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glowsticks are for dancing
mask has something to do with inhaling and drugs
baby sucker thing is related to extacy and biting

imo if the goverment regulates MTV all types of crime will lower nationally in a few years under 18 crime that is
also less suicides and early teen pregnencies (SP???????)

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Originally posted by vtec junkie by the way [email protected] part of Pittsburgh are you from?

I live out near Monroeville/Penn Hills.

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Originally posted by vtec junkie there is no such law that states glow sticks arnt aloud in clubs. but on the other hand, clubs are banning them because it does attract un-wanted attention from the law. many big club around the US are being shut down for to much drug activity and the Law does consider glow sticks as drug paraphernalia.

down here in louisiana, the state palace (aka. heaven on earth)got shut down cause of the Rave Act law. when they finally open you could'nt bring glowstix, pasafiers,any kind of lights,vicks, gum , candy,ect. the law enforcment said if they saw any of this stuff that they would shut shop again. all we have now are memories of the old school.

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Originally posted by torontotrance i say ban dummies and rave clothes and whistles in toronto clubs.

And ban the glowsticks aswell, that is all.

glow sticks are not banned by law. it was proposed in the rave act that they be considered pharaphenlia (along with water) but they removed that line realizing that their heads are up their asses. but the rave act got approved and they have been using it to shut down events, regardless of whether there are glowsticks there or not.

my favorite club in new york banned glowsticks a while ago and it had nothing to do with the law. it started cause danny teneglia is a whiny Queen and gets pretty much whatever he wants in that space on his night there (Fridays). but now you cant have them saturdays as well. it is mostly because security uses flashlights to communicate and the glowsticks interfere but also cause it interferes with the lighting scheme. and frankly, i'm glad cause GLOWSTICKS ARE FUCKING ANNOYING!

I think that glow sticks should be banned. This shit is old and fucking stupid. Party like an adults....

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Originally posted by MOSCHINO I think that glow sticks should be banned. This shit is old and fucking stupid. Party like an adults....

im totally with you! fcuk those people who try to ruin the scene by bringing those paraphernalias with them! they ruin the scene!!

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Originally posted by MOSCHINO I think that glow sticks should be banned. This shit is old and fucking stupid. Party like an adults....

werd. just quietly get drunk and pass out in the corner.

I like glowsticks, and I think for anyone to ban them is a violation of one's Freedom of Expression, and this can be easily overturned in court.

Our government spends too much damn time trying to control our lives instead of focusing on real problems. I don't think we're such a free country after all.

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Originally posted by Eugene I like glowsticks, and I think for anyone to ban them is a violation of one's Freedom of Expression, and this can be easily overturned in court. Our government spends too much damn time trying to control our lives instead of focusing on real problems. I don't think we're such a free country after all.

that is BS. if you are entering a privately run establishement you need to follow their rules. if they choose not to allow something for whatever reason you should respect it.

that doesnt necessarily mean that some of their rules are retarded (for expample, DT decided not to allow cellphones on fridays at arc), but if you dont like the rules your option is not to go there anymore.

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Originally posted by butterfly that is BS. if you are entering a privately run establishement you need to follow their rules. if they choose not to allow something for whatever reason you should respect it. that doesnt necessarily mean that some of their rules are retarded (for expample, DT decided not to allow cellphones on fridays at arc), but if you dont like the rules your option is not to go there anymore.

so where can I go if glowsticks are banned nationwide?

Besides, *your* argument is BS.
For example, at Jewish Community Centers (JCC) around the country, it was customary to only let the Jews in, until blacks took this to court and the court agreed that, even though JCC is a private institution, it has no right to discriminate against anyone.

Or when that guy wearing a Peace shirt walked into a mall in NYC and they forced him to leave because he didn't satisfy the rules of that "private" institution -- that was also BS, and the court agreed.

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Originally posted by Eugene so where can I go if glowsticks are banned nationwide? Besides, *your* argument is BS. For example, at Jewish Community Centers (JCC) around the country, it was customary to only let the Jews in, until blacks took this to court and the court agreed that, even though JCC is a private institution, it has no right to discriminate against anyone. Or when that guy wearing a Peace shirt walked into a mall in NYC and they forced him to leave because he didn't satisfy the rules of that "private" institution -- that was also BS, and the court agreed.

they ARENT banned nationwide.

and i am not saying they should deny entrance to you if you dont follow their rules but they reserve the right to take your glowsticks away if you have them when they arent allowed.

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Originally posted by butterfly they ARENT banned nationwide.

If they are banned nationwide (which they aren't), someone should tell wal-mart. I just saw a pack in there yesterday.

Dude...chill with rights and government shit...glowsticks are stupid. Relax and enjoy the music insted of focusing on your glowstick spinning skills. Get fuckin' real.

I'm calm, why do I need to chill?
i was just6 defending freedom of expression

and by the way there are people who like glowsticks

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Originally posted by UWM Great now they are getting worse. First smoking marijuana caused you to shoot your friends, impregnate girls and run over children. Now having a pacifier means you have ecstasy. Maybe your child has a young baby you don't know about!

its not mine i swear ...hehehe

<-----former glowstick person

(Now reformed. At least I was never a "whistle" person...freaks )

as far as freedom of expression is concerned, i think we should be more worried that dancing is already illegal in new york city than the unlikely possibility that glowsticks could be banned.

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Originally posted by butterfly i think we should be more worried that dancing is already illegal in new york city than the unlikely possibility that glowsticks could be banned.

I agree, funny though that this happens in NYC of all places, one would think that some bible-belting southerners would make such laws, yet NYC - of all places - curbs its citizens' freedoms. Already you can't smoke in a bar in NYC. What's next? Illegal raves?!

Woohoo to no smoking in bars. If others should have the freedom to blow noxious/poisonous fumes in my face then I should have the freedom to beat them with a baseball bat. Or open specific bars and places to smoke ... just keep it out of public domain.

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Originally posted by occrider Woohoo to no smoking in bars. If others should have the freedom to blow noxious/poisonous fumes in my face then I should have the freedom to beat them with a baseball bat. Or open specific bars and places to smoke ... just keep it out of public domain.

don't pretend you don't know that bars and smoking go hand-in-hand, bars are all about drinking, socializing, and smoking. It's always been this way historically and always will be. If you told me there should be "non-smoking bars" for people like yourself I could agree with you, because obviously non-smoking bar attendees are in the minority. But 99% of people who go to bars either fully expect a "smoky" atmosphere or smoke themselves.

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Originally posted by Eugene don't pretend you don't know that bars and smoking go hand-in-hand, bars are all about drinking, socializing, and smoking. It's always been this way historically and always will be. If you told me there should be "non-smoking bars" for people like yourself I could agree with you, because obviously non-smoking bar attendees are in the minority. But 99% of people who go to bars either fully expect a "smoky" atmosphere or smoke themselves.

Well I agree that bars are a little extreme. However, I'm all about no smoking in public places. Would you change your opinion however if the majority of bar goers did not smoke and would want smokeless atmospheres?

cali pulled off the no smoking thing sucessfully. i kinda like it in new york. i mean it is ironic that i have unquite smoking sionce the ban went into effect, but it is good. cause you dont come home reeking and it has actually craeted these little social areas where you can actually hear what ppl are saying then you go back inside. winter is going to suck though. i think i'll have to quit again.

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Originally posted by occrider Well I agree that bars are a little extreme. However, I'm all about no smoking in public places. Would you change your opinion however if the majority of bar goers did not smoke and would want smokeless atmospheres?

I have yet to see a single nightclub or "adult" ( ) establishment where that would be the case.

In principle yeah, but c'mon, that ashtray atmosphere is part of the experience
And I smoke occasionally because I like how it's part of the atmosphere and also it's relaxing for me in social situations.

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Originally posted by Eugene I have yet to see a single nightclub or "adult" ( ) establishment where that would be the case.

you would be surprised with how many people are pleased with being smoke free in new york.

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