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Originally posted by joeh152 mike is push - rather than from push. and i dont think we know that he did sue him - someone on here said he did but that means shit.

I know Mike is Push. What am I supposed to say? "Mike is Push tried to sue them just awhile ago." That's using your head!

I thought most English people knew basic grammatical rules, but I guess there are always exceptions.


The fact of the matter is that Scooter steals melodies without permission constantly.

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Originally posted by Wretched I know Mike is Push. What am I supposed to say? "Mike is Push tried to sue them just awhile ago." That's using your head!

You should say that:
'M.I.K.E did so and so' or 'Push did so and so'
rather than 'mike from push did so and so'

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I thought most English people knew basic grammatical rules, but I guess there are always exceptions.

Well, it would actually seem that I do, and you do not (see below).

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The fact of the matter is that Scooter steals melodies without permission constantly.

Saying Scooter steals melodies would suggest that Scooter is one person - where infact Scooter are three people, so you should say that Scooter steal melodies.

It is very doubtful that Scooter just stole something from M.I.K.E.
A large record company would not allow a track to recieve a commercial release if it was a blatent rip off, unless they had paid royalties.

I would suggest that M.I.K.E was paid royalties - and no doubt made a fuck load as Weekend probably sold millions. Compare this to him releasing tracks on vinyl with only a few thousand pressings at a time - the whole weekend using the Strange World melody was probably very good for him.

Considering that you have probably never bought a vinyl/cd by M.I.K.E, I don't think that you have any right to accuse someone else of ripping him off.

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Originally posted by joeh152 You should say that: 'M.I.K.E did so and so' or 'Push did so and so' rather than 'mike from push did so and so' Well, it would actually seem that I do, but you do not. Saying Scooter steals melodies would suggest that Scooter is one person - where infact Scooter are three people, so you should say that Scooter steal melodies. It is very doubtful that Scooter just stole something from M.I.K.E. A large record company would not allow a track to recieve a commercial release if it was a blatent rip off, unless they had paid royalties. I would suggest that M.I.K.E was paid royalties - and probably made a fuck load as Weekend probably sold millions. Compare this to him releasing tracks on vinyl with only a few thousand pressings at a time - the whole weekend using the Strange World melody was probably very good for him.

A group name is singular. Therefore saying "Scooter steals melodies" is correct. I can say Mike from Push because Mike is in fact from Push. And Push was not paid royalties, which is why he pushed for legal action.

And the fact that I've never purchased a Push vinyl means absolutely nothing. That's like saying "You've never been to America, so you can criticize it." And you and I both know that you have, because the British are more than jealous that my country has flourished so far beyond yours it's laughable. It's time you dropped the whole envy thing and accept the fact that the United States is far more superior than Great Britain.

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Originally posted by Wretched A group name is singular. Therefore saying "Scooter steals melodies" is correct. I can say Mike from Push because Mike is in fact from Push. And Push was not paid royalties, which is why he pushed for legal action.

You know this how? someone told you?

Have you ever even bought a M.I.K.E/Push Vinyl?

You idiot.

I don't need to OWN THE VINYL to know whether or not the melody has been taken. Live sets? MP3s of singles?

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Originally posted by Wretched You idiot. I don't need to OWN THE VINYL to know whether or not the melody has been taken. Live sets? MP3s of singles?

The point is that you have never bought any of his vinyls - and have only downloaded mp3s.

Yet you have the cheek to accuse someone else of ripping him off, who infact gave him thousands in royalties.

Have you even paid a penny to M.I.K.E for the endless quality productions you have pirated off him?

No? then you are the idiot.

go joe... its ya birthday..
we're gonna party like its ya birthday

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Originally posted by Wretched I can say Mike from Push because Mike is in fact from Push.

So, do you say "Ferry Corsten from System F" or "Armin from Armin Van Buuren" also? It sounds.. gay.

On-topic: Scooter made very cool tunes still a few years ago. Sadly though, the newest album contains nothing but covers/ripoffs/whatever. But do as JP, oDrori and GrimReaper say, listen to other songs by them too, not just the singles.

not an old "Scooter" track, but I used to like Ratty - Living on Video...

It's nice to be important, but it's more importance to be nice

Best lyric from Scooter

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Originally posted by joeh152 The point is that you have never bought any of his vinyls - and have only downloaded mp3s. Yet you have the cheek to accuse someone else of ripping him off, who infact gave him thousands in royalties. Have you even paid a penny to M.I.K.E for the endless quality productions you have pirated off him? No? then you are the idiot.

I've purchased CD's feautuing Push's work (credited), so YES I have supported him. You'll soon realize that vinyl is not the only legal medium for sharing music. On top of that, I have about four Push mp3's. I'm sure every single one of your mp3's has an equal vinyl in your collection.

I SERIOUSLY doubt Mike is more concerned with the royalties a Scooter rip-oof might've brought him as opposed to the amount of pride he has in his music and how much of an insult it would have been to have it stolen.

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Originally posted by Nicke So, do you say "Ferry Corsten from System F" or "Armin from Armin Van Buuren" also? It sounds.. gay.

No, you fucking idiot. Notice how Armin van Buuren is a NAME? Push is not a person's name. And yes, I would say Ferry Corsten from System F, whether you like it or not. This is incredibly basic stuff, and it's not my fault you failed to grasp it in the second grade.

I shot the dj...

Hey people!What are you talking about?!If you hate Scooter you don't have to scream about it!Because this is the way you only one think!I am Russian Scooter Posse member, and I really don't like what i heard here!Why are you so angry???Be more simple,and then it is gonna be ok!
My favorite song is "No Fate".
Peace and pleasure my people!

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Originally posted by Wretched And you and I both know that you have, because the British are more than jealous that my country has flourished so far beyond yours it's laughable. It's time you dropped the whole envy thing and accept the fact that the United States is far more superior than Great Britain.

What the fuck does this have to do with Scooter??

Tool.

You have an attitude like this, and yet you don't see why the rest of the world hates you??

Everyone!Listen to JPLoveparade!She is absolutely right!

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Originally posted by Ozzy Everyone!Listen to JPLoveparade! She is absolutely right!

Fucking idiots (to whom it may concern)

Scooter - Zebras Crossing The Street
Scooter - Cosmos
Scooter - Waiting For Spring
Scooter - Unity Without Words Pt.

This here is superclassy trance from 1995, with good quality also... Keep in mind, that at
that time, trance was VERY inmature and Scooter was really on the right track here albeit he
later changed his music to extremely simple, "make a hit in an hour based on shit I've made before"/"Steal some other tune"

You no-knowing tranceaddicts saying Scooter is an idiot/gay/whatever need to have a reality check...
Scooter was very creative in the beginning, and made quite cool music at the time... However, I also think that he might move on nowadays, and stop making this nobrain-music [Posse is cool, especially the TeeBee mix]

The new stuff he is releasing is just ripoffs and copy's of his own music with a twist.
Was it the last "hit" he had, where the synth riff was ripped right from Push?
It's kind of hearing that Push tune being dragged right through the trash, and listen to the result after...
I think it was this Scooter - The Night

Offtopic stuff:

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Originally posted by Wretched And you and I both know that you have, because the British are more than jealous that my country has flourished so far beyond yours it's laughable. It's time you dropped the whole envy thing and accept the fact that the United States is far more superior than Great Britain.

You fucking asshole, what the hell is wrong with you... You can go suck George Bush Jr.'s dick...

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Originally posted by webmeister What the fuck does this have to do with Scooter?? Tool. You have an attitude like this, and yet you don't see why the rest of the world hates you??

Word

To Ozzy:
This is a very touchy issue... Scooter is to some very good memories of a mellow past...
I guess it's emotional

And yes, I got up with the wrong foot today...

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Originally posted by joeh152 You know this how? someone told you?

m.i.k.e. said so himself.. when people reported the strange world ripoff, he was like 'wtf?' he took legal action and was paid then later on.. only to come to the conclusion that at that time scooter had released another track that ripped off 'magic impulse'.. dunno what happened then afterwards, but obviously legal action was again necessary..

i don't care if scooter contributed to the evolution of electronic dance music.. i do not respect them at all, because they deliberately stole 2 m.i.k.e. tracks..

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I've purchased CD's feautuing Push's work (credited), so YES I have supported him. You'll soon realize that vinyl is not the only legal medium for sharing music. On top of that, I have about four Push mp3's. I'm sure every single one of your mp3's has an equal vinyl in your collection.

Actually - with trance I have a similar amount of mp3s to vinyl.
Vinyl isn�t a medium for sharing music, it is a medium for buying music - there is no sharing involved . As far as I�m aware there is no legal fee based music download service with much trance for download.

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I SERIOUSLY doubt Mike is more concerned with the royalties a Scooter rip-oof might've brought him as opposed to the amount of pride he has in his music and how much of an insult it would have been to have it stolen.

I SERIOUSLY (look mom, all caps!) think that M.I.K.E would be very concerned with the royalties from the Scooter use of his melody - after all trance music production isn�t very rewarding financially. For instance, due to all the people like who just download mp3s, L-Vee, one of the most successful producers around was seriously considering stopping producing.

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No, you fucking idiot. Notice how Armin van Buuren is a NAME? Push is not a person's name. And yes, I would say Ferry Corsten from System F, whether you like it or not. This is incredibly basic stuff, and it's not my fault you failed to grasp it in the second grade.

System F is an alias of Ferry Corsten - System F is not a band that Ferry is in. Push is an alias of M.I.K.E - Push is not a band that M.I.K.E is in.

It�s like saying Reginald Dwight from Elton John or Gordon Sumner from Sting. These are alias of these artists, and as such you wouldn�t say it, as Reginald Dwight is Elton John . Likewise Push is an alias - in fact M.I.K.E is also an alias (real name Dirk Dierickx).

So saying M.I.K.E from Push is incredibly stupid. This is blatantly obvious to everyone, no doubt even you. If you had only just admitted you made a simple mistake in your first post rather than get aggressive and abusive to anyone and everyone who dared to point out how incorrect it sounded, then you wouldn't have been made to look so stupid.

Notice how my entire reply featured no swearing - its very easy to post and not be vulgar if you try .

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Originally posted by tor8024 m.i.k.e. said so himself.. when people reported the strange world ripoff, he was like 'wtf?' he took legal action and was paid then later on.. only to come to the conclusion that at that time scooter had released another track that ripped off 'magic impulse'.. dunno what happened then afterwards, but obviously legal action was again necessary.. i don't care if scooter contributed to the evolution of electronic dance music.. i do not respect them at all, because they deliberately stole 2 m.i.k.e. tracks..

Yes I was aware that M.I.K.E had brought legal action. My point is that Wretched (or whatever his name is), came in to this thread and started posting stuff that he read off this very board, that everyone knew already several months back, acting as if he was an insider or something .

Thread locked.

As far as whats more gramaticly correct, the logical thing to have said would be M.I.K.E. aka Push.

As far as saying that Britain is jealous of America, Im not sure what they wuld be jealous of. Your faltering economy? Your 6 MILLION people in jail? Your huge divide between the rich and poor? Your racism? Your sexism? Your homophobia? Your falling dollar? Your poor education system? Your lack of a social healthcare system? Your huge amounts of gun crime? Or maybe your leaders that are using you all to achieve their own personal ends? I don't know about anyone else here but I see little reason Britain would be jealous of the U.S.

Look, you fool. I've proven you wrong on every front. Mike did try to sue Scooter. I have purchased Push's work. Scooter has stolen quite a few melodies without permission.

It's funny how you said Mike would be happy that Scooter's rip-off would earn him money, but then turned around and said that trance artists aren't in the business for financial reward. Please, make up your mind, you only look stupid when you step on your own feet.

And also, I had a great day celebrating our independence from you lymies yesterday.

i like that logical song, or ramp, what ever its called, the one that took the beat from la rissa - i do both jay and jane

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