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yes, im keeping tabs on pro this and pro that.

note to self: prolikeawhore is pro criticize

yes i contradict myself, it attracts people like you to my thread so that you can point out the obvious

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Originally posted by Viber but you need to see what came first?,i mean the palastinians have started this big attack on israel in 2000 and then as a response the IDF came inside the terretories and fighted terror in the best way and its a fact that it did some good (and dont tell me they kill innocente people out of porpuse,if you want you can compare the US army and the israeli armiy standerts of morality and you will see the diffrence) i think that sharon made the right thing,if you have a better solution to the terror infested terrtories then tell me! and dont tell me "to give the palastinians a country and this will end this" ,becuse doing peace with the PO that cant\dont want to control the terror orginazations is a risk that no country including sweden will take and i think that the pal" people suicide becuse they see terror as a good way of getting the bigger part of israel and the part that they want and only what they want nothing less,and not the 98& of the terretory that israel has offered them and also please dont make these fuck headz into heros,maybe you want us to give the palastinians sacrifices to satisfy their thirst for dead israelies

Okay, this is my solution to the problem. Nuke 'em all, or maybe not, that's almost what you are trying to do though... I think if they had a country worth living in it would be harder to recruit suiciders, or at least it would be easier to fight them if you had the palistine authoritys on your side. Imagine their situation, they don't have enough money to fight you in a tradional way, so they fight you in the terror way. Exacly what i should do if i where them. Don't tell me you would have been looking at your enemy while they stole your land (yes, that's a quastion of defenitions....)...

No it's not easy to do peace with PO, but how do you want it to stop? You have to accept that they have the right for their land, like they have to accept that you have the right to your land. Otherwise this will never end! It's a risk, but it's the only way to solve the conflict (yes you can nuke 'em all too). So remove all your settlments on the palistine territory and help them build up a country worth living in!

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Originally posted by St_Andrew Okay, this is my solution to the problem. Nuke 'em all, or maybe not, that's almost what you are trying to do though... I think if they had a country worth living in it would be harder to recruit suiciders, or at least it would be easier to fight them if you had the palistine authoritys on your side. Imagine their situation, they don't have enough money to fight you in a tradional way, so they fight you in the terror way. Exacly what i should do if i where them. Don't tell me you would have been looking at your enemy while they stole your land (yes, that's a quastion of defenitions....)... No it's not easy to do peace with PO, but how do you want it to stop? You have to accept that they have the right for their land, like they have to accept that you have the right to your land. Otherwise this will never end! It's a risk, but it's the only way to solve the conflict (yes you can nuke 'em all too). So remove all your settlments on the palistine territory and help them build up a country worth living in!

i understand your pain for the many murders that have died becuse of israel,terrorists are a shitty little life form nothing more,sharon didnt "nuke em" if israel have wanted to really erase the palastinians then israel whould have done it already

you need to understand that the palastinians cant come to sharon with a gun in one hand and with a pen in the other and say "lets do peace!"
you really dont understand that if we will give the pal" a country when the terrorist orginazations are still up and running,:after they will have what they "belong" of israel they will see that terror is working and then even the people of haifa,tel-aviv etc will be forced to leave too becuse the terrorists will want this parts or else - the atacks will continue

you cant let terror win!

i dont think any israeli will care if there will be a pal" country or if the settelments will be removed,after all we are up for peace but you cant do peace with an authority that cant control all of its psychopathes that wants to sanctify the islam ruling on the "whole israel" ,when abbas control the pal" people ,the palastinians will have a country

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Originally posted by Viber i understand your pain for the many murders that have died becuse of israel,terrorists are a shitty little life form nothing more,sharon didnt "nuke em" if israel have wanted to really erase the palastinians then israel whould have done it already you need to understand that the palastinians cant come to sharon with a gun in one hand and with a pen in the other and say "lets do peace!" you really dont understand that if we will give the pal" a country when the terrorist orginazations are still up and running,:after they will have what they "belong" of israel they will see that terror is working and then even the people of haifa,tel-aviv etc will be forced to leave too becuse the terrorists will want this parts or else - the atacks will continue you cant let terror win! i dont think any israeli will care if there will be a pal" country or if the settelments will be removed,after all we are up for peace but you cant do peace with an authority that cant control all of its psychopathes that wants to sanctify the islam ruling on the "whole israel" ,when abbas control the pal" people ,the palastinians will have a country

Okay, i think i have to make myself even clearer: Make their life worth living and the suicide attacts will stop or at least it will be much fewer than now!

How do you think this will end if you not give them their country? This psychopathes you are talking about wouldn't be a great problem if the majoroty of the people had a nice peacefull free country to live in. Psychopates get supporters if ppl are desperate (hitler, mogawe etc)...

About terror, i don't think it's good to let it win, but it's even worse to let it continue... And i think all kind of wars is a shitty little form of life....

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Originally posted by St_Andrew Okay, i think i have to make myself even clearer: Make their life worth living and the suicide attacts will stop or at least it will be much fewer than now! How do you think this will end if you not give them their country? This psychopathes you are talking about wouldn't be a great problem if the majoroty of the people had a nice peacefull free country to live in. Psychopates get supporters if ppl are desperate (hitler, mogawe etc)... About terror, i don't think it's good to let it win, but it's even worse to let it continue... And i think all kind of wars is a shitty little form of life....

terror is not about desprate people,or at least not in the palastinians case,becuse its a fact that they had equal right once and they had what every israeli had,and even now the "arab israelies" that have a job and have a house and a car and are living with no soldiers that "bothers" them even these arabs are helping out to terrorists,the plastinians could have peace already, but they have choosen terror becuse they think that in this way israel will give them 70% of israel,including the whole jerusalem,so when arafat and these orginazations say that if there"s a palastinian that is not interested in the whole he can jerusalem then drink from the water of Gaza i beilive them,think about it if the palastinians have wanted just what they have deserve they would have been taking the offer from Ehod barak in camp david 2000 (98% of the terretory)
to tell you the truth,i feel sorry for the palastinians that just want the country that they deserve from israel and nothing more,the SAIN palastinians

i think that israel cant let the intifada win,but let abbas with the sain palastinians that are aginst terror win,you think diffrently i respect your opinion,im tired of showing the people of the world the israeli point of view

I quit

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Originally posted by Viber and what the hell do you think,that rich people from Iraq,syria,iran and other arab countries dont give them money for terror or weapons??

Iran is not an Arab country, don't confuse it as being one.

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Originally posted by Superstar Iran is not an Arab country, don't confuse it as being one.

but iran is a supporter for terror




/me quit

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Originally posted by Viber but iran is a supporter for terror /me quit

Isreal supports terror as well.... its called STATE TERRORISM

hehe viber take it easy, it's a political forum, we respect your opinions even though we don't share them =)

Just one more quastion: Do you regret anything that Isreal has done in the peace process or that you think they should have done anything that they haven't? Do you really think that Israel is for everything good and palestine for everything that is evil? I must say that I think Israel has a bigger responsible for the peace, you are the civilized country...

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cyrusking: Isreal supports terror as well.... its called STATE TERRORISM

your a hater man just more proof! state terrorism? who are you to decide that the actions that a state takes as one way or another? you justify palestinian tactics, but go against israel no matter what you say your wrong!!!! someone needs to report this sly guys filth tactics


where is swamper when he is needed???

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Originally posted by DJBARON cyrusking: Isreal supports terror as well.... its called STATE TERRORISM your a hater man just more proof! state terrorism? who are you to decide that the actions that a state takes as one way or another? you justify palestinian tactics, but go against israel no matter what you say your wrong!!!! someone needs to report this sly guys filth tactics where is swamper when he is needed???

You are ignorant..and israel like the US support state terrorism...same with Russia against the chechyens...and terrorists attack back too with terrorism...

If you do not think palestinians are experiencing terror.. you are in denial.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King You are ignorant..and israel like the US support state terrorism...same with Russia against the chechyens...and terrorists attack back too with terrorism... If you do not think palestinians are experiencing terror.. you are in denial.

Or he just watched CNN and such all his life.

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Originally posted by St_Andrew hehe viber take it easy, it's a political forum, we respect your opinions even though we don't share them =) Just one more quastion: Do you regret anything that Isreal has done in the peace process or that you think they should have done anything that they haven't? Do you really think that Israel is for everything good and palestine for everything that is evil? I must say that I think Israel has a bigger responsible for the peace, you are the civilized country...

Damn men i wanna quit! heh

anyway as i see it,like most israelies i regret about the oslo agreement that gave the palastinians the right to have weapons in the PO terretories and especialy becuse this agreement was respected only by one side
and also i think that every country"s top priorty is to defend its civilians i admit that israel have made somethings wrong but i do say that the IDF is the most moral army in the world,the americans will even call it stupid becuse when the US\UK army wants to clean a place from terror they first boomb the entire area and then they go checking if everything is dead and then they do the search for weapons ,when the israeli army wants to clean a place from terror, it boomb some Terror buildings with only weapons inside and not civilians buildings to save human lives,what is costing some israeli soldiers deathes becuse theres palastinians that ambush soldiers that knock the doors of suspect terrorist houses and when they finally brake in they find a boomb that is about to explode
plus i know that my country have made some useless killings,but there"s a diffrence - when the palastinians kill israeli its maid by deliberately ,but when the israelies do it happens by 18 year old soldiers m mistakes

but bsides all of that you cant denay the fact that the palastinians have broke the oslo agreement and also have denied the ehod barak offer,in other words they had 2 chances of stoping the situation but they didnt,therefor if we dont have peace its their fault

and also i forgat to say that i blame israel for being a suker becuse of the seting of lots of prisoners with blood on their hands go as a part of the "Cease fire"
,in while that the palatinians arent making the effort to stop and crush terror orginazations

Here we go again...We've been through this shit five million times already!

Here we go again...We've been through this shit five million times already!

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like the united states, israel is another free country. id rather live in israel than many other places because they respect humanity. if you agree with me, feel free to chime in... LONG LIVE DEMOCRACY, SUPPORT US AID TO ISRAEL!

call me whatever u want man

the truth is reality and i am living in it.


if you dont like america, then get the ^@^#% out!

if not, then stop talking about how bad everything everyone does is, and give over solutions that you think are realistic.

this is a political discussion forum right? not a bash israel/american policy forum.

stop with your useless cricticms, if your going to post about israel or america, i want to hear some sources from BOTH SIDES until then shut up

my brother works in journalism/military. When you hear from whatever your 'golden source' is about how bad the israeli's are and how bad this is, you are getting the news from a reporter that was shown that the scene, and saw it from an army soldier or a representitive that took them there in a safe method. The ONLY sources you have are the SOURCES THESE REP's GIVE. SO your full of shit if you think you know even 1% of what REALLY happens out there man.

so stop already, cause maybe no one else is getting offended, but as a respected person in the community I am disgusted and well aware that your anti-israel stance is not so much logical based as it is 'feeling' based.

Even if no one is pursuaded by your one sided bullony
I know the reality of things, and I well know that you are anti-israel to the core, and all you can do is admit it. most people cannot tell the difference.... but luckily i've been educated on this subject.

----STOP TALKING SHIT ABOUT ISRAEL AND AMERICA!!!!---
you want to support any arabs at all against israeli or american policy, then i want to see a picture of YOU LIVING THERE WITH THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

easy to talk.

You speak of being realistic while in the other thread you justified Israeli claims to the palestinian lands with your religion?

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Originally posted by DJBARON call me whatever u want man the truth is reality and i am living in it. if you dont like america, then get the ^@^#% out! if not, then stop talking about how bad everything everyone does is, and give over solutions that you think are realistic. this is a political discussion forum right? not a bash israel/american policy forum. stop with your useless cricticms, if your going to post about israel or america, i want to hear some sources from BOTH SIDES until then shut up my brother works in journalism/military. When you hear from whatever your 'golden source' is about how bad the israeli's are and how bad this is, you are getting the news from a reporter that was shown that the scene, and saw it from an army soldier or a representitive that took them there in a safe method. The ONLY sources you have are the SOURCES THESE REP's GIVE. SO your full of shit if you think you know even 1% of what REALLY happens out there man. so stop already, cause maybe no one else is getting offended, but as a respected person in the community I am disgusted and well aware that your anti-israel stance is not so much logical based as it is 'feeling' based. Even if no one is pursuaded by your one sided bullony I know the reality of things, and I well know that you are anti-israel to the core, and all you can do is admit it. most people cannot tell the difference.... but luckily i've been educated on this subject. ----STOP TALKING SHIT ABOUT ISRAEL AND AMERICA!!!!--- you want to support any arabs at all against israeli or american policy, then i want to see a picture of YOU LIVING THERE WITH THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! easy to talk.

AHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHHAHA!!!!!!!

WHO ARE YOU!?!?!?! who the fuck do you think you are...i dont give 3 shits about the "respect" you get from your community...you are trying to be taken seriously from a trance board on the net..grow up moron.

Listen..you just registered in August and missed alot of debate in these forums...so why dont your ignorant self a favour and utilize the SEARCH function....that way you will see how people here try to back up their points...and another thing...if you want ot hear sources from both sides.. do yourself some research you lazzy ass.... stop relying on these forums to teach you stuff...

And dont think you are the only one that knows people who work in the media....

P.S I live in the real world too....

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Originally posted by DJBARON call me whatever u want man the truth is reality and i am living in it. if you dont like america, then get the ^@^#% out! if not, then stop talking about how bad everything everyone does is, and give over solutions that you think are realistic. this is a political discussion forum right? not a bash israel/american policy forum. stop with your useless cricticms, if your going to post about israel or america, i want to hear some sources from BOTH SIDES until then shut up my brother works in journalism/military. When you hear from whatever your 'golden source' is about how bad the israeli's are and how bad this is, you are getting the news from a reporter that was shown that the scene, and saw it from an army soldier or a representitive that took them there in a safe method. The ONLY sources you have are the SOURCES THESE REP's GIVE. SO your full of shit if you think you know even 1% of what REALLY happens out there man. so stop already, cause maybe no one else is getting offended, but as a respected person in the community I am disgusted and well aware that your anti-israel stance is not so much logical based as it is 'feeling' based. Even if no one is pursuaded by your one sided bullony I know the reality of things, and I well know that you are anti-israel to the core, and all you can do is admit it. most people cannot tell the difference.... but luckily i've been educated on this subject. ----STOP TALKING SHIT ABOUT ISRAEL AND AMERICA!!!!--- you want to support any arabs at all against israeli or american policy, then i want to see a picture of YOU LIVING THERE WITH THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! easy to talk.

so what if I dont stop talking "shit" about Isreal,and America??huh?
I will always hate them,and you cant stop me.Those nations have done absolutly no good to this world,and it seems to me that you think you know everything around here!!and you say that you live in reality?? I wonder were you live,to me it seems like you live in the lalala land.
and stop telling people to shutup about their opinions,it is everyones rights to post their opinions,you are not the mod around here.You dont like to read someones comments,simply ignore them,instead of telling them to shutup.

oh god, more noobs.......

"America - Where we can say what we want, as long as its what everyone else thinks."

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Originally posted by ProDiGaL oh god, more noobs.......

yup thats exactly how I feel!!damn noobs

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Originally posted by Eisbaer note to self: viper is pro-israeli

another note to you: this board is dominated by US/Israely hating, mostly radical liberals combination Non-Jewish Middle Easterners. Oh, Canadians too. Enough said.

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Originally posted by rizen no. im sure tons of people would rather live in the other industrial countries that have national health care, like canada. do you want to work until your 67 to retire or just 25years like in mexico, and retire in your mid 40s. a true democracy is nice, not this republic and electorial shit (gore won the popular vote, but the florida supreme court put bush in office. great democracy right?) wouldnt you like to smoke weed everyday and not have idiotic laws not allowing you too, the war on drugs is a joke.

heh. you said Canada. wake up and smell the coffee beans. if you were to mention an industrialized country with a high standard of living and great social programs, it would've been better to mention Scandinavian counrties, and leave Canada alone. Canada is merely a French colony, and the French are not all that productive in much of anything these days, except bitching and making more enemies.

whats with working only 25 years? erm yeah, you lazy (and dumb) marijuana smoking fool. lay off the drugs, and realize what sets apart highly industrilized and successful countrie such as the US apart from Mexico. definitely not working 25 years to retire for the next 40. but i got to mention something. i truly hope you're not an American cos it is just another waste of a living person, food, and life and America needs less of that and more of better than you.

later cracK-er-jack

>JM< (still retired, only visiting back to tell the ignorant off)

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Originally posted by JM another note to you: this board is dominated by US/Israely hating, mostly radical liberals combination Non-Jewish Middle Easterners. Oh, Canadians too. Enough said.

How the FUUUUUCK do you know the ethnic make-up of people participating on the internet????

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