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What i've heard of hardstyle so far has been crap, simple sounds used in all of the tracks & uninspiring melodys.

Can anyone name an "amazing" hardstyle track or set that doesnt just sound like random sounds n synths? One offender is "blutonium boy - make it loud (dj neo hardstyle remix)" - the worst tune iv heard for ages, there was sumat called the Shark Theme by 'The Hardstylist' that was laughable too.

There any tunes that would be good enough 2 convert somebody from thinking its all just random noise like iv heard so far?

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Originally posted by Ozzie Can anyone name an "amazing" hardstyle track or set that doesnt just sound like random sounds n synths?

its the same with everything mate, you cant just go into a style expecting to liek it if your not excited by the elements.

one perfect example of hardstyle brilliance zenith dj - illusions (hard floor mix) .... nothing but pure driving ruff beats and excellently made too.

hardstyle is a newer more user friendly spawn of gabba, which is a very aquired taste.

and again, as with all styles, theres the good shit and the bad shit, the good shit is usually a bit more underground and less accessable. Ask any techno purist on theyre preference to techno, and theyll say underground all the way, not that picotto crap. its all about how much into the sound you are. there are a lot of crap hardstyle tracks out there that some guy threw together in his bedroom cos its an easy style to produce, BUT that seperates the men form the boys, there are your true hardstylers out there, that know exactly what the fuck theyre doing. dont judge it till you find them

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Originally posted by [N]�k|��[Z] its the same with everything mate, you cant just go into a style expecting to liek it if your not excited by the elements. one perfect example of hardstyle brilliance zenith dj - illusions (hard floor mix) .... nothing but pure driving ruff beats and excellently made too. hardstyle is a newer more user friendly spawn of gabba, which is a very aquired taste. and again, as with all styles, theres the good shit and the bad shit, the good shit is usually a bit more underground and less accessable. Ask any techno purist on theyre preference to techno, and theyll say underground all the way, not that picotto crap. its all about how much into the sound you are. there are a lot of crap hardstyle tracks out there that some guy threw together in his bedroom cos its an easy style to produce, BUT that seperates the men form the boys, there are your true hardstylers out there, that know exactly what the fuck theyre doing. dont judge it till you find them

exactly

Not a fan of hardstyle, but I must admit I LOVED hearing a couple live sets from Shockers. One reason why I don't like hardstyle is due to the cheesy synths, however Shockers are pure class and bring out some sick sick tunes

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Originally posted by SugarShack Good Hardstyle Luna Chiren Dj isaac Ard & Jorn Blutonium Boy Jimmy the sound Dj Duro Dj Zany Dana Technoboy Dhhd Brain ovulation Hardstyle God Super Marco May Tamok Enjoy

..=)

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Originally posted by [N]�k|��[Z] speedwave - hear the drummer get wicked (both mixes)

<------hear THIS drummer get wicked.

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Originally posted by DrummeRaver86 <------hear THIS drummer get wicked.

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Originally posted by Galapidate

I downloaded Dana @ Innercity 12-22-02. What an awesome set!

Hardstyle gives me nightmares.

*bumps ket, pisses pants in the corner*

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Originally posted by UWM Hardstyle gives me nightmares. *bumps ket, pisses pants in the corner*

rob mate, if i meet you when you come to englandcestershire, ill give you a tape you should find interesting

sorry but can someone just explain the basic outline of hardstyle. ie Where it came from and where it falls in relation to ht, hh, acid and nrg?

I know a little bit history of hardstyle,but my english isn't good,so i hope u can unstand i say...

At late 90s' when german hard trance popular around the world,(especially "Tracid traxx " lable lead from Kai tarcid") combine with a slow Techno from Italy, that's the early harstyle come from(djsj Vortex, Technoboy,supermarco may..etc) However, the hardstyle combine with more hardcore sound from holland ,and that's new hardstyle...



(ps: there r still many Italy techno djs dun adimit hardstyle music i,and they think hardstyle is still kinda Techno,so that's why great hardstyle dj " technoboy " not "hardstyleboy )

isaac sux hard

Lady Dana

I was at Sensation Black, but...naah...a bit disapointet with the music...Rodriguez, De Heij, Ishino and Tracid were all great, but Luna, Dana and specially Nightraver...that was to much for me...I like some hardstyle (Tracid, Hennes & Cold, DJ Isaac etc) but not when it gets to hardcore influenced...

but...different people has different tastes...

Last year Tiesto was number 1 DJ in the world but in The Netherlands he was second right behind DANA!!

It was:
1 Dana 35% of the votes
2 Tiesto 28% of the votes

the thing you need to understand is, tiesto was rated number one in the world, pretty much because of the fact he was a big name at the time, as im sure 99.9% of ppl on this board have seen the absolute outrage because of him being picked number 1, because they dont fewel he is good enough, but to a lesser educated crowd i.e. the radio market as opposed to the club market, the likes of tiesto that is putting out a lot, will seem like a great pioneer of the sound, this is exactly the same with Dana, she is a very accessable name in hardstyle, with not too rough a cut to be appreciated by more ppl than lets say DHHD which induce rougher sounds hard basslines and kicks, which renders theyre style as slightly more underground and less enjoyable to most people.

as with technoboy, i feel his career on the hardstyle circuit went great, but going on how you like your hardstyle your opinions will vary. I for example, hate the italian cheesey crap hardstyle which the likes technoboy produce, along with all the 'wobbley hardstyle' that emerges from italy.

as i have said many times before, hardstyle is a sort of commercialised version of gabba/nu-skool gabba, which emerged from the bowels of hollands underground where it lived for many many years, but the italians took this added theyre own herbs and flavourings, and came up with theyre rendition of hardstyle, slightly after this birth, came the dutch's variation of hardstyle.. keeping true to the gabba style, industrious sounds and tweeks along with your standard hars kicks on a slower scale than before = dutch hardstyle.

in response to ghost face. hardstyle has no ties with hard trance or hard house. although the latest hardstyle offering have a twang of the hard trance vibe, this is not a spawn of hard trance, this is purely a driving feature added to the genre of recent times, trance was not the influence of hardstyle in wany wayshape or form, same goes for hard house. hard house is a fun form of music that mostly contains an element of funk, which hardstyle does not contain. although in holland, hardstyle is sumtimes referred to as hardhouse, but i am completly against this, as there is no justification for it.
also fairly new to the market, is techno-hardtsyle, which basically is exactly what it says on the tin, hardstyle with techno influences, all the mental loops and sounds from techno with a hardstyle twist, examples of this are tracks by DHHD, keeping it rough raw and anti cheese

i hope this settled a few things, cos my fucking wrists hurt now : lol

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Originally posted by New Wave This is a music discussion forum, not a trashcan forum. Hardstyle sucks bigtime.....easy made music and nothing is so basic like Hardstyle.......hopeless.....2 sounds combined and thats it........

2 words for you, get stuffed. just cause u dont like a form of music doesnt mean it cant be posted on TA, so screw ya!....

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Originally posted by New Wave This is a music discussion forum, not a trashcan forum. Hardstyle sucks bigtime.....easy made music and nothing is so basic like Hardstyle.......hopeless.....2 sounds combined and thats it........

You complete fuckwit

In some parts I agree with you on the hardstyle thing, but I dont agree that most of the stuff that comes out of Italy is utter cheese, sure there is always an amount but there is some real quality being produced in Italy at the moment, I have to mention Smashing Guys again, Gerardo Roschini really is a superb producer in the genre, and I also agree that Lady Dana rules, such a lovely woman, she is beautiful in an average looking sort of way, I dunno how to word it, she seems to be one of those women that may not look like Heidi Klum beautiful but is still very nice, argh dunno if you know what I mean, but she is very down to earth too, imho she deserves 100% to beat Tiesto the the #1 DJ vote in Holland, its a shame the UK vote is such bullshit.....I really hope Armin knocks Tiesto off his perch, I like Tiesto's productions but he just comes across as a bit of an arsehole, also he slagged off gabber before, so he's in my bad books, but Armin has time for everyone and he appreciates people too, more than Tiesto does I think.

In terms of hardstyle recommendations I have a fair few, if you look at the "latest vinyls" thread I bought over 60 vinyls, 50+ of which were hardstyle, I am really getting into this genre a lot more now.

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Originally posted by SugarShack You complete fuckwit

lol, agreed =)

Haha hardtsyle is probably the most mainstream music out there

I didn't know we had some many no dutch 'BeuQers' in this forum Its a shame really, I seriously hope Hardstyle will never make it to Uk/gatecrasher, since it has kinda wrecked the scene here

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Originally posted by [N]�k|��[Z] hardstyle has no ties with hard trance or hard house. although the latest hardstyle offering have a twang of the hard trance vibe, this is not a spawn of hard trance, this is purely a driving feature added to the genre of recent times, trance was not the influence of hardstyle in wany wayshape or form,

Agree with most of what you said except this bit... I tend to consider Hardstyle to be pretty much a sub-genre of Hardtrance (this is an argument that's gone on to no end on some forums). If you listen to the first Trance Generators releases on Future Sound Corporation from a couple of years ago you can easily hear the beginnings of hardstyle. Add to that the fact that a vast majority of Hardstyle releases use the exact bass sound as the one Hennes & Cold first used in "Second Trip", a Hardtrance classic, and I think you've got a pretty strong case for Hardstyle at the very least being influenced by Hardtrance from the very beginning...

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Originally posted by xls Agree with most of what you said except this bit... I tend to consider Hardstyle to be pretty much a sub-genre of Hardtrance (this is an argument that's gone on to no end on some forums). If you listen to the first Trance Generators releases on Future Sound Corporation from a couple of years ago you can easily hear the beginnings of hardstyle. Add to that the fact that a vast majority of Hardstyle releases use the exact bass sound as the one Hennes & Cold first used in "Second Trip", a Hardtrance classic, and I think you've got a pretty strong case for Hardstyle at the very least being influenced by Hardtrance from the very beginning...

I agree with you mate, look at Suntec Records, they are pretty split between Hardstyle and Hard Trance and a lot of dj's that spin hardstyle do spin the odd bit of hard trance too, I notice a similarity between stuff on Suntec, same goes with Anthem Records.... Schwarzende is a good example, you could call his work either.

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