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Posted by Philby on Jun-20-2003 08:28:

quote:
Originally posted by gumble
you may well do

rawr! we are now a force to be reckoned with!


lol


Posted by b1_ on Jun-20-2003 09:23:

Hehe, someone else from Adelaide.

Howzit goin'.

That Wherever You Are track I'm afraid I didn't like much. Sorry - keep at it though. Sounded formulaic to me; and the girl sounded a little aimless.

You should check out Christian Rusch's work. He's doing the same thing as you: using Reason to produce tracks on his crappy computer. He's just been signed and has released his first commercial track in Europe; title is Rusch & Murray - Epic. If you haven't already downloaded his free stuff you can get it from here: http://www.beatmaka.com/v2/music/artist.php?id=455 It'll give you some ideas I'm sure.

Also, you should try doing some remix's; that's what Rusch did.

Hope you don't mind some critisism. I'm no expert so what I say you can take with a grain of salt for sure.

Goodluck in the future.

Btw, I'm interested in what you think of the Adelaide Trance scene. I've only been a hardcore fan of Trance for about a year now and in that time I've never seen or heard of any Adelaide producers or Dj's that are doing well; in fact I'm not even sure there are any Trance DJ's or signed producers from Adelaide? Is the Adelaide scene dead or have I just not been looking hard enough?

Cheers


Posted by gumble on Jun-20-2003 09:46:

adelaide trance scene = mr_stamper, dowlz, gelatinpuff and myself


you might caht a few trance tunes at heaven at about 5am on a sunday morning.

thats it though, prog and breaks is whats happening around here now.


adelaide members count ++;

hahah


Posted by Phorte on Jun-20-2003 10:30:

quote:
Originally posted by b1_
That Wherever You Are track I'm afraid I didn't like much. Sorry - keep at it though. Sounded formulaic to me; and the girl sounded a little aimless.

You should check out Christian Rusch's work. He's doing the same thing as you: using Reason to produce tracks on his crappy computer. He's just been signed and has released his first commercial track in Europe; title is Rusch & Murray - Epic. If you haven't already downloaded his free stuff you can get it from here: http://www.beatmaka.com/v2/music/artist.php?id=455 It'll give you some ideas I'm sure.

Also, you should try doing some remix's; that's what Rusch did.

Hope you don't mind some critisism. I'm no expert so what I say you can take with a grain of salt for sure.

Goodluck in the future.

Btw, I'm interested in what you think of the Adelaide Trance scene. I've only been a hardcore fan of Trance for about a year now and in that time I've never seen or heard of any Adelaide producers or Dj's that are doing well; in fact I'm not even sure there are any Trance DJ's or signed producers from Adelaide? Is the Adelaide scene dead or have I just not been looking hard enough?


heya man.. nah i take criticism fine. you should maybe check out my other tracks cos i havent been writing trance for long (that song you heard was actually my second trance song ever written) but ive been producing electronic music in general for the better part of a decade now so maybe you'd find something better in there.. my trance tunes so far are very formulaic and im aware of that =) because im still laying down the, you know, structural side of things and general ground work..

and yeah ive heard rusch's work.. already heard that "epic" song.. he's getting it remixed by above&beyond soon hey and being released on ajunabeats?? im jealous. i love above&beyond a lot.......

wrt to local adelaide scene though.. i havent been in the trance scene for that long either. i mean, yea ive been listening to it for a while but havent kept an eye on the actual dj/producing scene in adelaide and to my knowledge i didnt think there was much of a proper trance scene here =( there was a suprisingly large turnout to when ferry came down last though..

from what ive noticed tho, the only proper trance i hear is once in a while some of the boring doods at heaven will drop a good tune.. this is like, once every 10 tunes.. but then again i never go to that place.

thanks again for listening!


Posted by ascension on Jun-20-2003 11:10:

quote:
Far Away (Instrumental) [Melodic 2-step Garage - 6.3 MB, 4:32, 2002]


i like this!


Posted by gilmista on Jun-20-2003 13:23:

how long did it take u to make "Wherever you Are"?


Posted by Phorte on Jun-20-2003 13:27:

quote:
Originally posted by gilmista
how long did it take u to make "Wherever you Are"?


hmm not that long actually compared to some of my other tunes.. maybe only around a week?

i still need to do another mixdown of it cos the final sound is pretty screwed. bad compression.. =( i need to touch it up big time..

would love some reviews/criticism of my other tracks!!!


Posted by gilmista on Jun-20-2003 14:11:

are u signed on any label or what? you got some talent man go for gold..... GOLDDDDDDDDD!!!


Posted by Phorte on Jun-20-2003 14:18:

quote:
Originally posted by gilmista
are u signed on any label or what? you got some talent man go for gold..... GOLDDDDDDDDD!!!


hahaha GOLDDDDDDD!! *thrusts fists into the air*

nah i havent been signed to any label yet. i dun think im even close to writing releaseable trance material yet. ive been signed to two record labels for my drum&bass side though..

i'll first need to find a different name to release under as to not conflict the different genres i compose for..


Posted by gilmista on Jun-20-2003 14:30:

just dont make it Lucien "Phorte" daaahh


Posted by JayKuE on Jun-20-2003 15:50:

linh, "wherever you are" is a beautiful piece. i'm a sucker for piano synths. =) its a beautiful instrument. shame i gave it up. i like the vocal touch too. no cheesy lyrics. very simple. percussions sound a lil piercing tho, then again, could be my headphones. it is very formulaic, but then that was your intention.

please, let me know when you've finished touching this up. love to play it. will check out ur other tunes.

hehe, u may have jus inspired me to delve into producing.


Posted by Phorte on Jun-21-2003 09:45:

quote:
Originally posted by JayKuE
linh, "wherever you are" is a beautiful piece. i'm a sucker for piano synths. =) its a beautiful instrument. shame i gave it up. i like the vocal touch too. no cheesy lyrics. very simple. percussions sound a lil piercing tho, then again, could be my headphones. it is very formulaic, but then that was your intention.

please, let me know when you've finished touching this up. love to play it. will check out ur other tunes.

hehe, u may have jus inspired me to delve into producing.


thanks for listening, jay. =) im honoured to have inspired you to get into producing.. and will definitely keep you informed on when i finish it off..

how long did you play the piano for? get into producing and then you can write for us lots of uplifting piano trance tunes..

thanks in advance and cant wait to hear what you think of my other tunes!!


Posted by -=M=- on Jun-21-2003 16:52:

wow man, that track is awesome!!!!, how long did it take you to make and what program did you use???


Posted by Phorte on Jun-22-2003 00:47:

haha scroll back in the thread man and you'll find your answer.. along with more tunes i'd love for you to check out!!


Posted by escee on Jun-22-2003 01:15:

phorte, you are allowed to post in other threads


Posted by Phorte on Jun-22-2003 01:18:

quote:
Originally posted by escee
phorte, you are allowed to post in other threads


pwuhahaha, i know man

just indirectly bumping up my tuneages to get it heard hehe


Posted by Ves on Jun-22-2003 02:58:

*waves* welcome!

pretty good track, especially considering it's the second trance track you've ever written. i'm impressed

i'll have to get round to downloading some of your other tracks...
keep up the good work!


Posted by JayKuE on Jun-23-2003 15:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Phorte
thanks for listening, jay. =) im honoured to have inspired you to get into producing.. and will definitely keep you informed on when i finish it off..

how long did you play the piano for? get into producing and then you can write for us lots of uplifting piano trance tunes..

thanks in advance and cant wait to hear what you think of my other tunes!!


just took a listen to ur other tunes dude, and they're pretty funky. like liquid skies and far away, very melodic fairy tale kinda style u have. only qualm were those static noises. didnt like them at all. but i gotta ask, u classify far away as 2 step garage? is that any diff to breaks? *shrug* how long did i play the piano for? mmm. bout 5 years, but being forced to, i pretty much grew up hating the damn thing. my sis tho is completing the whole practical and theory aspects of the 8 year course. so i'm sure i'll be able to get her to sort out the harmonics of tunes for me lol

welcome to the board tho mate. lookin fwd to hearin ur other tunes in the future.

p.s. noticed you have a release on some of these tunes. are u allowed to be distributing thru mp3 if that's the case?


Posted by Phorte on Jun-24-2003 02:06:

quote:
Originally posted by JayKuE
just took a listen to ur other tunes dude, and they're pretty funky. like liquid skies and far away, very melodic fairy tale kinda style u have. only qualm were those static noises. didnt like them at all. but i gotta ask, u classify far away as 2 step garage? is that any diff to breaks? *shrug* how long did i play the piano for? mmm. bout 5 years, but being forced to, i pretty much grew up hating the damn thing. my sis tho is completing the whole practical and theory aspects of the 8 year course. so i'm sure i'll be able to get her to sort out the harmonics of tunes for me lol

welcome to the board tho mate. lookin fwd to hearin ur other tunes in the future.

p.s. noticed you have a release on some of these tunes. are u allowed to be distributing thru mp3 if that's the case?


thanks for listening to the other tunes jay..

i guess the main difference between breaks and uk garage is.. well.. ok its kinda hard laying down exact difference. imagine a lot of breaks as just slowed down drum&bass.. others are just kinda shoot-off from bigbeat.. whereas 2 step garage has a lot more swing/shuffle in the beat, dirtier basslines (can be smooth tho).. erm, and a LOT more syncopation in the percussion. uk garage also isnt necessarily just 2step beats, its also 4 on the floor too.. hard to really put into words. easier to just listen =(

my favourite uk garage producers are sunship, mj cole, bump & flex..

sounds like you at least got a fair bit of foundation in music theory. hope to hear some tunes from ya soon mate and maybe we can even do some collab work with ur sister heading up on the piano melodies =)

wrt to mp3 release.. i actually havent checked with the record label if i can distribute those two released songs as mp3s actually.. distribution of the actual releases was pretty limited really, only within australian with most emphasis being only locally. hmm..... i better check on that..


Posted by arctic on Jun-24-2003 03:32:

Very impressive tune, welcome to the forums


Posted by b1_ on Jun-26-2003 02:49:

Okay, I've had a listen to them all now and here's my humble opinions:

Far Away
You like that tinkling sound don't you. A little too much sprinkling of the magic dust goin' on man! This is good. It's nice; it's original.

Liquid Skies
Love that rumbling bass sound. I'm not really into drum and bass but this was very nice indeed. I love to feel the music and this one shook my desk. Nice energy to this one.

First Class
Better than Whereever You Are I think but still not my kind of Trance (I almost wrote I liked it then didn't *shrugs*; I am picky tho). I don't know, maybe it flows too much for me; no distinct transitions or new sounds. Just didn't do it for me but still nicely done; nice production skills. You're on the right track; I'm guessing there's an element of luck involved when trying to come up with a song that'll be big.

Inverted
Don't think I should comment on this one as it was produced from a set sample pack. Sounds skillfully done.

Chillout in Progress
Sounds good. Not a chillout fan tho so wouldn't have clue.

My advice is to just shelve Wherever You Are; or at least rework it without the girl - really put me off. I'm surprised you put that one forward as your introductory track. I'd guarantee that any successful artist in any field will have stuff they never released and I wouldn't release that one yet.

Overall though nice skills. Shit man; and you did all this with Reason 2.5?! Even the violin plucking sounds in Far Away? Nice one, and keep it up.

Anyone wanting to have a listen I'd go for Liquid Skies first; for me it's the best one.


Posted by Phorte on Jun-26-2003 11:43:

wow.. thanks a LOT for the indepth review!!

you noticed my excessive use of that twinkling sound too, did you? =) i quite like it heheh

thanks for the headsup on keepin "wherever you are" as a shelved thing.. because the main reason why i posted it up on here is to have a straight up opinion from the general trance public whereas everyone else ive shown it to are like ppl who are just gonna say "yea its good.." etc etc

thanks again for the reviews! and yes most were done in reason 2.5.. everything you hear hehe...


Posted by eRRaTiK on Jun-26-2003 13:39:

Re: my introduction for the forum (w/ track download)

quote:
Originally posted by Phorte
Wherever You Are (Instrumental) (11.3 MB)


tune!! vocals are sweet.

listenin to liquid skies atm... and likin' it


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