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Posted by Kurve on Jun-21-2001 22:40:

i dont htink u can die from Acid ....or E ..... if y try to take to muych all u doing is making your brain really retarded.....but i dont think its like Herion or something where you can physicaly overdose.........but i still thing if u love the music why the fuck do u need the drugs....... for me its saying that people that do drugs at events and stuff...they have to take drugs to like the music


Posted by totalcarnage on Jun-21-2001 22:48:

Re: 300 PILLS of E

quote:
Originally posted by u4ea:[soulstar]
A male friend has taken 300 MDMA pills (acquired from the same source in Amsterdam and tested with testing kits). The first 200 times were usually awesome with each use increasingly followed by a worse depression and insomnia. Ignoring these symptoms he continued to take 2-3 pills every weekend. Over Labor Day weekend he consumed 7 pills. That was the last time he used it. After the weekend he became severaly depressed and hasn't slept more then 2 hours a night in the five months since his last use. He is unable to concentrate or complete tasks. He does not remember most of the so called incredible times he had on MDMA. He dose not smoke, drink, or take other drugs (except benzos which he used to come down of the MDMA).

Now he is afraid he has done permanent damage to his brain. He is hoping abstinence will enable him to recover. 5-HTP, melatonin and SSRI's have reduced the depression but the insomnia and memory loss are showing no signs of abating.

2000


I found this story at erowid.com, it has stories of bad trips and among other unpleasant experiences. This one takes home the trophy for stupidity.
the link to experiences


This doesn't sound like a recreational user...every weekend? I say he had this coming. I take E more often than I probably should (about 2 every other weekend), and have never experienced depression, but my fiance has...so be careful. Let your body recoup! besides I am sure this is a rare instance, but can happen to anyone, I suppose.
300 @ 2-3/weekend...hmmm...thats 104-156/year 2-3 years of non-stop weekend parties...damn

I am still in double digits...


Posted by totalcarnage on Jun-21-2001 22:51:

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
i agree with tranceCluber. it gets really sad when the people at the party don't even know the DJ that is spinning and they don't even care to find out. i only go for the name.


God I hate that...I have some acquaintences like that, they like the music, but dont know any of the DJs. Then they can't figure out the difference between someone like PvD and Paul Oakenfold...one is an artist/DJ and one is DJ/mixer(well I guess Oakey is a composer now )


Posted by bluE_Neon on Jun-22-2001 00:26:

lol dis is so funny another idiot died from E
fuck E!! ive never done it and i wont, not coz of wat ive heard, just pointless 2 me 2 do ne drug..way cant u go on a rave and party sober..ive done dat many times, ya ppl say E makes u really hear da sounds, vibes of trance, blablabla..guess wat i hear da same when im sober so fuck E and every other drug


Posted by StereoPrincess on Jun-22-2001 00:35:

quote:
Originally posted by bluE_Neon
lol dis is so funny another idiot died from E
fuck E!! ive never done it and i wont, not coz of wat ive heard, just pointless 2 me 2 do ne drug..way cant u go on a rave and party sober..ive done dat many times, ya ppl say E makes u really hear da sounds, vibes of trance, blablabla..guess wat i hear da same when im sober so fuck E and every other drug


i think i remember you saying that you smoked pot. and drinking?? well that's even worse. if you don't wanna do drugs that's cool.

anyways, its physically impossible to overdose on MDMA. your body just gets rid of any extra that goes into you body. this is coming from my university biochemistry teacher. the problem lies in all the other crap that people sell as E.


Posted by bluE_Neon on Jun-22-2001 00:41:

smoking up and drinking is really occasional now 4 me Princess, when i said a month ago, i was doing it occassionally and i still am


Posted by StereoPrincess on Jun-22-2001 00:47:

some ppl can't even handle that occasionally. i know that you are not a pot head or a drunk. and there are a lot of ppl that only do e occasionally. same thing.


Posted by bluE_Neon on Jun-22-2001 00:51:

exactly ksiezniczko and im really occasional


Posted by StereoPrincess on Jun-22-2001 01:03:

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Originally posted by bluE_Neon
exactly ksiezniczko and im really occasional


hey wiesz co?? my mozemy tak jak te wszystkie inne forenery.


Posted by bluE_Neon on Jun-22-2001 02:14:

LOL!! ksiezniczko----->forenery, sorry nie zrozumialem co powiedzialas


Posted by TrAnCe CoNtRoL on Jun-22-2001 03:34:

yeah like stereoprincess said, i dont think the problem is the mdma, is the other shit that they put in it thats fucking shit up. pma, which has killed like 20 people in the US alone. thats the "new thing" these fucking idiots are putting in the pills. ive never done e before, but ive shroomed and done acid. i want to take e but i want to know what the fuck is in it before i drop.


Posted by u4ea:[soulstar] on Jun-22-2001 04:13:

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I know its already been said, but you just have to be careful when you take any kind of drug... Aren't you supposed to wait a week or so between X-ing... I dunno, never done it, but I'll try it soon enough...


=Dj Bod=
if you are going to try taking E, I suggest you prep for the damage E will do to your axons, specifically your serotonin neurons. You should buy a bottle of 5HTP (its basically like taking in more serotonin for your brain). Do it for a week before you go to a rave. On the day, don't take any 5HTP. When you come down from E, give it two hours cooldown, start taking a bunch of 5HTP again and throughtout the week, and so on. Keep this cycle going if you are regularly using E.

Frankly, I believe mushroom is the safest and has no toxicity, and it does what E can do and more. Not to mention, zero quality control for E while mush is grown. Mush has zero addiction potential, in ways it's actually beneficial to the brain when taken in moderation. I once taken 12 grams of mush in one night, 3 ingestions of 4 grams each. I was fine the next day, no withdrawals whatsoever. This was equivalent to taking 6 hits of E, and with E you'll be paying it dearly when you come down: bad taste in mouth, muscles sore from teeth grinding, no appetite. Eck!



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i don't do lots of drugs but stories like this always make me think about why i can't remember where i put my keys or something.


you know about 5htp? if you don't take dietary supplements to rebuild the damage, than it takes much longer for the brain to do so without assistance. When you get to the point where you memory is relapsing, you better stop taking E.

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thats so not true, you know what're getting into with every pill, its just a matter of knowing your limit and not going overboard... as for 300 pill dude, i just gotta say, drugs aren't for everyone, some people should not take it, period... if youre suffering from depression before trying E, you should not try it at all, youre just digging a bigger hole for yrself... i know a dude that had done 400 pills in one year, thats to say he was partying every weekend, thursday through sunday, last year, and this year he had taken off, and he is feeling fine, no memory loss, no depression (and no, i'm not describing myself)... so the point is, if youre takin E, know your limit and don't take E for the wrong reasons...


there are exceptions, your friend's neurochemistry is much stronger than the average person. Meaning his brain can regenerate the damage done to the serotonin axons much faster than most popper.

Peeps are who already inherent and genetically mentally unstable, well you can imagine what will happen when this person takes too much e or abuses it. They either die or need serious psychiatric help later, depending from the quality of e ingested.

[jparknyc]
This is just my personal experience. There is no question in my mind E is not good enough substance to mushroom. The danger levels are much higher for E than it is mushroom. But there ways to lessen the bad effects of E, all one needs is education and less stupidity.

I know there's a lot of young young in people here who just go, get high, and feel each other out. Don't care for the music, don't dance, and don't care much for who's spinning. What a waste.


Posted by TrAnCe CoNtRoL on Jun-22-2001 04:35:

yeah shroomies are the way to go . and wow 12g of shrooms in one night, you must have been tripping your fucking balls off


Posted by LiquidX on Jun-22-2001 04:43:

quote:
Originally posted by u4ea:[soulstar]


=Dj Bod=
if you are going to try taking E, I suggest you prep for the damage E will do to your axons, specifically your serotonin neurons. You should buy a bottle of 5HTP (its basically like taking in more serotonin for your brain). Do it for a week before you go to a rave. On the day, don't take any 5HTP. When you come down from E, give it two hours cooldown, start taking a bunch of 5HTP again and throughtout the week, and so on. Keep this cycle going if you are regularly using E.

Frankly, I believe mushroom is the safest and has no toxicity, and it does what E can do and more. Not to mention, zero quality control for E while mush is grown. Mush has zero addiction potential, in ways it's actually beneficial to the brain when taken in moderation. I once taken 12 grams of mush in one night, 3 ingestions of 4 grams each. I was fine the next day, no withdrawals whatsoever. This was equivalent to taking 6 hits of E, and with E you'll be paying it dearly when you come down: bad taste in mouth, muscles sore from teeth grinding, no appetite. Eck!





you know about 5htp? if you don't take dietary supplements to rebuild the damage, than it takes much longer for the brain to do so without assistance. When you get to the point where you memory is relapsing, you better stop taking E.



there are exceptions, your friend's neurochemistry is much stronger than the average person. Meaning his brain can regenerate the damage done to the serotonin axons much faster than most popper.

Peeps are who already inherent and genetically mentally unstable, well you can imagine what will happen when this person takes too much e or abuses it. They either die or need serious psychiatric help later, depending from the quality of e ingested.

[jparknyc]
This is just my personal experience. There is no question in my mind E is not good enough substance to mushroom. The danger levels are much higher for E than it is mushroom. But there ways to lessen the bad effects of E, all one needs is education and less stupidity.

I know there's a lot of young young in people here who just go, get high, and feel each other out. Don't care for the music, don't dance, and don't care much for who's spinning. What a waste.


Yooo. thanx for all the educated responses,many people dont know all this, including me, I personally dont do E, cause i know it kills your brain cells and all, plus is friking 25 bucks a pill here.
peace


Posted by u4ea:[soulstar] on Jun-22-2001 04:55:

quote:
Originally posted by TrAnCe CoNtRoL
yeah shroomies are the way to go . and wow 12g of shrooms in one night, you must have been tripping your fucking balls off


Ffahahaa. yeah shroomies is the way of the budda! I usually do it alone, it is the only way to reach places only dedicated zen masters could reach.

as for tripping, it's like LSD, major visuals and colors, very shamanic. I saw so many different colors in white light, it was beyond imagination. One time I went so deep, I saw the birth of the universe, Bless my eyes. Once you've taken shrooms, you don't look at this world the same way again.


Posted by TrAnCe CoNtRoL on Jun-22-2001 05:00:

yeah ive done em, but not alone, and i didnt take that many. maybe 3g in one night. im pretty young so i still live with my parents, and they dont leave often. i wouldnt want to worry about them coming in my room when im tripping, so i dont do them alone. plus my room isnt too interesting, so i dunno how fun that would be. but yes they are very fun, and no side affects the day after.


Posted by u4ea:[soulstar] on Jun-22-2001 05:01:

LiquidX, that is expensives - its 20-25 cdn here.

still, you get your money's worth in mush than E.

Mushroom is nature's gift to humanity, you can practicaly pick it from your backyard, like in Holland! infact you buy a mush kit on the net and grow your own.


Posted by u4ea:[soulstar] on Jun-22-2001 05:14:

quote:
Originally posted by TrAnCe CoNtRoL
yeah ive done em, but not alone, and i didnt take that many. maybe 3g in one night. im pretty young so i still live with my parents, and they dont leave often. i wouldnt want to worry about them coming in my room when im tripping, so i dont do them alone. plus my room isnt too interesting, so i dunno how fun that would be. but yes they are very fun, and no side affects the day after.


Well, when I used to do it, I meditated when I was on mush. It is 100 times easier than the normal way. I put on some nice trance music, and close my eyes. within 15 minutes you know what happens?

It's a blissful feeling, more intense than euphoria or any drug high. You feel at peace, tranquil, and bliss all at the same time. Your concentration is so tight and intense you lose awareness of where you are even the room you are in. Everything around you disappears, you can't feel your body and mind anymore, can't even feel your breathing, completely silent. it's like you faded away from reality. A place called Nirvana, this was Buddha's Enlightenment, his ultimate achievement. I only touched it.

I can do this with mush or other substance like e, or ghb, or lsd.

The field neurotheology has been able to explain what is happening in the brain when a person reaches a nirvanic state in meditation.

I'll have to fish for the link and post it here if anyone is interested.


Posted by bluE_Neon on Jun-22-2001 07:15:

first time i did Shrumz i did 2grams..i was laughing my head of, everything seemed so funny 2 me, but dat was like 4 3 hours and da rest of da buzzzzz was really safe..i listened 2 trance and fuck ive never felt better listening 2 it, ya its tru about da colours u see, my friend had a blue light bulb and when i was looking at it, it remainded me da color i saw on da rave once, blue neon lightz, dats wat i saw at da moment..awww wonderful memories 2 rememba every1 is sharing there experiences so i did as well


Posted by u4ea:[soulstar] on Jun-22-2001 07:24:

quote:
Originally posted by bluE_Neon
first time i did Shrumz i did 2grams..i was laughing my head of, everything seemed so funny 2 me, but dat was like 4 3 hours and da rest of da buzzzzz was really safe..i listened 2 trance and fuck ive never felt better listening 2 it, ya its tru about da colours u see, my friend had a blue light bulb and when i was looking at it, it remainded me da color i saw on da rave once, blue neon lightz, dats wat i saw at da moment..awww wonderful memories 2 rememba every1 is sharing there experiences so i did as well


PFahaha you too eh? yeah couple grams is fine, if you want to go much deeper, upp the dosage.

my friends and I had a little mush party a few years ago. My guts was hurting from laughing, couldn't stop. Everything was so dam funny, just non-stop laughing for hours! It was a blast.


Posted by mute79 on Jun-22-2001 07:31:

you people do know how they grow mushrooms, right?


Posted by bluE_Neon on Jun-22-2001 07:35:

i heard it grows on cow shit..well dats wat ive heard


Posted by mute79 on Jun-22-2001 07:46:

haha ya, thats why i'll never try it...


Posted by bluE_Neon on Jun-22-2001 07:51:

hehe cud be tru though


Posted by mute79 on Jun-22-2001 08:00:

it is true, that is how they grow it... i feel sorry for that dude that ate 12 grams in night, ewww


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