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Posted by Spin Doctor on Nov-18-2003 07:17:

Captian Picard 03nz all. And the borg were fricking cool until they ruined them in Voyager. Enterprise is dire though.


Posted by Endlesswave on Nov-18-2003 07:35:

I agree w you Spin Doctor. Star Trek TNG was the best out of the bunch, DS9 was good as well (at least somewhat), Voyager got better as the show progressed but in the beginning was meh. Imo.
Who's the best villain of any of the series?

IMO it has to be a tie between Q and The Borg.


Posted by Moongoose on Nov-18-2003 10:23:

The best willains have to be the Dominion soldiers from DS9. I mean you got to feel sorry for the Jem`Hadar, they wore geneticaly engineered so that they dont need/want to eat sleep or have sex. No wonder they are so mean i would want to kill everybody in the galaxy too if some prick took away or the fun stuff to do in life


DS9 is the best IMHO...The scenes with Odo and Quark are some of the funniest in the series

Anyone remembers the Trials and Tribble-ations ep from DS9...now that was a classic


Posted by montie on Nov-18-2003 10:43:

quote:
Originally posted by anuneventrade
Star wars is better!


star wars WAS better.

then the new one's came out. and it all went ot shit


it's all about the empire strikes back


Posted by Pheobius on Nov-18-2003 10:54:

yeah, empire rules, ds9 was the best Star Trek tho, the borg were the best baddies, First contact was actually a gd movie


Posted by Carl0s on Nov-18-2003 11:25:

Captain! They've adapted!


The Star Ship enterprise alone would own the entire Star Wars Galaxy.


Posted by Streakfury on Nov-18-2003 12:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Pheobius
yeah, empire rules, ds9 was the best Star Trek tho, the borg were the best baddies, First contact was actually a gd movie


Haha, love your sig! I'm from near Cambridge, so I feel your pain!


Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on Nov-18-2003 13:23:

The Next Generation is totally awesome, although they occasionally do enforce diplomacy a bit too much. The original series was ok, but kinda funny and naive. DS9 is a boring soap opera. Voyager is totally retarded, let's all be good and save other species and hug trees. The new Enterprise does show some potential though.


Posted by VIO on Nov-18-2003 13:56:

babylon 5 was 1000 times better then anything star trek.


Posted by butterfly on Nov-18-2003 15:45:

my favorite was TNG.


Posted by Spin Doctor on Nov-18-2003 22:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Endlesswave
IMO it has to be a tie between Q and The Borg.


Deffo a tie between the Q and Borg. But not all the other Q�s who appeared in Voyager, only the Q who was in TNG and a few Voyager episodes. The thing between Picard and Q in All Good Things is a masterpiece.


Posted by Spin Doctor on Nov-18-2003 22:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Carl0s
The Star Ship enterprise alone would own the entire Star Wars Galaxy.


Correct!


Posted by Moongoose on Nov-18-2003 23:34:

Which Enterprise? Original, A, B ,C, D oe E? The galaxy class Enterprise was sweet howewer that bug of a defiant could make it go BOOM in a few seconds...now the Enterprise E thats some badass ship (notto mention it looks so damn good). However even Enterprise E wouldnt do much good agains a super star destroyer.

I mean comparing these two is like the enterprise is a puny honda civic and a super star destroyer is one of those cars that parks beside the "Parking for 500HP+ only" signs...like the new BMW M5 Cmon it has to be 10 times the size of the enterprise...


Not to mention that grand admiral Thrawn (you need to read the SW books to know about him) could take down the whole 3rd fleet even if he was commanding a few transport shuttles






...yes i am a geek so what ...


Posted by Shad0wmaster on Nov-19-2003 00:06:

Classic trek is the best. period.


Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on Nov-19-2003 00:19:

Picard's Enterprise would definitely beat a super star distroyer, if we neglect the jedi powers of the commanders. Remember that SSD, and all the star wars ships use laser weapons (although how they travel slower than light is beyond my comprehention), to which Enterprise's shield is virtually impregnable. Now, Enterprise's phasors are much more powerful than lasers, so they'd punch through the SSD's shields like a knife through warm butter.


Posted by Moongoose on Nov-19-2003 02:23:

Hmmm thats trough phazers shoot extra hot plazma or something like that right and the shields on those federation ships are quite good. However SSD carried a whole lot of starfighters which are aremed with missles and photon torpedos and that can do some serious damage to a ship. And i would like to see the weapons officer on a ST ship try to shoot down about 500 starfigters before they luch their torpedoes Dont underestimate a small ship after all it was a tiny x-wing that took out the death star (id like to see a galaxy class ship on the death star trench run )

And if verything else fails...do you remember the damage that the SSD did when it hit the death star? practicly nothing right...

Now a galaxy class ship is what...500m at the most. SSD is more than 8km in lenght (or something like that according to my copy of XWvsTF), if they decide to ram a ST ship not even emergency power to the shield will do them good Even an ordinary SD is 4x the size of a galaxy class. SSD has a crew of 250.000 for gos sake


And like i said...SW has Grand admiral Thrawn (go read the empire/Thrawn trilogy - Heir to the empire, Dark force rising, The last command). With such a brilliand tactician even the most bald headed group of captains in the alpha quadrand cant fight out a wictory


Posted by zarathustra on Nov-19-2003 02:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Moongoose
SSD is more than 8km in lenght (or something like that according to my copy of XWvsTF),


Yes, you are correct according ty my copy of "Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels" and yes Thrawn would be a great asset but on the whole I think Star Trek is somewhat more high tech then Star Wars with transporters and all and I just don't know how it would all play out. I have no idea how they would defeat the Death Star or the Sun Crusher though.

I used to read every Star Wars book out there, the Trilogy by Timothy Zahn has to be the best.


Posted by zarathustra on Nov-19-2003 02:42:

quote:
Taken from bash.org
#1379 +(281)- [X]

ive been to one star trek convention, and i was 14
it was cool. patrick stewart was there
they told us not to ask why they cant fix baldness in the 24th century


Posted by Zombie0915 on Nov-19-2003 03:10:

DS9 is great, the whole idea of flyin by some place and fixing the whole planets problems and flying away never having to deal with the consequences of what u did was a bunch of BS that all the other serie's did. The beggening of voyager was very nice, but towards the end it was sooooooo horrible and redneckefied that I couldnt stand it. TNG was alright, there were def some good episodes, original series roxor!!! w00t

A klingon cruiser could so kick the arse of any star wars p'tak that stood in its way! Klingons rule! ka'pla!


Posted by Moongoose on Nov-19-2003 12:17:

quote:
Taken from bash.org
#1379 +(281)- [X]

ive been to one star trek convention, and i was 14
it was cool. patrick stewart was there
they told us not to ask why they cant fix baldness in the 24th century


I belive they can, but they dont dare...

After all didnt Sisqo say just before he led the strike on DS9 in the dominion war that "Fortune favores the bald" Thats why all the best captains in the fleet have no hair...Pickard, Sisqo...also exp�lains why Janeay took so long to get home. If she would shave her head instead of using a dozen hairs of hairspray a day to keep it up she probably woudnt get stuck in the delta quadrant at all


Klingon ships look like they are ready for the visit at the juhnkyard ...its like comparing a muscle car to a BMW M3 ...sure it MAY POSSIBLY beat the M3 around the track with a crazy enough driver but do you really want to win in such an ugly car or would you likey do it with style



Also explains why Pickard and Piker get so many babes Enterprise is so Pimp Which girl woudnt fall for the " hey honey you know my baby can pull warp 9.95 on a good tay..wanna take a ride with me"




...im gatting more off topic with every word i write


Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on Nov-19-2003 16:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Moongoose
Hmmm thats trough phazers shoot extra hot plazma or something like that right and the shields on those federation ships are quite good. However SSD carried a whole lot of starfighters which are aremed with missles and photon torpedos and that can do some serious damage to a ship. And i would like to see the weapons officer on a ST ship try to shoot down about 500 starfigters before they luch their torpedoes Dont underestimate a small ship after all it was a tiny x-wing that took out the death star (id like to see a galaxy class ship on the death star trench run )

And if verything else fails...do you remember the damage that the SSD did when it hit the death star? practicly nothing right...

Now a galaxy class ship is what...500m at the most. SSD is more than 8km in lenght (or something like that according to my copy of XWvsTF), if they decide to ram a ST ship not even emergency power to the shield will do them good Even an ordinary SD is 4x the size of a galaxy class. SSD has a crew of 250.000 for gos sake


And like i said...SW has Grand admiral Thrawn (go read the empire/Thrawn trilogy - Heir to the empire, Dark force rising, The last command). With such a brilliand tactician even the most bald headed group of captains in the alpha quadrand cant fight out a wictory


Yes, the torpedoes are more powerful than the lasers, but still, you'd need a hell of a lot torpedoes to defeat the Enterprise. And the size of the SSD doesn't matter, since it's mobility is just about equal to zero.


Posted by MERTON on Nov-19-2003 19:57:

this has become dorky.


Posted by Zombie0915 on Nov-19-2003 20:13:

oh no u did not just bash the Klingons!!

*whips out teh batlith,


you will die with honor!


Klingon ships look like that cuz they aint designed to retreat, they designed to shoot the crap out of u'z!


Posted by Kirk on Nov-19-2003 20:33:

quote:
Originally posted by VIO
babylon 5 was 1000 times better then anything star trek.


i'd say 2000 times better, babylon 5 was quality!


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