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Originally posted by dJohn How bout them Spider-Man commercials using Heaven Scent as the BGM?.

I don't know what annoys me more,, Heaven Scent on the spiderman commercials or Urban Train as background music on Entertainment Tonight

I love being an elitist so keep quality trance off MTV thanks.

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u can't just skip through trance and say "yeah thats awesome"

Not really. I can skip through a track and enjoy it too. Of course, progression and layering is key in trance tracks, but eventually you develop the habit of skipping through and finiding the breakds/builds/leads/etc..

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because people in southern cali are to afraid to show who they really are. They would rather fit in, rather than enjoy what they love, and not being afraid of who they are.

I live in San Diego, and it's so fucking true. Try going to school down here...

i really dont care. as long as im enjoying it. its really up for the ppl to like it.

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Originally posted by ASOT100 hehe, i agree. I enjoy being the one all my friends call "the guy who listens to trance"

lol. same here. unfortunately some of them say i am the "techno" guy though

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Originally posted by whitesmoke unfortunately some of them say i am the "techno" guy though

LOL... techno, trance, dance, it's all the same to them.

Tho, i've "educated" quite a few of my friends, one discovering PvD and Mauro Picotto, the other now becoming a fan of AvB. Once they gave it a decent chance, they found they actually really liked it!

Sweet.

There are others who will just never get it. Like those who call all dance "techno"

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Originally posted by dJohn Again, another hip hop thread and again, more nonsense replies.

BRAVO!

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Originally posted by dJohn We listen to music for what it is, don't we? NOT because people like it or not.

most people (in high school and the likes) listen to the music they do because of the pressure of other people around them �the cool complex�, i listened to trance/techno since the beginning of high school, i love it more than anything, whenever someone tries to make fun of me because of it, i just smile at them and completely agree with whatever there saying, "its the same thing over and over again," i say "thats why i like it so much!," then i continue to bob my head and smile. Had i been the slightest bit insecure about my love for this genera of music i would have been the class reject. At least twice every day someone would try to make fun of me because I liked trance, because I walked down the halls bobbing my head without any shame, because I started a school sponsored club called �Club Techno,� because I stood up for something I love, because I DJed at the last assembly of my high school carrier, and because I said FUCK YOU to everyone who doesn�t think trance/techno is �cool�. If you love trance (and chances are with this genera if you listen to it you love it) why do you listen to rap when you�re with your friends�. because � why? because they like rap? They�re friends with you too, aren�t they? they like what you like right? FUCK RAP, LISTEN TO TRANCE listen to something you like, if your ashamed to tell them or ANYONE you like trance and that it is what you listen to, then you should be listening to rap, you scared pasty white child�.


Wow I almost cry writing that

bondor

Re: Will trance ever replace hip-hop?

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Originally posted by 13am I listen to nothing but when I'm by myself, but when I'm with friends, it's all hip hop. Not too many peeps around here are into trance like we are I guess. So anyway, my question is, do you think trance will ever replace rap/hip hop in the US and other commercialized countries?

Why the hell would a music style completely different from Hip Hop replace it??

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Originally posted by Bondor BRAVO! most people (in high school and the likes) listen to the music they do because of the pressure of other people around them �the cool complex�, i listened to trance/techno since the beginning of high school, i love it more than anything, whenever someone tries to make fun of me because of it, i just smile at them and completely agree with whatever there saying, "its the same thing over and over again," i say "thats why i like it so much!," then i continue to bob my head and smile. Had i been the slightest bit insecure about my love for this genera of music i would have been the class reject. At least twice every day someone would try to make fun of me because I liked trance, because I walked down the halls bobbing my head without any shame, because I started a school sponsored club called �Club Techno,� because I stood up for something I love, because I DJed at the last assembly of my high school carrier, and because I said FUCK YOU to everyone who doesn�t think trance/techno is �cool�. If you love trance (and chances are with this genera if you listen to it you love it) why do you listen to rap when you�re with your friends�. because � why? because they like rap? They�re friends with you too, aren�t they? they like what you like right? FUCK RAP, LISTEN TO TRANCE listen to something you like, if your ashamed to tell them or ANYONE you like trance and that it is what you listen to, then you should be listening to rap, you scared pasty white child�. Wow I almost cry writing that bondor

^^Agree completely. You should have faith in your music, of all us tranceaddicts out here, 99% truly do love the music and would take a huge stand to protect it, I sure as hell know I would. I only have 3 other friends that like trance a lot as well, only 1 of which is into it as much as I am. It's a small crowd, but you know what? It is a tighter, more unified community than most other genres of music junkies out there.

Also, hip-hop is a culture wave hitting North America right now, it'll pass just as all other culture themes have passed, we just can't say what it will be. Remember the 60's with the rock and roll, 70's with the disco, 80's with the grunge rock, and then 90's with the boy bands, we'll see something in the future, just who knows? And also, as you can see, hip-hop is aimed at the younger generation, as people mature and get older, many people fall out of the hip-hop craze (as I did) because it isn't exactly the most mature genre/culture out there.

if you want trance to stay good, then you can't let it become mainstream. I said it before and I'll say it again, the last thing you want is trance radio stations. I go to school up in Northern California and in the Bay Area they had at least 2 stations playing "trance" which consisted of that "Nobody Listen to Techno" remix thing and DJ Jean - "The Launch", just to name two. If trance ever replaces hip-hop, then that is probably the day the originality and creativity of it ends. They did have some cool progressive mixes late at night.

Also, to go on the issue about people listening to a certain type of music because it's "cool" or "accepted", you better get used to it. It is not just the musical aspect of it, but the entire US culture and probably mankind. It's probably embedded since we are very little into thinking that being "different" is NOT GOOD. That's why you see kids getting picked on or being made fun of because they're different (i.e. physically deformed or mentally retarded people).

Going back to the topic, I sure wish trance doesn't replace hiphop or pop music for that matter. Sure, I could always listen to something that's mainstream ala "radio music", but I sure enjoy listening to music that I know is unique in my community.

LOL @ the people who think one music genre is better than another. You people need to grow up.

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Originally posted by dJohn Again, another hip hop thread and again, more nonsense replies. Well, I'll just leave you where you are. No need to waste time on this one. This makes absolutley no sense. Just because a song is mainstream doesn't mean it sucks, and just because a genre is mainstream doesn't mean it sucks either. What do you consider mainstream? TV/Radio airtime? Tiesto's remix of Silence got alot of airtime, and has become pretty mainstream if you ask me, but that doesn't take away any quality that that track posesses. How bout them Spider-Man commercials using Heaven Scent as the BGM?.Popularity, as loosely defined as it is? It's safe to say that in many European countries, trance and electronica in general has become the staple genre of music in their respective industries. I read somewhere that electronica has become the biggest music business in the Netherlands and other parts of Europe. That's mainstream if you ask me. But does that mean it sucks? Of course not. As far as that 50 comment you made, sure, he's become mainstream...fuck that, he's pop now, but look at others on this board wearing PvD shirts and what not. If that's not mainstream in it's respective territory, then please tell me what is. Right. We are all unique. Just like everyone else. What kind of credit or personal comfort does it give you to know that you listen to trance, just like millions worldwide and is part of a messageboard, just like thousands of others? Just like how electronica has it's subdivisional groups(househeads, junglists, tranceaddicts )Hip hop has it's sub-culture groups as well...taggers, breakers, DJs, MCs...so just because we like trance, and represent a small group of people doesn't make us any better, or unique. We just happen to like a musical genre that some people don't. It'll be the same whether trance becomes mainstream or not. Trance will never replace hip hop. Hip hop will never replace trance. Nothing will replace hip hop, just like how nothing will replace trance. We listen to music for what it is, don't we? NOT because people like it or not.

ONO ITS THE SAVIOUR OF HIP HOP!

MASTER OF THE GHETTO UNIVERSE RAR!

naw i dun think itll eva happen cuz hip hop is more commercial and trance is more underground and thats the way its gonna stay

Never happen, Hip Hop will always be the biggest imo, an trance will always be underground.

fat chance tho im kinda that it won t well not in the states that is

They're 2 different genres.
Don't mix genres more than they already are..

You can't say it will never happen because it probably will eventually. I can't see it happening in North America any time soon and I hope it never will.

I would say that the majority of people who listen to hip hop do it because it's the cool thing to do but there probably are some who listen to it because they genuinely like the music. If trance were ever to go mainstream I would be upset because I'm sure that there would be those who would accuse me of listening to it because it's cool. That's definitely one thing that would tempt me to switch to a different style of music if the situation ever arose but I don't think I would even if that happened, I would just wait for the fad to pass. I can't see myself giving up trance for anything else.

hmm

it wouldnt matter to much to me if it did except for the fact tht if there was more support for trance in norway the clubs would probably book more djs to come play

Just heard 50 cent - p.i.m.p (armin dub) its amazing...































Just thought i'd make yall laugh. But it might happen one day, rock merged with hip hop, pop merged.. hope trance never does.. and thats why i love it the way it is in the states. Its pretty much underground and i want it to stay like that.


edit: oh i just remember, Oakensold did a track with Ice Cube titled 'Get em up' and it was on his Bunkka album. The track includes house/trance elements and Cube rapping over them... 'GET EM UP NIGGA' he says... Damn, so i guess it merged. I remember playing that track in my car one time, and a friend of mine (rap fan) was like 'yo bro hook me up with that shit' ... ehh i can see it now.. we gonna lose!!!!!!

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then you should be listening to rap, you scared pasty white child�.

I dunno if this comment is aimed at me, or just a sarcastic remark in general, so I'll just leave it as it is. I lvoe hip hop and trance, and that's that.

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ONO ITS THE SAVIOUR OF HIP HOP!

Rrrrarr!! Yes that must be it! I'm a saviour because I express opinions.

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Also, hip-hop is a culture wave hitting North America right now, it'll pass just as all other culture themes have passed, we just can't say what it will be. Remember the 60's with the rock and roll, 70's with the disco, 80's with the grunge rock, and then 90's with the boy bands, we'll see something in the future, just who knows? And also, as you can see, hip-hop is aimed at the younger generation, as people mature and get older, many people fall out of the hip-hop craze (as I did) because it isn't exactly the most mature genre/culture out there.

I completley disagree with you. Hip hop has always been a part of youth culture since it's birth back in the days...nothing represents the individualistc youth culture more than hip hop...listen to some rhymes by Gangstarr, A Tribe Called Quest, Jurassic 5, Dilated Peoples, Nas, Wu Tang, Talib Kweli, Mos Def(These two BTW I think are literally prophets of our time...) and you'll see why. Hip hop isn't a phase thats going through North America...maybe in the pop culture, but then again, that isn't hip hop so that doesn't count...
All I'm trying to say is that issues like this shouldn't even be concerned with...so what if trance replaces hip hop, whats gonna happen? More importantly, WHO FUCKING CARES? Just listen to the music you love.
Oh yeah. And fuck everybody else who thinks what you do isn't "cool".

First off, I think this whole thread has strayed seriously...the question wasn't "Would it be bad if Trance became commercial?" hasn't that already been beaten to death on here?

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Originally posted by Swamper Accept it for what it is.. they each have their own cultural tie-ins with hip-hop FAR exceeding trance in that area... You're not going to see a bunch of teens who think they're thugs walking around listening to pvd (now don't go ranting on me saying I think all ppl who listen to hiphop are thugs...thats not true.. but any music that has lyrical content that helps one vent against society/the state of the world is embraced by rebellious youth (a-la punk/heavy metal/rock of old))

Fantastic point Swamper, this was on my mind immediately when I started reading through the thread as well.

Rap and the mainstream rock in North America is just as concerned with the 'hardcore' image and venting aspect as it is with music.

Trance is *never* going to be able to (or want to for that matter) give off an image like that effectively IMHO, and as a result it's going to remain a more niche thing.

Sure, there's another group that is interested in it because of the 'underground' aspect (aka: the elitist snobs that permeate any music scene with a smaller following) but that comes with the territory.

By and large your teenage audience that's trying to pretend they're in control bad asses are not going to be singing along with the new Armin track or grooving on Sasha's latest. And I'm not saying this as an indictment of all teenagers, as we have many on here, and I'm not saying that Trance is better than anything else, as it's just another musical genre.

I simply think that reality is that given society as it exists in North America (ie: very 'tough guy' image oriented among teens, even adults) that a clearly emotion based music like Trance is going to have a hard time catching on in any huge way.

Not likely. Besides I dont care either way. And its kind of sad how so many people dont want it to become popular so they can "keep it to themselves".

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Originally posted by Swamper Accept it for what it is.. they each have their own cultural tie-ins with hip-hop FAR exceeding trance in that area... You're not going to see a bunch of teens who think they're thugs walking around listening to pvd (now don't go ranting on me saying I think all ppl who listen to hiphop are thugs...thats not true.. but any music that has lyrical content that helps one vent against society/the state of the world is embraced by rebellious youth (a-la punk/heavy metal/rock of old))

^^^^^ So true. I've totally learned to appreciate other people's music, but it seems to me that people just listen to rap and hip-hop because of the attitude that goes with it. They think it makes them special somehow.

I know that doesnt go for everyone, i've got mates who listen to hip-hop, but not because it makes them "down wid da bitches" but because they enjoy the genre.

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Originally posted by dJohn ...so just because we like trance, and represent a small group of people doesn't make us any better, or unique.

Better? No. Unique? Yes. I'm like a lot of other TA's. I do feel that liking trance as much as we do and knowing as much as we do about it makes us unique. There's just as much culture to trance as there is hip-hop, more-so maybe.

There's not another genre out there (that I know of) that has such close bonds between artists and fans as trance does. How often will a member of a rock band recognize a fan from a previous gig? Not often I bet. Yet I know a fair few people who are instantly recognized by top DJ's, just because they met them for 5 minutes on a previous occasion.

In that sense at least, I think TA's (and the producers and DJ's that go with it) are very unique.

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Originally posted by Bondor ...At least twice every day someone would try to make fun of me because I liked trance, because I walked down the halls bobbing my head without any shame...

Again, people are taking the p*ss out of us cos of the way they feel they have to act. Hip-hop is full of messages of rebellion that influences people far to much. If they're happy living their life in constant fear of rejection just because the music they listen to isnt cool or the attitudes they have aren't "badass" enough, leave them to it. So long as you listen to what you like, and don't let other people put you down for it, that's what matters. And hey, at least everyone else here knows exactly what you mean.


Trance isn't just a type of music - it's a religion. The people who follow it are decent people. You could go to a club by yourself and end up with a bunch of new mates 4 hours later. As far as I know, that just doesn't happen with other genres (especially hip-hop) - and thats why I like trance.

Be proud people - TRANCE 4EVA

- Streakfury (an apparent philosopher)

Re: Will trance ever replace hip-hop?

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Originally posted by 13am I listen to nothing but when I'm by myself, but when I'm with friends, it's all hip hop. Not too many peeps around here are into trance like we are I guess. So anyway, my question is, do you think trance will ever replace rap/hip hop in the US and other commercialized countries?

not everyone likes hip hop..just like not everyone likes trance...everyone i hang out with hates trance except me and a friend...(we are both from europe)

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I completley disagree with you. Hip hop has always been a part of youth culture since it's birth back in the days...nothing represents the individualistc youth culture more than hip hop...listen to some rhymes by Gangstarr, A Tribe Called Quest, Jurassic 5, Dilated Peoples, Nas, Wu Tang, Talib Kweli, Mos Def(These two BTW I think are literally prophets of our time...) and you'll see why. Hip hop isn't a phase thats going through North America...maybe in the pop culture, but then again, that isn't hip hop so that doesn't count... All I'm trying to say is that issues like this shouldn't even be concerned with...so what if trance replaces hip hop, whats gonna happen? More importantly, WHO FUCKING CARES? Just listen to the music you love. Oh yeah. And fuck everybody else who thinks what you do isn't "cool".

I agree with you. Hip Hop will always dominate Trance, why? because Not only the black community, but other communities as well can relate to the lyrics that are put out there. Dont get me wrong i think they go overboard plenty of times. but as long as history remains, so will the hip hop culture. [ if you dont know what history im talking about, then you need help ]I cant say i like one genre over any other, but i do listen to trance more than any other, what im trying to say is, dont limit yourself to one type of music. why? because music is what brings all cultures together and without it, there would be no peace. So put all your differences beside and appreciate it for the skill that makes music music.


~P.S~ Just Enjoy Music For What satisfying reason it brings to you, no matter what it is, just enjoy what makes you happy.~P.S~

Its Good to Have Hip Hop

Actually I hope it won't and it know that I won't. See Hip Hop is music for the dumb and the best part about it (the only good thing about it actually)is that it attracts all the dumb ppl around it seperating them from the rest of humanity. So you can easily pin point this morons and stay away from them.

Hip Hop does for Thugz what a big pile of cow dung does for flies, gives them a place to buzz around.

Well on one hand I would say no for a few reasons, one their a different sound, two the provide different effects, three the listeners of each genre are looking for something different from each genre. On the other hand I say yes because thats exactly what it did to me, but as far as just flat out replacing hip hop in this country I would say no. Also who says you have to be a thug to listen to hip hop? Number one its clear you dont have all the facts and are making a bias opinion. Hip hop for one is generally not associated with gangster stuff. Its more devoted to music and rhyming skills. Rap on the other the other hand I will agree, rap offers very little that it is entertaining or meaningful because it focuses more on thugging, jewelry, and women, but to say that the only type of people that listen to either are thugs is total non sense and I could go delve deeper into your categorizing and "generalization" but for the interest of a safe sanctity on this forum I will not, all I am saying is that you do not have the facts and youre statement was obviously bias.

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