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Originally posted by Liquified Full info is up and limited $10 tickets are now on sale @ www.groovetickets.com

Nice......10 bux?? No Complain

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Originally posted by E-vangelist Devin is an asshole. he dosen't even like trance, he just brings names that will make money. When was the last decent Liquified trance show that wasn't Tiesto? (I don't consider PVD to be trance) Liquified has been pure prog/nubreed for almost 2 years now and they snatched Armin and Ferry and stuck them on weekdays. I only have so much vacation time and they're making me take it all

Don't know if I agree on what u said. Devin has made a lot of effort bringing talented DJs to Atlanta. I think we should be greatful because we are getting Armin, Ferry, Scott Bond in Atlanta. I never thought they would make it here. If he stuck these DJs on a weekend, the ticket price would probably be $30+ and the dancefloor would be so pack that u can't even dance (cuz of the regulars).

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Originally posted by Scottaculous Stay tuned for a TA pre-Armin dinner meetup! Hopefully Armin will make a guest appearance.

hehe........We'll make sure he will come

devin....any chance of gettin markus schulz up to atl?

I know my facts thanks

and didn't want to get into a flame war with anybody over TA, so I'll only make 1 post. I respect Swamper and I try to respect everybody's opinions. I only like trance. it's not closed minded, it's an opinion which I'm not alone in. Same goes for my opinions on liquifed and their parties and the fact that Devin is an elitist who treats people like crap that aren't doing something for him.

Don't worry, whatever my feelings on the promoter I love Armin and I'll definitely be at the show... Liquified will have my money which is the most important part, right?

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Originally posted by E-vangelist I know my facts thanks and didn't want to get into a flame war with anybody over TA, so I'll only make 1 post. I respect Swamper and I try to respect everybody's opinions. I only like trance. it's not closed minded, it's am opinion which I'm ont alone in. Same goes for my opinions on liquifed and their parties and the fact that Devin is an elitist who treats people like crap that aren't doing something for him. Don't worry, whatever my feelings on the promoter I love Armin and I'll definitely be at the show... he'll have my money which is the most important part, right?

YAY!!! So I'll get to personally thank you for making it possible for me to tune into ASOT every week you have no idea how happy it makes me

HMMMMM I wonder how long a drive it would be to get to this club from Orlando?! Any1 have an idea? If some1 would come with-- I would totally go. lol

*Rach

about 9 hours

i'm so there, maybe even for pvd too. wooohooooo

it appears that Armin won't be stopping in Miami on this tour.... his dates have been announced and miami isnt on there... maybe it's still to come, but so far.... nada.....

anyhooo i'm happy because Oct 15th is Armin in atlanta and then exactly a month later Armin @ glow, where i will turn 20 while armin's spinning there!! YAYYYY

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Originally posted by ambs YAY!!! So I'll get to personally thank you for making it possible for me to tune into ASOT every week you have no idea how happy it makes me

it's my pleasure ambs all politics aside Armin is the greatest and it's still about the music so... find me on IM or something and I'll link you to one of my pictures so you can find me at the show

lol

liquified, if you're still reading this thread, why did you feel the need to justify yourself so much to somebody you don't even know? :P

I'm a big boy about being wrong and I'll go ahead and say I shouldn't have directly attacked Devin... I've never met him in real life and shouldn't have called him an asshole. I could have been been way more professional in disagreeing with his... style of promoting I guess you'd call it. It's just getting annoying all the good DJs coming on weekdays, plus it breaks my heart that I won't be able to broadcast any of the shows now since you're against that or whatever.
All those parties you mentioned? been to most of then (the ones I wanted to anyway) and everybody I know much preferred the parties Mirage used to throw. Maybe you had something to do with Mirage in which case I'll take back all that bad stuff I said, but I've lived in Atlata 14 years (this time) and I've only been to about 5 decent liquified shows. prove me wrong. have a party on a WEEKEND for once that's not a house/progressive/nubreed show.
oh and get your genres right it's "progressive" that's the unclear genre that every DJ who can beatmatch claims to be. Trance & energy are alive and well and very clearly defined.

btw do appreciate you bringing Scott Bond.. he's really good and I've been a big fan of his for a while.
can't go because it's a weeknight thanks.. but don't worry you'll get enough money out of me for Ferry and Armin.

on a serious note, I was impressed by the $10 presale tickets for Armin. Whoever commented on that earlier was totally right I was completely expecting the standard $20 or more. $10 is unheard of for Armin and that's impressive. credit where credit's due man.

anyway, very much look forward to meeting the TA's and all the other Armin lovers at the show.

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Originally posted by E-vangelist I only like trance. it's not closed minded,

I'd say it is.

Not everyone likes the same things, so why would he just want to bring in trance DJs? My policy on music is laid out in my sig.

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Originally posted by DaveSaenz I'd say it is. Not everyone likes the same things, so why would he just want to bring in trance DJs? My policy on music is laid out in my sig.

lol, actually opinions on music are just that... OPINIONS. you don't deserve to judge me just because I only like trance just like I don't judge you or anybody else on what genres they prefer.

the only reason I'm responding to this post is because NOWHERE in any of my comments to liquified did I say anything about only wanting them to bring trance shows. DaveSaenz just TOTALLY pulled that out of his ass. if anything I wish liquified would stick to the house/prog/nubreed and AWAY from trance.


anyway, I'm done. I said my peace and apologized to Devin for overreacting and I already hate myself for dragging down an Armin themed thread into useless bickering. You won't hear from me again on this thread, I swear. anybody has anything they want me to read PM me.

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Originally posted by E-vangelist liquified, if you're still reading this thread, why did you feel the need to justify yourself so much to somebody you don't even know? :P

I wasn't commenting about anything personal about you so it doesn't matter if i know you or not. The only thing i said that was remotely directed towards you was the comment about only liking one genre and i thought that was closed minded but that was a genral statement and not directed towards any one individual. I never said one deragotory statement about you in the thread so like i said it doesn't matter if i knew you or not. What i did feel that needed addressing was the broad accusations that you were making about Liquified without real facts to back it up, and i have those real facts which you obviously did not. So i thought it needed addressing.

I'm done with that conversation though, but i am very up for the conversation about music and only listening to one genre if you are still up for some musical conversation.

My friends from atlanta tell me that you have not brought any good shows to that city except tiesto for yrs. They complain to me that they don't get good trance dj's and could you please make them stop damnit because my ears have taken enough abuse, I tell them to visit toronto because we get better dj's imo but that won't stop them, so bring quality trance dj's to shut them UP!.

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Originally posted by torontotrance My friends from atlanta tell me that you have not brought any good shows to that city except tiesto for yrs. They complain to me that they don't get good trance dj's and could you please make them stop damnit because my ears have taken enough abuse, I tell them to visit toronto because we get better dj's imo but that won't stop them, so bring quality trance dj's to shut them UP!.

LOL torontotrance. Your friends are all right... which I think was one of my points that got lost back in the shuffle. I was all set to forget this thread then someone linked me to your post.. nice one but we want him to NOT bring trance shows and let the good promoters get them "A" for effort though


devin you're full of crap. I tried to make nice but there's absolutely nothing wrong with preferring one genre of electronic over another so there's no discussion there. We all have our preference. my "broad accusations" were based on the "fact" that you haven't brought shit for trance events in YEARS (obligatory 'except for tiesto') and I sure as hell haven't seen one on a weekend. Put your money where your mouth is and quote my challenge to bring a decent trance event on a weekend.

I was wrong before. this flaming stuff is fun I can see why some people get into it. and all before my second cup of coffee too alright I have a station to run I'm out.

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Originally posted by torontotrance My friends from atlanta tell me that you have not brought any good shows to that city except tiesto for yrs. They complain to me that they don't get good trance dj's and could you please make them stop damnit because my ears have taken enough abuse, I tell them to visit toronto because we get better dj's imo but that won't stop them, so bring quality trance dj's to shut them UP!.

Toronto, we at Liquified do events for all diffrent genres, not just one in paticular. Here is a sample of who we have brought in the past 12-20 months......

(note i know i am missing a few but this is off the top of my head)

Sasha
John Digweed
Tiesto
Timo Maas
Carl Cox
Deep Dish
LTJ Bukem
Dave Seaman
Sander Kleinenberg
Steve Lawler
Anthony Pappa
George Acosta
Hybrid
Terry Francis
Doc Martin
DJ Dan
Mr. C
Nathan Coles
Bad Boy Bill
Bad Company
Sandra Collins
Eddie Richards
Tech Itch
Dieselboy
ak1200
Dara
Sean Cusick
Dave Ralph
Simply Jeff
James Zabiela
Chris Fortier
Kazell
DJ Three
Steve Smooth
Icey

Now coming up in the next couple of months we have

Paul Van Dyk
Scott Bond
Armin Van Buuren
Timo Maas
Ferry Corsten
DJ Hype
Andy C.
Dylan
Technical Itch
Sandra Collins
Jeno
Thomas
Icey
Kazell
Lee Burridge
George Acosta
Loco Dice


Plus a few more big names that we have yet to announce.

As you can see we are not a genre specific promotional company, we bring shows to all diffrent music lovers.

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Originally posted by E-vangelist devin you're full of crap. I tried to make nice but there's absolutely nothing wrong with preferring one genre of electronic over another so there's no discussion there. We all have our preference.

I was done with it, you asked a question and i answered you. If you really thought it was over like you said you would of taken my words as it being over. Because it was.

I thought you might possibly want to have an intelligent conversation about music and your opinions on genre specific listening. I was not trying to start any flame war or anything, i was looking for a decent musical debate on a subject that we both belived in but we were on opposite sides of the fence on. I guess thats not possible, so oh well.

I don't even know how this got started or where this discussion is going anymore, but I know it had to do with me saying that liquified hasn't brought any decent trance shows to Atlanta in the past few years (except Tiesto) and the fact that now that there finally are going to be some, they're on weekdays.

just for the record devin, at NO time did I ever mention anything about wanting you to be a genre specific company... I'm not stupid. No production company anywhere could survive especially as long as liquified has if they only did 1 genre.. some other guy brought that up.
all I did was mention that for the past few years, Liquified hasn't brought any good trance it's been all OTHER genres except trance... and a big ol' THANK YOU FOR PROVING MY POINT by posting that list... not ONE single trance DJ. even on your upcoming list which should include Scott Bond, Armin van Buuren, and Ferry Corsten.
but at least we're all in agreement now

my apologies if you misunderstood, I wasn't looking for a musical debate. I know what music I like and I'm completely happy with it. Guess we were totally both on different pages. no big deal. all I would like would be some decent trance shows, in Atlanta, and on a WEEKEND for a change, which apparently Liquified isn't interested in even though it would have been nice for us fans that have normal corporate jobs. Not every raver is a candykid with nothing but time on weekdays.

i was just voicing what i was asked to voice...

btw...only one breakbeat dj....THE HORROR!!!!!!!

get adam freeland in there!!!!!!!!

yes i know what you are thinking..he dissed icey...rofl

yes i did..icey is not breaks...and sadly neither are florida breaks then again...that's a diff argument. I was only trying to shut my friends up.....but that won't happen. I'll go back n hide in my toronto forum....where we get all types of deejays....not dissing any cities btw...

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Originally posted by torontotrance i was just voicing what i was asked to voice... btw...only one breakbeat dj....THE HORROR!!!!!!! get adam freeland in there!!!!!!!!

Actually there are other breakbeat djs, Hybrid (dj set) play breaks and we also had jonathan lisle hear and he plays breaks but i forgot him from that list. Steve Gerrard was supposed to play for us recently but the venue was double booked so we had to back out. We had Uberzone right around my original time frame of 12-20 months as well.

Adam freeland was just here for our friends at the crescent room, suprisingly the turnout was low. Adam freeland is bad ass and Liquified was actually the first one to bring him to Atlanta a few years ago.

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yes i know what you are thinking..he dissed icey...rofl yes i did..icey is not breaks...and sadly neither are florida breaks then again...that's a diff argument.

Nah, i don't mind if you dissed icey, there are a lot of icey lovers and there are a lot of icey haters. Thats just the way it goes i guess. Icey has done a lot for the US scene in terms of breaks though and he's playing a lot of nu school these days. But thats just a matter of opinion.

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I was only trying to shut my friends up.....but that won't happen. I'll go back n hide in my toronto forum....where we get all types of deejays....not dissing any cities btw...

Oh atlanta gets a ton of diverse talent, that list was just who i have brought recently, not the city as a whole. I mean the amount of talent that comes through atlanta is huge, every week is packed with a variety of talent.

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Originally posted by E-vangelist all I would like would be some decent trance shows, in Atlanta, and on a WEEKEND for a change, which apparently Liquified isn't interested in even though it would have been nice for us fans that have normal corporate jobs. Not every raver is a candykid with nothing but time on weekdays.

Show me a good venue on the weekends for the shows that will allow us to do 18 and up? The majority of the fan base for Trance events are 18-25 with a large amount of that under 21. No club in this city will do 18 and up on weekends, except for Blu and i am currently waiting for them to finish the construction of their new bar, "wet", before we do anymore events there.

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Originally posted by Liquified Show me a good venue on the weekends for the shows that will allow us to do 18 and up? The majority of the fan base for Trance events are 18-25 with a large amount of that under 21. No club in this city will do 18 and up on weekends, except for Blu and i am currently waiting for them to finish the construction of their new bar, "wet", before we do anymore events there.

Seen Acosta a bunch of times, seen Icey a few times.. Icey even played some good trancey breaks sets last few times I heard him... those would be the kickass Mirage parties that I referred to earlier.
anywho,
I hear your point on the target audience.. and even though I prefer 21+ shows I have two venues for you since you ask...

The Riviera
it's even open later than Eleven50 isn't it? I very much prefer it over Eleven50, if only because the DJ isn't sitting 50 feet up in the air away from the audience... and I KNOW Armin likes to be close to the audience. Does the term "people's DJ" ring a bell? it would if you're an Armin fan He even comes down INTO the audience and dances with the crowd when he's at Glow in DC (and I've heard about him doing it in Israel and elsewhere)

and the Dekalb Atlanta Center
I know it's huge but then again we ARE talking about Armin (and Ferry), 2 of the biggest DJs in the world.. and I seem to recall Liquified throwing parties there before? maybe not

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Originally posted by E-vangelist I hear your point on the target audience.. and even though I prefer 21+ shows I have two venues for you since you ask... The Riviera it's even open later than Eleven50 isn't it? I very much prefer it over Eleven50, if only because the DJ isn't sitting 50 feet up in the air away from the audience... and I KNOW Armin likes to be close to the audience. Does the term "people's DJ" ring a bell? it would if you're an Armin fan He even comes down INTO the audience and dances with the crowd when he's at Glow in DC (and I've heard about him doing it in Israel and elsewhere)

Personally i think the riv is to small for Armin or Ferry on a weekend night. The capacity is less then eleven50's. Plus the booth at the riviera is just as far away from the crowd as the booth that we use at eleven50. We still use Riviera on certainf ridays though, we have acosta back there with another guest to be announced on friday october 24th.

Also the booth that we use for the larger shows at e50 is not that far way from the crowd at all. We do not use the booth on the balcony. We designed an entirely diffrent booth that we used for Sasha, Digweed and Tiesto now. If you were at the last tiesto show you will know the booth i am talking about and it's pretty much the same distance from the crowd as the riviera.

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and the Dekalb Atlanta Center I know it's huge but then again we ARE talking about Armin (and Ferry), 2 of the biggest DJs in the world.. and I seem to recall Liquified throwing parties there before? maybe not

The question is, is it to big? The capacity at the delkalb atlanta center is 2500. When was the last party in Atlanta that you actually saw more then 1500 people? It just doesn't happen to often anymore. Plus its outside the city and it has been proven time and time again in the past couple of years that events outside the city don't get the attendance deserved. I would hate to put someone like Armin or Ferry into a venue that was too big and it only be half full.

Blu is the prime venue, it has an amazing custom eaw avalon system in one room and a customized turbo sound in the other room. It has an amazing lighting rig, plenty of couches and nice decor, a great staff plus once the bar is finsihed it will have a full bar and be able to stay open as late as they want and still do 18 and over on fridays. (saturdays is their big night for their crowd)

yeah I have heard about Blu and I'm looking forward to it being a viable option.

basically knew you were going to say all that about the venues... they aren't MY venues so i'm not going to sit here and defend them all day, but I was at the last Tiesto show at Eleven50 and I'm gonna have to call you on that booth thing. At the riviera I reached up and shook John 00 Fleming's hand in the booth from the floor, it can't be more than 8 or 9 feet up, and at Eleven50 Tiesto was like... at least 15 or more feet up.. I can dunk a basketball and it was WAY higher than a bball goal.. and that was only from the raised floor. from the lower floor it felt more like 30... far enough to make at least everybody I knew (20+ people) feel "detached" from the dj. also heard the same thing (completely unsolicited) from multiple people up on the balcony... that's why they were up there because the main floor was chaos, packed WAY too tight so the balcony was nice. Now though the balc is going to be vip right? anyway Don't know about Sasha and Diggers cuz I'm not into them.

Dekalb center.. is it too big? I saw Oakenfold and PVD both pack it out to capacity and Armin is WAY better than both of them. combined. The people in Atlanta who know Armin are probably like me, don't care where he spins they'd go see him spin a cardboard box on a streetcorner if they had to all depends on how hard you promote it I guess but your points are valid and besides it's your party dude. The point I was trying to make was made 2 pages ago you just asked a question and those I knew off the top of my head.

you know what, while we're talking... I was brainstorming and I'm curious your thoughts on this... you're so busy looking for an 18+ venue so kids can come, but some of us don't LIKE the 18-21 methhead candykids so if the event is on a weekend and it's a 21+ party, first off I know plenty of ppl who would welcome that. Now take Eleven50 for example but it could be any club... the club's going to pack to capacity anyway because it's a weekend night. some of us would be there purely because of Armin, and the rest would just be there to be there. You still sell the same number of tickets right? and possibly even make MORE money because you're selling tix at the door for 20 or whatever a pop instead of $10 presale.
I don't claim to know a thing about being a successful promoter so seriously.. I'm just asking cuz there's probably a reason that wouldn't work that I just don't know.

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