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Posted by Psionic on Jun-23-2003 06:45:

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Originally posted by Shakka
What have your elected officials done lately?


He wasn't elected by the majority of the American people. Electoral college fucked up.


Posted by St_Andrew on Jun-23-2003 06:51:

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Originally posted by Shakka
What have your elected officials done lately?


Haha good point, but my elected officials isn't the world's most powerfull person so what can they actually do? What you do in the US effect all the world in one way or annother and in Sweden our economy and everthing is very affected by you, therefore I find it pretty tragic you have the president you have... Anyway my officials haven't done annything really bad either


Posted by drgoodvibe on Jun-23-2003 16:35:

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Originally posted by Galapidate
In all honesty, I believe he's conducting all this military action shit just because he knows he wouldn't get support as a president without it (even though lots of people didn't support him in the first place). Other than the ability to "win" a war in Iraq, he has no other admirable qualities about him. He ruined foreign policy, he has no economic or environmental plan, so all he's good for is waging war. (I put "win" like this because it seems more troops are dying after Bush claims major fighting was over).



thats exactly my opinion on Bush as well.. He just seems inept as a real president..


Posted by Viber on Jun-23-2003 16:58:

i dont know what you all have aginst bush if i where an american i would be proud of bush he's trying to meke everything that is wrong in the middle east right i mean clinton was maybe up for peace and all of that but its important to remmember that becuse he didnt try to fix everrything in the middle east like he should have been maybe september 11 2001 ccould be a happy day

even now he's trying to move things in israel maybe he had no sucsses yet but he's trying again and again and thats not such a bed men you can have as the leader of the US


Posted by St_Andrew on Jun-23-2003 17:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Viber
i dont know what you all have aginst bush if i where an american i would be proud of bush he's trying to meke everything that is wrong in the middle east right i mean clinton was maybe up for peace and all of that but its important to remmember that becuse he didnt try to fix everrything in the middle east like he should have been maybe september 11 2001 ccould be a happy day

even now he's trying to move things in israel maybe he had no sucsses yet but he's trying again and again and thats not such a bed men you can have as the leader of the US


I think this is one bad thing with mr bush, he is always doing things that he can earn something on... before sptember 11 he just didn't care a shit about peace in the middle east, but now when he knows that he need to prevent the whitehouse from being bombed by al quida he kisses a lot of asses....


Posted by drgoodvibe on Jun-23-2003 17:06:

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Originally posted by Viber
i dont know what you all have aginst bush if i where an american i would be proud of bush he's trying to meke everything that is wrong in the middle east right i mean clinton was maybe up for peace and all of that but its important to remmember that becuse he didnt try to fix everrything in the middle east like he should have been maybe september 11 2001 ccould be a happy day

even now he's trying to move things in israel maybe he had no sucsses yet but he's trying again and again and thats not such a bed men you can have as the leader of the US


Clinton came the closest in having peace between and Israel and Palestine than any other persident. He never got the chance becuase he was being impeached, and could never get a third term.


Posted by Cyrus King on Jun-23-2003 19:38:

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Originally posted by Viber
i dont know what you all have aginst bush if i where an american i would be proud of bush he's trying to meke everything that is wrong in the middle east right i mean clinton was maybe up for peace and all of that but its important to remmember that becuse he didnt try to fix everrything in the middle east like he should have been maybe september 11 2001 ccould be a happy day

even now he's trying to move things in israel maybe he had no sucsses yet but he's trying again and again and thats not such a bed men you can have as the leader of the US



You are a sad victim of stupidity....just like Bush


Posted by Viber on Jun-23-2003 22:16:

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Originally posted by Cyrus King
You are a sad victim of stupidity....just like Bush



yea me and bush are 2 stupid people i guess this is the reason why he is the president of the United states and you sitting next to your computer

i prefer to be stupid as bush and not smart as you


Posted by Cyrus King on Jun-23-2003 22:35:

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Originally posted by Viber
yea me and bush are 2 stupid people i guess this is the reason why he is the president of the United states and you sitting next to your computer

i prefer to be stupid as bush and not smart as you


Any man at his age who is supposed to be fluent in english would not proclaim "strategery" in their speech.

And Bush stole the office.

And you are also sitting infront of a computer you moron.


Posted by St_Andrew on Jun-23-2003 22:40:

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Originally posted by Viber
yea me and bush are 2 stupid people i guess this is the reason why he is the president of the United states and you sitting next to your computer

i prefer to be stupid as bush and not smart as you


He is defently not the president because he is the smartest one on earth, I guess many off us in here would do a better job then him, he is just president couse the american people don't know a shit about politics and he had a father that once was a president....


Posted by Viber on Jun-23-2003 22:47:

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Originally posted by drgoodvibe
Clinton came the closest in having peace between and Israel and Palestine than any other persident. He never got the chance becuase he was being impeached, and could never get a third term.



1.clinton was a part from the Oslo agreement what was one of israel's biggest mistakes


Posted by occrider on Jun-23-2003 22:53:

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Originally posted by Cyrus King
Any man at his age who is supposed to be fluent in english would not proclaim "strategery" in their speech.

And Bush stole the office.

And you are also sitting infront of a computer you moron.


A. Oratory skills are not necessarily an indicator of intelligence.

B. He didn't steal the office he won it according to the electoral system.

C. However, yes a President should have adequate oratory skills, and yes it appears that his level of intelligence is sub-par for what a President should have. I dunno if many of us here can do a better job though ...


Posted by Shakka on Jun-23-2003 22:54:

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Originally posted by Galapidate
He wasn't elected by the majority of the American people. Electoral college fucked up.


If that's how you can justify your feelings. Sorry they didn't want to change the rules to suit your liking, after the fact. That would have been more criminal--to write a retro-active law to overturn a constitutional amendment which just happens to be in the Bill of Rights probably wouldn't go over too well, hmmm? That would throw our entire society into a cluster-fuck situation. Face it. Gore lost fair-and-square. After the umpteenth Florida recount, he still lost fair-and-square by the rules that governed the contest.

And if Bush people had been in the same camp, you'd better bet your ass they'd feel the same way you do.

My suggestion for you: Sit back, stop your whining, enjoy the ride, and write your local corrupt politician a letter, kindly asking him to sponsor a bill to change the electoral college. Who knows-your town may even elect you to do it. You'll probably get a medal.

Sorry, I'm not flaming, I'm just sick of people giving that excuse.


Posted by Viber on Jun-23-2003 22:55:

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Originally posted by St_Andrew
He is defently not the president because he is the smartest one on earth, I guess many off us in here would do a better job then him, he is just president couse the american people don't know a shit about politics and he had a father that once was a president....



to me a guy who have sucseeded in life is a guy who is smart and bush is the leader of the world and that makes him pretty damm smart

you know what the smartest guy in the world do? he is a single bouncer in a pub in texas so he will be a stupid men according to my theory


Posted by Viber on Jun-23-2003 22:58:

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Originally posted by Cyrus King


And you are also sitting infront of a computer you moron.



yes but i dont diss bush


Posted by Cyrus King on Jun-23-2003 22:58:

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Originally posted by Viber
to me a guy who have sucseeded in life is a guy who is smart and bush is the leader of the world and that makes him pretty damm smart

you know what the smartest guy in the world do? he is a single bouncer in a pub in texas so he will be a stupid men according to my theory


I think you actually might be able to take the prize of MOST IGNORANT TRANCEADDICT from Tiesto14!

Hussein got to power through murder... is he smart?


Posted by occrider on Jun-23-2003 23:00:

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Originally posted by Cyrus King
Hussein got to power through murder... is he smart?


Actually I think he's pretty smart. He was genious in his ability to rise through the ranks of the Baathist party, consolidate his power, and maintain tyrannical control over Iraq for decades. Saddam, Hitler, and Stalin may be monsters but I don't think that I would deny that they were smart men ... in an evil sort of way.


Posted by Shakka on Jun-23-2003 23:01:

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Originally posted by Cyrus King
I think you actually might be able to take the prize of MOST IGNORANT TRANCEADDICT from Tiesto14!

Hussein got to power through murder... is he smart?


Come on, you can do better than that. I saved money by eating my own shit. Am I smart?


Posted by Viber on Jun-23-2003 23:02:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Actually I think he's pretty smart. He was genious in his ability to rise through the ranks of the Baathist party, consolidate his power, and maintain tyrannical control over Iraq for decades. Saddam, Hitler, and Stalin may be monsters but I don't think that I would deny that they were smart men ... in an evil sort of way.


i was just going to post a similar version of your post saved me the effort


Posted by Cyrus King on Jun-23-2003 23:03:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Actually I think he's pretty smart. He was genious in his ability to rise through the ranks of the Baathist party, consolidate his power, and maintain tyrannical control over Iraq for decades. Saddam, Hitler, and Stalin may be monsters but I don't think that I would deny that they were smart men ... in an evil sort of way.


But Hussein is different, he used murder to get him up their and control his society.... anyone that using that method can instill fear into their population thus making them beckon to his knees. His tactics were also inspired from Stalin...so in essence he is using someone elses approach


Posted by Cyrus King on Jun-23-2003 23:05:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Actually I think he's pretty smart. He was genious in his ability to rise through the ranks of the Baathist party, consolidate his power, and maintain tyrannical control over Iraq for decades. Saddam, Hitler, and Stalin may be monsters but I don't think that I would deny that they were smart men ... in an evil sort of way.


But Hussein is different, he used murder to get him up their and control his society.... anyone that using that method can instill fear into their population thus making them beckon to his knees. His tactics were also inspired from Stalin...so in essence he is using someone elses approach

He did everything by force and not brains


Posted by Cyrus King on Jun-23-2003 23:05:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Actually I think he's pretty smart. He was genious in his ability to rise through the ranks of the Baathist party, consolidate his power, and maintain tyrannical control over Iraq for decades. Saddam, Hitler, and Stalin may be monsters but I don't think that I would deny that they were smart men ... in an evil sort of way.


But Hussein is different, he used murder to get him up their and control his society.... anyone that using that method can instill fear into their population thus making them beckon to his knees. His tactics were also inspired from Stalin...so in essence he is using someone elses approach

He did everything by force and not brains


Posted by DR86 on Jun-23-2003 23:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Viber
i dont know what you all have aginst bush if i where an american i would be proud of bush he's trying to meke everything that is wrong in the middle east right i mean clinton was maybe up for peace and all of that but its important to remmember that becuse he didnt try to fix everrything in the middle east like he should have been maybe september 11 2001 ccould be a happy day

even now he's trying to move things in israel maybe he had no sucsses yet but he's trying again and again and thats not such a bed men you can have as the leader of the US


Okay, please tell me your kidding? Please tell me you aren't serious!


Posted by Viber on Jun-23-2003 23:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
But Hussein is different, he used murder to get him up their and control his society.... anyone that using that method can instill fear into their population thus making them beckon to his knees. His tactics were also inspired from Stalin...so in essence he is using someone elses approach

He did everything by force and not brains



not correct stalin and sadam wanted to rule their countries for their own wishes and to apply their idea of a country and society they will want and thats diffrent from what bush want bush think more on his country then himself


Posted by occrider on Jun-23-2003 23:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
But Hussein is different, he used murder to get him up their and control his society.... anyone that using that method can instill fear into their population thus making them beckon to his knees. His tactics were also inspired from Stalin...so in essence he is using someone elses approach

He did everything by force and not brains


Well perhaps his tactics were inspired by Stalin, but I think it may be easier said than done to maintain a coherent command and control system, yet never letting any element of that system consolidate enough power to challenge his own. I guess he would have to train up a significant secret police and conduct systematic purges to diversify his underlings. Yet he couldn't be TOO brutal otherwise the mentality of his underlings would be to kill him before he inevitably killed them. It would be an interesting paper to write, but I would wager to say that there really aren't too many long-lived stupid dictators or that a dictatorship cultivates intelligence (and a maniacal personality as well I'm sure).


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