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Posted by *HaRRy* on Jul-22-2003 08:09:

i see a law suit coming on

Posted by capricorn15 on Jul-22-2003 09:35:

Re: Reply to All

quote:
Originally posted by DJTiesto4Ever
Why is it that so many people here seek to destroy others opinions and efforts in the trance scene? Is it not a good thing to be spreading the beautiful music we all love? I seek only to spread the music to people who would go a lifetime without ever hearing such Andain - Beautiful Things. Now that's a shame.

I greatly appreciate all your input as many of these suggestions I would have never known about. I try to follow trance i much as i can, but there's always too much to keep up with. Suggestions of where i might be able to get some of these great sets besides tranceaddict would be nice to know

Thanks again for all your replies.

hey. i agree that spreading trance is great, but you are going about it the wrong way. yo dont copy a cd that you bought, you probably didnt buy it baesd on what you are saying, but i could be wrong. y not burn them a few good lives sets or even better, through a party at your house, and play all the cds you like. many begin to like tranc eafter going to parties, not gettinga cd.

quote:
Originally posted by wookieslut
quit trying to act like you know everything, senior tranceaddict. I agree that nyana is a hard cd to enjoy, but the fact that he really enjoys it and has spent alot of time listening to it makes his opinions seem pretty worthy to me. As the rush comes is as trancey as you can get, andain -beautiful things is a very poppy/melodic song that can very well be distinguished as a form of trance. in my opinion, andain is its own genre of alternative electronica/progressive. but who cares about the initial genre of the songs if hes trying to GET people into trance. you have to start somewhere and i agree that cd has some pretty "commercialish" songs that will make people want to download more tiesto compilations and start finding themselves liking trance... its all about what you like, not about how much you know.

dont generalize about senior tranceaddict and what not. read this post i made in the other thread (emul8tor), and remember, it is about what you like and think is good, not someone else. although the whole post doesnt pertain to what music you like, it brings up that point in there

quote:
Originally posted by capricorn15
so anyone who has had a mainstream song is a sell out? is that it. i remember sasha expander being on the radio here in the us, so he must have sold out. john digweed must have sold out for being in a movie and making a soundtrack. if they produce good music, i dont see the problem with it being in movies, in fact it is better for us. what do all you greedy people who say they sell out dont want new people to start listening to trance. lots of people on here complain about people calling trance (electronica) shit. and if it is in a movie and brings a bigger crowd, that should make you happier, as less people would be calling it shit. what i say is who cares who makes it, as long as you like it. personally i dont think any music is shit. it is all a matter of preference, that is why i hate when anyone calls any music shit. all forms of music is art, and a lot of poeple calling other music shit, probably cant produce anything. if you dont like it, no need to call it shit, just say you dont prefer or dont like that music. where do you think these wars start from, bad music, no. bad fans is what it is.

Posted by annon185 on Jul-22-2003 15:38:

copying 100 cds of nyana =

Posted by DJTiesto4Ever on Jul-22-2003 16:41:

what would YOU give out?

A lawsuit? Please...

I agree that I should throw parties and let people see trance in many different ways. This I have done as well. I was just trying to get the feel of what the tranceaddict scene would think of someone distributing the beats. Unfortunetly, appears to be a negative harsh critism. I just wish it was more positive towards which sets and cds other people like instead of the obvious disrespect many portray. Anyway, back to the topic...if YOU were to give out 100 cds of anything to people who didn't really listend to trance what would YOU give?

Keep in mind it should be recent and have a good track selection for people who haven't really listen to trance much.

Posted by skip on Jul-23-2003 08:21:

Re: what would YOU give out?

quote:
Originally posted by DJTiesto4Ever distributing the beats.

omg! this is not hiphop you know!?!?!

personally i think your idea isn't that good. but if you are determined to hand out 100 CDs then IMO you should hand out some live set or something, not a CD that is available in the stores!

Posted by sweeneySLO on Jul-29-2003 04:55:

i think you misunderstand the man

i think everyone misunderstands what this guy is trying to do. he is not giving nyana out to people who just dont want to spend money on it. contrary to what many of you may beleive, a lot of people out there have no idea what trance is. they have heard one or two 'techno' tracks on the radio and the only name that they associate with trance is paul oakenfold. all they think it is is a boring beat with a bunch of annoying sirens in the background, and i think these are the people that djtiesto4ever is giving nyana to.

for one, it is hardly hurting my man tiesto at all because none of these people are about to even look in the dance section of their local record (cd) store for a new cd. if anything, nyana will teach them that trance is more than just sirens and boring beats and they might actually buy nyana so that they can hear disk one and even continue to buy other trance cds. i have opened up many a 'techno' hater with tiesto cds and seen them purchase newer ones. even though he might have given out one tiesto cd for free, he might be effectively selling every new one that tijs produces from here out.

as far as his pick of cds, nyana is a great cd to expose people to trance. and dont give me that, o its not trance crap, i couldnt distinguish between the different varietals of electronic music until i had been listening for quite some time. as far as the new nyana listeners are concerned, it is trance. back to cd choice, i think it is important that you grab someone with a cd that they might see in the store because it will be something that they recognize in an otherwise unfamiliar terrain. and yeah, he could have picked isos3, 2, 1, or boundaries of imagination, they are all very good and would have done nicely. however, nyana is the most recent amoung them and has vocals that are very crucial at converting the rock, rap, etc. crowd.

it is true that the journey of nyana is not my favorite, but once again, i think you are giving the people that he is distributing nyana to way too much credit. rare is the person who will listen to their first trance cd and pick up on its incredible journey, i mean, they will probably just have it on in the car or something and listen to it one or two tracks at a time. i think the track selection is more important for an intro-to-trance cd.

anyway, there are my two cents...well, there are my two dollars

and goodluck to djtiesto4ever in his quest to expose to trance those that have no idea what it really is!

Posted by DJTiesto4Ever on Jul-29-2003 06:53:

WORD

Word Sweeney...i'm glad every now and then someone understands me. I encourange a rebutal from the negative masses that have so pursed my demise.

Posted by chris_norris on Jul-29-2003 16:32:

I'm not going to comment on the musical contents of Nyana, I haven't heard and I'm not planning too, Tiesto isn't my cup of tea. However, the reason why some people are getting at you might be down to copywrite issues. I mean your not burning 3 or 4 CD's but 100. It's a nice thought but don't you think it's a bit silly? Secondly, if you want to take Tiesto and trance to a wider audience, why not download one of his sets and burn that to CD, as has already been mentioned. Ask some of the Tiesto freaks around here what they think is his best set, decide and burn that. That way theres less copywrite issues and won't the live set flow a little better than Nyana?

Posted by rock_roll18 on Jul-29-2003 16:36:

seen too many better cd's
Waste of cd-r's

Posted by DJTiesto4Ever on Jul-29-2003 19:16:

Hey Norris

Even though you're a tranceaddict you still can't read i guess. Read sweeney's reply, listen to nyana and then try to post a reply.

Posted by Ozzie on Jul-29-2003 19:30:

Re: Hey Norris

Posted by sweeneySLO on Jul-29-2003 20:33:

spirit

quote:
Originally posted by Ozzie

there are still copyright issues no matter what you're argument is.

although technically you are right. i think that the reason for these laws are to keep artists from loosing sales to people copying and distributing cds to everyone that they know. with this in mind, i do not feel that testo4ever broke the spirit of the law, even if the word of it was. tijs is not loosing any sales to tiesto4ever because the people he is distributing to would never buy a tiesto cd, or any other trance/dance/electronica cd for that matter. so yes, technically, copywrite laws may be broken, but the spirit of the law is not.

on the other hand, there are circumstances where the word of the law can be preserved even if the spirit of the law is broken (like loopholes and sh*t so that those knowledgeable of the law can break it and still be totally legal). but that is a problem i have with laws, and a different thread entirely.

Posted by chris_norris on Jul-29-2003 20:50:

Re: Hey Norris

quote:
Originally posted by DJTiesto4Ever
Even though you're a tranceaddict you still can't read i guess. Read sweeney's reply, listen to nyana and then try to post a reply.

What's supposed to mean? What part of "I'm not going to comment on the musical contents of Nyana" can you not read? I'm facts on copywrite issues and my opinion on the differences between a mix cd and a live set....once again, what part of that is unclear? Why start a thread asking people's opinion if you aren't prepared to listen to what they have to say. I made a suggestion in that you substitute the mix cd format for a live set, simple.

I read what Sweeny posted the first time round and this is still my reply.

Posted by chris_norris on Jul-29-2003 20:58:

Re: Re: Hey Norris

quote:
Originally posted by chris_norris
What's supposed to mean? What part of "I'm not going to comment on the musical contents of Nyana" can you not read? I'm expressing facts on copywrite issues and my opinion on the differences between a mix cd and a live set....once again, what part of that is unclear? Why start a thread asking people's opinion if you aren't prepared to listen to what they have to say. I made a suggestion in that you substitute the mix cd format for a live set, simple.

I read what Sweeny posted the first time round and this is still my reply.

Posted by DJTiesto4Ever on Jul-29-2003 21:25:

3 times?

Thanks for posting your reply THREE times. I think you miss understood me. First, i apreciate your reply regarding using a live set and is duely noted. You asked me why i started a thread and didn't read/listen. I'm more just shocked at the extremely negative feedback i've been getting and expecting more of a postive atmosphere regarding the distrubtion of trance. What's your fav cd right now?

Posted by sweeneySLO on Jul-29-2003 21:28:

MIKE lover?

hey norris, this is not meant to be an attack on you, i totally accept your opinions, it is ok not to like tiesto. i was just wondering...how do you like MIKE and not tiesto?! tijs spins tons of MIKE, and i love him for it because i have loved pretty much every MIKE track that i have heard, from push to solar factor. anyway, i love MIKE, love tiesto, and will accept you for not liking tiesto, i was just curious

wow i said love a lot...whatever

Posted by chris_norris on Jul-29-2003 23:00:

Err...sorry about that, was only supposed to post that once, god knows how it posted three times. Anyway, sorry if it seemed a little harsh, just trying to get my point across which a few people have made and you didnt seem to understand. If you read what I originally wrote, I said I thought it was a good idea, just not in the way you were going about it...but hey, everyone has an opinion, if you think handing Nyana out to all those people then thats alright, I'd just do it differently. It wasnt an attack, but you must at least understand why you got some negative comments.

Posted by Dj onE on Jul-29-2003 23:35:

NOOOO!!!...not Nyana!...a much better cd would be Politics of Dancing Mixed by Paul Van Dyk!!!

.dJonE.

Posted by Lakerfan36 on Jul-30-2003 07:56:

magik 6

Posted by Luke Terry on Jul-30-2003 10:00:

DJTiesto4Ever, I am co-manager of Nettwerk, the label that released the Nyana 2xCD compilation. We have tracked you IP and got your address off your ISP for copyright infringement. If you do intend to take this action, we will force compensation from you of the CD value $20, plus $2,000 for the copies, and a furthur $5,000 for possible piracy through the distribution you have created. We will also sue you for damages to the label and expect to pay our costs which we would assume to be in excess of $10,000.

Posted by blank on Jul-30-2003 10:23:

Ohh now DJTiesto4Ever is in real trouble.

Posted by King_Mack on Jul-30-2003 14:00:

riight

its prolly some joker thats trying to pull a prank

Posted by DJTiesto4Ever on Aug-01-2003 22:39:

Project T

Hey Project T, Fuck off. Anyway, politics of dancing is awesome. Good rec. Magik 6...amazing. Anything new tho? Like, released within the last 3-6 months?

Posted by Luke Terry on Aug-02-2003 00:52:

Re: Project T

quote:
Originally posted by DJTiesto4Ever
Hey Project T, Fuck off. Anyway, politics of dancing is awesome. Good rec. Magik 6...amazing. Anything new tho? Like, released within the last 3-6 months?

welcome to the land of suspension

Posted by Elmo-On-XTC on Aug-02-2003 01:01:

my suggestion would be head over to the amateur dj promotion forum and find a mix you really like a distribute that.

that way you're not distributing music that is in stores, you're helping a fellow TA get heard and you still have some great tunage

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