren't we?


Yeah, so why should there be a need to change then?


Posted by swisstoni on Jun-13-2003 10:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Miss Proximus

but i do think this whole flag-thing is more conservative than progressive! i mean we are past the whole discrimination thing now aren't we?


Actually love, it's nothing to do with conservative ideas. Its to do with do-gooders wanting to enhance their careers, and most of them are defo left-wing, or liberals promoting human rights.


Posted by dj_mdma on Jun-13-2003 12:21:

What is the point of all this?!

I'm vietnamese by blood, British by Nationality. I was born here and i've been raised in a Western manner.

I'm proud to be British. I've intergrated with the main culture here (English) and i work and pay taxes. So do my parents.

My parents were refugees from the Vietnam war and came here in 1983. Obviously the government gave them a helping hand, but they were very quick to distance themselves from handouts and earn their keep themselves. We are proud to be british, as our adopted country has treated us well, and in return, we treat it, and its citizens well.

My parents are not liking the current government at the moment. As a middle class family earning about 50K gross household income, they are hit the hardest by all these tax reforms. and its been steadily getting worse. working class people get more handouts, and rich people aren't really affected by anything.

The asylum issu eis a strong one for them, mainly because, they too were once in those shoes. They strongly resent illegal asylum seekers for many reasons.
1) if the country was so bad that you had to leave, then you would be glad to come across the 1st friendly country, why is there a need to move on?
2) If you're going to stay here, be greatful for what you have and at least integrate into the society which has accepted you.

There have been many stories about asylum seekers complaining that their 3 bedroom semi-detached house isn't big enough, they don't have enouhg money, and they are always asking for more. Surely they should be greatful, since they are getting everything free? or really by the taxpayer?

Of course i'm sure that some asylum seekers WILL take advantage of our society , for the better. I'm sure many will get an education, get a good job and eventually contribute to British life. However, those few people's acheivements will be overshadowed by the overall majority of asylum seekers, living as parasites on our great country.

theres my rant and rave. And don't change the flag dammit!


Posted by Yella Fella on Jun-13-2003 15:01:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_mdma
What is the point of all this?!

I'm vietnamese by blood, British by Nationality. I was born here and i've been raised in a Western manner.

I'm proud to be British. I've intergrated with the main culture here (English) and i work and pay taxes. So do my parents.

My parents were refugees from the Vietnam war and came here in 1983. Obviously the government gave them a helping hand, but they were very quick to distance themselves from handouts and earn their keep themselves. We are proud to be british, as our adopted country has treated us well, and in return, we treat it, and its citizens well.

My parents are not liking the current government at the moment. As a middle class family earning about 50K gross household income, they are hit the hardest by all these tax reforms. and its been steadily getting worse. working class people get more handouts, and rich people aren't really affected by anything.

The asylum issu eis a strong one for them, mainly because, they too were once in those shoes. They strongly resent illegal asylum seekers for many reasons.
1) if the country was so bad that you had to leave, then you would be glad to come across the 1st friendly country, why is there a need to move on?
2) If you're going to stay here, be greatful for what you have and at least integrate into the society which has accepted you.

There have been many stories about asylum seekers complaining that their 3 bedroom semi-detached house isn't big enough, they don't have enouhg money, and they are always asking for more. Surely they should be greatful, since they are getting everything free? or really by the taxpayer?

Of course i'm sure that some asylum seekers WILL take advantage of our society , for the better. I'm sure many will get an education, get a good job and eventually contribute to British life. However, those few people's acheivements will be overshadowed by the overall majority of asylum seekers, living as parasites on our great country.

theres my rant and rave. And don't change the flag dammit!


here here man! im chinese, also born and raised here in england, proud to be british citizen, earning our way thru life. I mean its not like they have introduce yellow into the flag. Why start now? It should stay as it is.

Besides, aren't the colours more to do with the countries that form UK e.g. england, scotland, northern ireland, and wales?


Posted by j_spot on Jun-13-2003 18:07:

hey while they are at it, why not change the fucking coat of arms as well?

Changing the Union Jack CANT happen. Its not like the US confederate flag which out and out stands for a racist view. The union jack isnt used by the KKK as a symbol of their unity. It unites countries. And unless thoese no longer exists, they CANT change the flag. I will bomb the fuck out of whoever tries to.

How exactly is a FLAG multicultural? does it depict white, yellow, black brown and red people standing together? does it have symbolism of many different cultures together(like the olympic flag linking all 5 continents)
Yes the new flag is quite snazzy..I like the black. Its a good design, but there is no fucking way that it will replace the Union Jack.
argh why do I check the english section, now im mad.


Posted by Sav on Jun-13-2003 18:44:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_mdma
What is the point of all this?!

I'm vietnamese by blood, British by Nationality. I was born here and i've been raised in a Western manner.

I'm proud to be British. I've intergrated with the main culture here (English) and i work and pay taxes. So do my parents.

My parents were refugees from the Vietnam war and came here in 1983. Obviously the government gave them a helping hand, but they were very quick to distance themselves from handouts and earn their keep themselves. We are proud to be british, as our adopted country has treated us well, and in return, we treat it, and its citizens well.

My parents are not liking the current government at the moment. As a middle class family earning about 50K gross household income, they are hit the hardest by all these tax reforms. and its been steadily getting worse. working class people get more handouts, and rich people aren't really affected by anything.

The asylum issu eis a strong one for them, mainly because, they too were once in those shoes. They strongly resent illegal asylum seekers for many reasons.
1) if the country was so bad that you had to leave, then you would be glad to come across the 1st friendly country, why is there a need to move on?
2) If you're going to stay here, be greatful for what you have and at least integrate into the society which has accepted you.

There have been many stories about asylum seekers complaining that their 3 bedroom semi-detached house isn't big enough, they don't have enouhg money, and they are always asking for more. Surely they should be greatful, since they are getting everything free? or really by the taxpayer?

Of course i'm sure that some asylum seekers WILL take advantage of our society , for the better. I'm sure many will get an education, get a good job and eventually contribute to British life. However, those few people's acheivements will be overshadowed by the overall majority of asylum seekers, living as parasites on our great country.

theres my rant and rave. And don't change the flag dammit!


Amen to that!


Posted by Misty Kitty on Jun-13-2003 20:25:

im not sure what they are trying to achive by suggesting we change the flag, let alone actually doing it. surely it wont make ne significant differences to the way things are in this counrty??

unfortunately in this land of democracy we dont have too much of a say in it really.


Posted by Technaut on Jun-13-2003 20:30:

tbh i dont think the flag will get changed.


Posted by Robert on Jun-13-2003 23:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Technaut
tbh i dont think the flag will get changed.



it wont, ffs check my post pages back...


Posted by evil_bastard on Jun-14-2003 10:59:

It was never going to get changed, it was just some silly money-spinning idea which got laughed at.

I would personally like to see our national anthem changed though. "God save the Queen"? Well as an atheist who would like to see the monarchy abolished I'd feel like a twat singing to that. A lot of people believe it should be changed to 'Land of Hope and Glory'. A bit fantasistical perhaps but at least it doesn't have any mention of god or the monarchy, which the majority of the younger generations don't believe in.

I think our national anthem should be an entire trance set


Posted by Spyder on Jun-14-2003 14:43:



eeek looks like a load of crap to tell you the turth..

sorta looks like a natzi thing.. sorry but just thats wot came to my mind when i first saw it..

but i doutb they will change it

a few years back canada was thinking of changing its flag by adding a blue into it.. but most ppl went against it for the reason that it would of looked too much like america and that it was pathetic lookin..


Posted by TranceMasterUk on Jun-15-2003 16:10:

the flag looks smart with the black in it, but the reason for doing it is just crazy.


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