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Posted by Elmo-On-XTC on Aug-13-2003 21:34:

funny...didn't i mention something along the lines of this forum is getting out of hand with personal shit? hmm...but oh nooooooo...only replies were 'it's only this thread, the rest is fine...no probems here'

i still don't think banning/suspending accts solves anything really...just makes a sticky telling everyone to calm down or the TOTA section is gonna go hardcore and moderate every single post to the point where you say 'shit' and your post is deleted

you guys are strange


Posted by Elmo-On-XTC on Aug-13-2003 21:36:

quote:
Originally posted by partyprincess
I think that this is a much more complicated problem then what appears at the surface. The people who started the whole musak/khalalala fiasco are to blame. They should be banned...They're all egging him on and other evil doers. Musak is black. It seems like he's the one being discriminated against. I just read through that entire thread and couldn't find one single threat. And so I must conclude that personal dislike for Musak had a lot to do with his suspension. The same goes for Vividboy.


eh Italians get picked on enough here too lol

"Many Languages, many races...but ONE people" - Atlas - Compass Error


Posted by drgoodvibe on Aug-13-2003 21:37:

Thumbs up

quote:
Originally posted by Endlesswave
It has nothing to do with him being black or personal dislike. He made racist comments heavily implying that people from the middle east are inclined to be terrorists and blow things up which is DEAD WRONG. Shit like that = ban. Vividboy's shit distubring was ok sometimes(we all need that, that's what the khalalal crew is for) but when serious shit happens you stop that. Same goes for Kahalalalla peeps, when the serious shit happens stop the khalalalal crap. Not the place for it.



i completely agree with this.. *shrug*


Posted by tha_broad on Aug-13-2003 21:42:

quote:
Originally posted by partyprincess
I think that this is a much more complicated problem then what appears at the surface. The people who started the whole musak/khalalala fiasco are to blame. They should be banned...They're all egging him on and other evil doers. Musak is black. It seems like he's the one being discriminated against. I just read through that entire thread and couldn't find one single threat. And so I must conclude that personal dislike for Musak had a lot to do with his suspension. The same goes for Vividboy.

you are completely incorrect here. The Khallalalallala stuff was started soley for fun and was not directed at anybody in a derogatory manner. Its a chant by middle easterners and it was being used my middle easterners. THEY WERENT INSULTING ANYBODY!! the worst they did was get on a lot of peoples nerves and defend themselves from the insulting antics of mju:ick or whatever his name is. Therefore, I'll say it again (cuz it sounds good) I AM RIGHT!

(P.S. Mirza and I were NOT staring you down at A&B. I dont know how u got that impression. We were kind of "in our own world" that night.)


Posted by Elmo-On-XTC on Aug-13-2003 21:43:

ok time to close the thread


Posted by Fir3start3r on Aug-13-2003 21:48:

quote:
Originally posted by partyprincess
You can't just suspend 3 people...What is that supposed to be an example for the rest? There were about 30 involved. It's simply not fair for a few to get the rap for everyone elses doings.


So what? Suspend 30?

I have to admit that some went a little too far and people here should be old enough to know better.

The anonymity of the Internet is no excuse for slipping back to preschool mannerisms...

Gawd...I sound like my mother...see what you made me do??


Posted by Fir3start3r on Aug-13-2003 21:51:

quote:
Originally posted by partyprincess
No, issue a warning and close the friggin thread.


I thought they had been though?

(If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I thought they were?)


Posted by tha_broad on Aug-13-2003 21:53:

quote:
Originally posted by partyprincess
Where the hell did that come from? I think I saw you once the entire night! Oh and yes all the Khalalalala shit is egging everyone on. And they new it when it started. They were all just waiting for everything to blow up in their face. No need to be rude to me, hun.

meh...im neutral...wasnt meant to be rude....i just heard that u thought we were so i was lettin ya know we werent.
as for khalalallalalallala they were responding thats all......mju:duck couldnt leave them alone to do their thing thats all...and vivid boy....meh! hes a whole other case.....the khallalallala was not purposely egging anybody on....they were simply defending themselves...and responding to the idiocracys of others


Posted by tha_broad on Aug-13-2003 22:02:

quote:
Originally posted by partyprincess
Bottom line is, the so-called punishment is not just. In order for punishment to be just you need to punish all offenders equally. Am I not correct? TOTA needs to rethink some of it's policies.

depends on the crime. You cant punish somebody who killed somebody the same as somebody who stole some candy out of a store....


Posted by Fir3start3r on Aug-13-2003 22:06:

quote:
Originally posted by partyprincess
Bottom line is, the so-called punishment is not just. In order for punishment to be just you need to punish all offenders equally. Am I not correct? TOTA needs to rethink some of it's policies.


The problem is, "We" don't get to choose who.
"They" do.

"We" are guests.
"They" own the house that "We" are in.

They can't predict everything that's going to go on in a forum, they can only react to what has already been done and make the best judgement call from there.

We don't have to like it.

It's not what happened, it's how we react to it.

The admins can't undo what they just did because then it looks like they don't have a backbone in their own house and can succumb to the whim of their guests' beck and call.

Maybe they do have to rethink their policies.
Maybe they should ADD something to their policies.

Are their any suggestions out there then?


Posted by Cyrus King on Aug-13-2003 22:10:

Partyprincess..stop whining...the admins did their job.

Open up your own website and set your rules there...then you can ban anyone you want.


Posted by Crazy Serb on Aug-13-2003 22:12:

quote:
Originally posted by partyprincess
Bottom line is, the so-called punishment is not just. In order for punishment to be just you need to punish all offenders equally. Am I not correct? TOTA needs to rethink some of it's policies.


Right, right... and that's how the judicial system in this country works too, punishing everyone equally? Interesting...

And I didn't even know that TOTA had any policies at all...


Posted by LKD on Aug-13-2003 22:12:

k i accpet the warnign but because nobody even knew why the previous thread about hardcore trancer was started, neither did i and so i started it....wi started it as a way fof keeping that crap out of the other threads (and it did work might i add)...then all the BS happened (which i expected only later)...


i was going to delete it but then certain individuals asked me not to so taht it could be proof of Mju:zik causing trouble



PS. i dont mean to question any actions but was it jsut me or was wimon only talking hypothetically when he said those racist comments???


Posted by Cyrus King on Aug-13-2003 22:16:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee
PS. i dont mean to question any actions but was it jsut me or was wimon only talking hypothetically when he said those racist comments???


Thats exactly what i thought too. I think he was giving Mjusik a taste of his own medicine....but others thought he was just being plain racist.


Posted by tha_broad on Aug-13-2003 22:19:

Whatever. Whats done is done. Accept it move on. No need to start more BS and have more people suspended.
Im officially boycotting this thread.


Posted by Flec on Aug-13-2003 22:20:

if you dont like the way shit gets done here, get the fuck out

( not directed at anyone in particular)


Posted by Skipper on Aug-13-2003 22:20:

Re: NOTICE OF SUSPENSIONS and PUBLIC WARNINGS

quote:
Originally posted by itikia
and last but not least, DJ EL KAY DEE will also be issued a warning:

1. For starting a thread that, knowingly, instigated and propogated fighting amongst the TOTA's.


No offense, but you've done the same thing with this thread. It should have been posted, stickied and closed.


Posted by itikia on Aug-13-2003 22:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
Thats exactly what i thought too. I think he was giving Mjusik a taste of his own medicine....but others thought he was just being plain racist.


That's the thing, he was talking hypothetical. But 2 wrongs don't make a right, capish?

itikia

PS> I did think about the sticky and close route, but I decided to leave it open for discusion. Keep in mind that this thread is being watching very closely and it will not break out into a fight.


Posted by LKD on Aug-13-2003 22:29:

Re: Re: NOTICE OF SUSPENSIONS and PUBLIC WARNINGS

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
No offense, but you've done the same thing with this thread. It should have been posted, stickied and closed.
shhhh....doooooont....


i was actually expecting to be suspended too last night...but whatever...it was a warning...its ok....


Posted by Endlesswave on Aug-13-2003 22:34:

Naw Liam you didn't intend or mean for the thread to get out of hand (at least I don't think so). I read it as a kind of continuation of the Khalalala joke crap that's all. Was alll blown into a huge mess though...


Posted by tha_broad on Aug-13-2003 22:36:

Ok, nevermind the boycot. I just thought of something...Whats going to happen when Mju:ics ban is over? Im sure he will come back with an attitude thats worse than before. Is there some sort of "probation period" that hell have to go thru where his posts are watched? or will he be wild and free all over again. For all we know he might come back with a vengeance for those who he feels "got him banned" Im also kind of concerned of what could happen if he comes out to a TA party and faces hardcore_trancer or mako...Its a public place anything can happen


Posted by DigiNut on Aug-13-2003 22:39:

I think certain people in this thread ought to stop complaining. It's one thing when a person makes threats, personal insults, or blatantly racist comments on a regular basis, or just annoys the living hell out of everyone. However, when one decides to put their negative attitude and poor manners on public display, that one ought to be prepared for the consequences of those actions (i.e. public irritation and disrespect).

Nobody has any sort of god-given right to respect from their peers - if you want it, earn it. Don't complain to the mods about getting too little of it.

If 'mju:zik comes back "with a vengeance", he'll probably get perm-banned, I trust the trancEaddict powers that be...


Posted by itikia on Aug-13-2003 22:39:

Nah, nothing is going to happen. He has already apologized for his actions in the other thread...

itikia


Posted by Skipper on Aug-13-2003 22:42:

quote:
Originally posted by tha_broad
Ok, nevermind the boycot. I just thought of something...Whats going to happen when Mju:ics ban is over? Im sure he will come back with an attitude thats worse than before. Is there some sort of "probation period" that hell have to go thru where his posts are watched? or will he be wild and free all over again. For all we know he might come back with a vengeance for those who he feels "got him banned" Im also kind of concerned of what could happen if he comes out to a TA party and faces hardcore_trancer or mako...Its a public place anything can happen


This is why trolls should be ignored in the first place. A troll is just a more agressive version of an attention whore, and if you ignore him/her, they will stop their tactics. Guaranteed. They are only looking for a response.


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Aug-13-2003 22:42:

[23:39] VividBoy - i just wanted to let u all know that in lue of my 5 day banning i decided to go for a 5 day bike ride.. and to the broad about meeting mujix and what he will do? why are u so worried? because hes black


:S

edit:


[23:41] VividBoy - itikia ur a commie
[23:42] VividBoy - stop trying to sell everyone propaganda
[23:48] Itikia -


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