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Why do ppl start to scream noooooooooooooo Hardstyle whenever they hear a heavy beat.
Hardstyle bashing is like getting soooooooooooooooooo old

I can still remember ppl saying that Trance Energy was more hardstyle energy *sight*, just because the dj's played hardtrance and some techno.

With shockers again: boehoe Luna spinned Hardstyle, boehoehoe.

I happen to like hardstyle, hardtrance, trance, progressive, electro, gothic, metal, uplifting-trance, phat-cow-skimmed-cream-milk-lollypop-psy-rainbow-club-melee-epic-polka-neo-tribal-acid-ultra-space-sonic-whatever-trance-as-long-it-isn't-cheese.


As long ppl listen to what they like, nothing will die, there are still parties where they play disco, dixie, charleston, wave, rock n' roll, etc...

So stop worrying and keep listening.

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Originally posted by RobertRollie I tagged along behind the Radio1 truck for alot of the loveparade, with people like fergie, pvd, jules, etc playing, again i expected a trancier day but everyone on the truck played techno all day.

What did you expect at the loveparade?

oh god people.....


trance is alive and well.

IMHO, 2003 has been better than 1999.

I am happy people aren't playing 100% melodic trance, because there are thousands of DJs who do that and its boring as fuck.

trance will not die, its more taking over. it is a growing genre of music, alot of newbies are beginning to get into it...i mean, i for one, is always trying to convert my friends to listen to trance rather than these crappy commercial music....however, i do not want trance to become commercial due to the fact that it's not going to be more special to me any longer.

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Originally posted by Mosaic trance is alive and well. IMHO, 2003 has been better than 1999.

agreed. 2003 has produced soooo many good tunes its hard to pick a top 20 let alone a top 10.
forget the name behind the tune, just listen to the damn music. Some of my fav tunes this year are produced by artists I had little knowledge of.
If this is the direction of trance, fuck I cant wait til 2004.

Many of the best tunes I have heard lately come from peeps here on TA

I totally agree with what people are saying, just look at Armin's first 2 albums and ALL the old Tiesto (Majik series) compared to what they spin now. All the big trance DJs are getting more "energetic" and/or progressive... Armin dosen't even start off slow anymore. Check out Misja Helsloot he does a great job starting slow and building a set.
You can hear him twice monthly on Tranceairwaves.com, which I simulcast on my station (ETS Global)
so come listen to Armin for ASOT next Thursday, 28 August and stick around for the Misja Helsloot.

trance will never die as long as I'm on the air I've got GREAT old trance sets going back to 99, 98 and before for example some old Dave Seaman from 2000 when he spun trance back before he turned into a House DJ. there's just too much to name here.. but my playlist is 1500 hours long and that dosen't even take into account all the live events I have almost daily so come check out ETS Global if you're a fan of Trance I guarantee you'll love it.

I agree that trance has something special...but even new tracks produced look like what was produced before...trance has not changed and thats why some people get tired and begin lisening to techno music....

trance aint dead yet......may not die......but should

***T��hNo@dd!Ct***

joke! i dont hate trance that much but still think it has to evolve..

Nu NRG style is way better (than trance) IMO

Corderoy - Sweetest Dreams

Now if that didn't flog fresh life back into a seemingly dead horse...

In my opinion, trance is getting better then before, sure 99' trance was the greatest, but think of all the young talent that's coming in now and they are absolutely fantastic!

Gabriel & Dresden, PvD, Armin, Tiesto, all of these well known producers have improved SO MUCH since the last year's.

Waited a looong time to use that picture somewhere

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Originally posted by MOSAIC IMHO, 2003 has been better than 1999.

I aggree, so many strong trance tracks released this year. Trance is not dead, its just drowned by the likes of DJ Sammy and Scooter so you have to weed out all the bullshit

Here's a trance track that will make your pants wet.
Goldenscan - Halcyon

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Originally posted by detective you I agree that trance has something special...but even new tracks produced look like what was produced before...trance has not changed and thats why some people get tired and begin lisening to techno music.... trance aint dead yet......may not die......but should ***T��hNo@dd!Ct***

If trance would die for nothing having changed, shouldn't techno die too then? I wouldn't call anything dead, because everything is evolving towards a different sound, otherwise it wouldn't be progression. If you were to pop open a song, say... Out of the Blue, that's an oldie, and compare it to Out of the Blue 2002, it sounds a bit different, right? A bit more current? Why's that? Because the sound of newer songs has infact changed there has been newer remixes (ie. Airwave/Breathing)

Anyways, I disagree with people saying all these genres are dead, I think we're all too caught up in all this "this is dead, that is dead" crap, if the music is good, listen to it and enjoy it. Why does there have to be a label on it?

I guess I am one of the few people that listen to it all. I get in moods for more melodic trance, or perhaps some hard trance. I think the best djs and sets are those that go through the entire spectrum of dance music and don't focus on one genre.

Weymouth

haha trance dead? no fkn way

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Originally posted by politicsofdancin trance will not die, its more taking over. it is a growing genre of music, alot of newbies are beginning to get into it...i mean, i for one, is always trying to convert my friends to listen to trance rather than these crappy commercial music....however, i do not want trance to become commercial due to the fact that it's not going to be more special to me any longer.

I agree with u here.

But honestly, I hope trance will not necessarily get commercial, but get played on the radio at least. It would be nice to have a station at least like ASOT or Ritz or even just local djs. . . doesnt have to be all trance 24/7. Even better, it would be sweet to see our fav djs on tv and stuff. Im sure you europeans prolly get that already, but not in the States. When i saw tiesto on cnn, i was seriously gonna tape it.
Nowadays, more and more ppl are getting a grasp on trance so i think producers are trying to reach more ppl by either going cheezy or going harder. And its apparent because djs dont play just trance. . . . they play a mix of prog, trance, house, and breaks. I dont know that many ppl anymore that can listen to trance the WHOLE night.
Im not complainin, i honestly get bored of trance if its played all night long. And from my personal tastes, its good to hear nice melodic trance hear and there, but I go clubbing to dance my ass off, not to cry to songs.

As has been said before, things are changing, I think that doing the same things for long time gets bored, but there are new producers (at least new productions) that are quite interesting, at least I'm quite happy with the last releases I've got. And I must say that I'm really a trance fan.

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Originally posted by wick haha trance dead? no fkn way

You said it best

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Originally posted by Roy123 I actually like a lot the Progressive tunes such as AS THE RUSH COMES NOTHING ( 93 RETURNING REMIX ) XPANDER ( DONT KNOW THE NAME OF THE NEW REMIX )

Ok...first of all just because Xpander is made by Sasha DOESN'T FRIGGIN MEAN ITS PROG!!! Xpander is progressive trance! Open your ears a little bit. If the BPMs below 140 to people these days they get all 'intelligent' and call it prog.

And get real; As the Rush comes is like the 'Sandstorm' of prog. It's nothing at all like what real prog is...it's definatly more trance based...

and I know "Nothing" is a great track...but it ain't the only track...there are tons more tracks that could beat that one out.

anyway...yeh trance is dying. hey-disco died and look what happened to it: trance...and trance was a hundred times better than disco...so who knows what 10 more years will bring, right?

more trance?

Trance isn't ending, it's evolving.

well......... one of my favorite topics...

Comming from a former prog-hater, I gotta tell u folks, you just need to diversify... It's one thing when you're looking for something to put you in your 'euphoria' state as x is boiling in your blood, it's another to listen to the music soberly. Here's my take. Trance is like p0rn - e.g. u see too many pics of the same stuff it gets boring. u listen to the same track progression in the same fasion and it gets dull after a while. there's no element of surprise in tracks anymore. and some tracks are like single use. e.g. it's awesome first time u hear it but next time is like watching "6th Sense" for the second time - it's no longer interesting, as the element of surprise is gone.

Here's another approach to this. Did you know that it's a lot harder to produce quality trance track than prog track? I'm not talking about ATRC, that's like 50/50 between prog/trance. I'm talking about your prog track that oakie cans, etc...?

Let's put it this way, i'm trying my hand at producing and the easiest tracks for me to create now are prog-sounding... why??? I don't have to worry tooo much about synching up your "trademark trance build-up" to MIDI/Drums and like 30 tracks that make track sound "full"... I can take my korg, hit one note with drum backing, arpegiate the crap out of it and then just tweak the knobs to modulate the sound... I can stamp out prog tracks at the rate 20/day.

One more or less "quality" trance track takes me about 2 weeks to put together, i"m not even talking about finding a unique "hook line" or fancy drum track to go with it. I'm not generalizing - there are some awesome prog that takes a serious effort to produce and is definitely hands-down brilliant but sadly they are rare to find. Also, some prog grows on you as you listen to it more than once. It all depends on tastes, mood, association with music, scene, people, environment etc...

Music always changes - it's made of waves and it is a wave that always changes. there are no two waves alike, sadly trance has taken for the most part a sadly redundant form. what sucks is that there are actually samples that allow you to "cut and paste" trance track now, instead of building it like before. as u listen to most "trance" today and it sounds the same:

drum beat===>>fade in synth line==>>raise freq==>>>intro pattern==>>>build up===>>> peak===>drop down===>>> outro pattern==>>>fade out synth==>>drum beat

take 90% of trance and you'll see the pattern.

so it all comes down to the fact that perhaps there is less quality trance produces because it is so much easier to dish out prog, considering most of trance today sounds the same?

DJ like PvD or Armin they "read" the audience. whatever audience responds to is what they play, with your "staple" tracks thrown in between. It's not that hard as you think. so, perhaps it is just that people stopped responding to trance which sounds the same?

ok, sorry for a long rant.

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Originally posted by CynepMeH Here's my take. Trance is like p0rn - e.g. u see too many pics of the same stuff it gets boring. u listen to the same track progression in the same fasion and it gets dull after a while. there's no element of surprise in tracks anymore. and some tracks are like single use. e.g. it's awesome first time u hear it but next time is like watching "6th Sense" for the second time - it's no longer interesting, as the element of surprise is gone.

Honestly, the way you described trance is similar to my take. I feel nowadays that trance has become the pop of electronica music.

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Originally posted by trance_n_dance Trance isn't ending, it's evolving.

It's not evolving, its metamorphizing.
If it's evolving, then trance would be breeding with other trance and the inferior would die as a result of the survival of the fittest. From examples such as DJ Sammy and Scooter, we can deduce that the inferior trance are NOT dying

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