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Originally posted by JohnSmith no, mine is actually one Orbit, must be a subsidiary of Hooj or something, because the record looks like a hooj choons promo. mine has all the original, both remixes, AND under the red sea, all on one vinyl: http://www.discogs.com/info/queue/d...bfab566226d4b36

ya, this was a repress, i looked for this one first, with no luck though

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Originally posted by JohnSmith mine has all the original, both remixes, AND under the red sea, all on one vinyl: http://www.discogs.com/info/queue/d...bfab566226d4b36

Nice one m8, that's the one I've been after for awhile now. Saw it on eBay a little while ago but went for $30.

I have the one with the '99 Mix and Signum mix. '99 Mix is better than the Signum, but still not as good as the Original.

Paid �2.99 for it from HMV. Like a lot of tunes it's available everywhere when it first comes out, then becomes hard to find later.

HOOJ054
A Angel (8:59)
B Gamemaster (8:00)

cd owns that vinyl...

Angel Edit
Gamemaster Edit
Angel
Gamemaster
Angel (Four Four Mix)
My Soul


�2.99 HMV ;]

any even tho its from 1997, its as good as new as its a cd. I play it all the time and that why i wouldnt pay �30+ for a vinyl when i can pay �1 for a CD in hooj's sale at the moment.

I must mention that both tiesto and pvd at amnesia 2 weeks ago both used more cds than vinyl, especially tiesto, he was in his cd wallet 2/3 tracks.

times are changing.. and cd players are starting to spin (i.e. hte full size jog wheel on the latest denon player actualy spins at 33rpm and respons identically like a vinyl would)

lets not start a debate here about cd vs vinyl, but i really dont see the point of buying a so called 'rare' track for 'x' amount of money in a delapadated format when you can buy it for �1 brand new on CD. just my 2 cents...

CD mixers with auto-beat matching - such skill involved in mixing!

Sounds like a blast.

You already answered your own question.

The vinyl I paid �3 for is worth 10 times that now.

The CD you bought is now worth a third of what it was.

Simple fact is that despite CDs being better value for money on the pound per track scale, long term investment is nothing.

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Originally posted by Project T greece 2000 was re-released on some shitty label i cant remember the name of, but it's around and about

The label you're looking for is Massive Drive Recordings, but I wouldn't call it shitty. They've been releasing all the Three Drives stuff (Carrera 2, Sunset on Ibiza, etc).

On top of that, when's the last time you owned a rare cd?

With the prevalent bootlegging in today's society, vinyl sales are a major component in keeping the genre alive. If CD's, and all the illegalities that go along with them, overtake vinyl as the mixing medium of choice, it could have some very negative repercussions for the trance genre.

Plus, vinyls sound better.

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Originally posted by Wretched CD mixers with auto-beat matching - such skill involved in mixing! Sounds like a blast.

Never seen an autobeat matching CD mixers. For all i know, most places use CDj100s or 1000s. I know the cdj100's dont have auto beat match function.

Heres my point.

If you cant find a record you are looking for on vinyl anywhere, the next best solution is CDR So stop bashing CD technology just because it doesnt look "cool" to you, as the crowd doesnt give a shit what format you use.

Who said anything about vinyl looking cooler than CD? I know I didn't.

Vinyl sounds better.

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Originally posted by Wretched Who said anything about vinyl looking cooler than CD? I know I didn't. Vinyl sounds better.

Sounds better? I dont think you can hear a audible difference. If anything, i think CD sounds better because it doesnt have the crackles like in some vinyls. I dont want to argue with you about this, since i do think vinyl is better because you can see the loud and quiet parts, long long the record is, and its easier to manipulate. If you have money to pay >$30 for one vinyl go for it, id much rather buy the CD that costs less

As stated before let's not turn this into a fucking debate, let's stick to the topic.

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Originally posted by Nautica You already answered your own question. The vinyl I paid �3 for is worth 10 times that now. The CD you bought is now worth a third of what it was. Simple fact is that despite CDs being better value for money on the pound per track scale, long term investment is nothing.

wrong, distant voices was only pressed to 100 copie son cd unlike the 250 on vinyl, hence why the cd gets more om ebay.

theres also 100 copies of rapture armin mix on cd,
100 copies of lsg netherworld on cd

and im sur ehtere others, so there are rare cds.

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Originally posted by Dmatrox Never seen an autobeat matching CD mixers. For all i know, most places use CDj100s or 1000s. I know the cdj100's dont have auto beat match function. Heres my point. If you cant find a record you are looking for on vinyl anywhere, the next best solution is CDR So stop bashing CD technology just because it doesnt look "cool" to you, as the crowd doesnt give a shit what format you use.

good point. as i said b4, tiesto and pvd use cds constantly in their sets and everyone seems to like them on the whole, adn you cant tell what thyre using in their sets - THATS how much sound quality difference is.

Thanks for not making this into a debate as promised, nell.

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Originally posted by Nell wrong, distant voices was only pressed to 100 copie son cd unlike the 250 on vinyl, hence why the cd gets more om ebay. theres also 100 copies of rapture armin mix on cd, 100 copies of lsg netherworld on cd and im sur ehtere others, so there are rare cds.

But here's the kicker: I can easily pick up a bootleg of ANY of those cd's with no loss of quality whatsoever. Try doing that with a vinyl.

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Originally posted by Nautica You already answered your own question. The vinyl I paid �3 for is worth 10 times that now. The CD you bought is now worth a third of what it was. Simple fact is that despite CDs being better value for money on the pound per track scale, long term investment is nothing.

the long term investment of a cd is that is doesnt wear down, unless you scratch it, and even at that, you can still fix it, a scratched vinyl, you might as well use a frisbee, although i myself like to collect vinyl and would rather have it over the cd copy, but having both is good too

also, let us not turn this into a vinyl vs cd thread. if you think vinyl sounds better than cd, then that is your own preference. just because you dj with cds, doesnt mean you are not a real dj. there are bpm counters on a lot fo mixers these days, so you could say what you wish, soemone wiht vinyls can use the bpm counter and do the same thing as the cdjs with the bpm counter, so ya whatever

I love how everyone begins their post with a CD vs Vinyl point then ends their post saying lets not turn this into a debate.

Give it up already, this is about Gamemaster!

Well, I smartly bought CD1 and CD2 of gamemaster on Hooj Choons when they came out.
Mixes:-
Original
Signum remix
Signum edit
Lost Tribes '99 mix
Under the red sea <---------- B side

As for their rarity on CD, I have no idea. All I know is that I have never seen them again and I only know one other person who has both. But it cant be that rare because it was an official release.
The vinyl was obviously officially released too, and I see no reason why the vinyl and CD versions hould not be worth the same, its the same tune.

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Originally posted by Omegasox I love how everyone begins their post with a CD vs Vinyl point then ends their post saying lets not turn this into a debate.

lol

Ok i was wondering is it really true that the Distant Voices Ep on vinyl was only limited to 250 copies???

I also got the "promotional copy" version and not the one with HOOJ on the front....is that more rarer?

But i'm really happy nonetheless to have this, but was hoping to get the other version of Gamemaster...is this the more rare version?

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