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Originally posted by Mikado Nice thread breakinbeats In Canada the gov if giving industry a few hundred million to develop and refine current solar and wind power technologies which is cool. We�ve got the Kioto thingy that everyone but America singed which makes it mandatory that all vehicles and industry conform to polution and efficiency standards which is a very good start even tho its long over due. America ........ Well let�s not talk about America. Basically the ultimate thing we can do or our planet is to change our mentality and reject the consumerism that is the cause of so much waste and ignorance.

Its true, and the fact that the United States didn't sign the Kyoto Agreement, essentially makes it useless, because we out consume everyone with regards to gasoline.

Australia didnt sign it either, not that their emitions were high mind you simply because Howard id such a sheep he follows bush like a bad smell,
then he made the excuse that if the US dont sign its useless

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Originally posted by ProDiGaL Australia didnt sign it either, not that their emitions were high mind you simply because Howard id such a sheep he follows bush like a bad smell, then he made the excuse that if the US dont sign its useless

If the US destroys innocent peoples lives for oil and reconstruction contracts, brainwashes its people through the worst education/media system ever and bankrupts it self by massive over spending and terribly illegal business practices involving billions in tax evasion do u do it two?
I guess the answer is yes.........
Gook luck Ausies...... youl need it if thats the shit u follow after.

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Originally posted by PhloTron Jellyfish are nasty buggers.... Don't worry occrider....I got a bunch of them fishing last week in alaska....our fishing line would slice though them....and one was even plastered to the down rigger weight one time.... buhahahaha......of course picking off parts from the line/lure stung a bit.

Jellyfish rule. I remember one year here the sea was full of harmless large jellyfish. So people started playing with medusas instead of frizbies, balls and usual beach stuff.

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Originally posted by Mikado If the US destroys innocent peoples lives for oil and reconstruction contracts, brainwashes its people through the worst education/media system ever and bankrupts it self by massive over spending and terribly illegal business practices involving billions in tax evasion do u do it two? I guess the answer is yes......... Gook luck Ausies...... youl need it if thats the shit u follow after.

I am going to have to disagree on the education issue.. The system is flawed but it doesn't create a bunch of mindless dolts... Quite the contrary...

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Originally posted by NYGblue I am going to have to disagree on the education issue.. The system is flawed but it doesn't create a bunch of mindless dolts... Quite the contrary...

Have u ever seen "this hour has 20mins" when a reporter interviews university students and there professors ?
If u have you would know what im talking about.

The kind of mindless dolts im talking about are the kind who have degrees in math/science/computers ect but really are nothing more than a group of sheeple/****hoes/Clones and Muppets who dont really think for themselves and simply accept what 5+ hours of tv a day tell them. What im really talking about here has to do with the indoctrination or mentality that is formed when living in a specific society.

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Originally posted by Mikado Have u ever seen "this hour has 20mins" when a reporter interviews university students and there professors ? If u have you would know what im talking about. The kind of mindless dolts im talking about are the kind who have degrees in math/science/computers ect but really are nothing more than a group of sheeple/****hoes/Clones and Muppets who dont really think for themselves and simply accept what 5+ hours of tv a day tell them. What im really talking about here has to do with the indoctrination or mentality that is formed when living in a specific society.

So that is some people. You act as though that only happens in America? (just speculating.) You know Canadia aint perfect either pal.

Yes some ppl. are apolitical and allow themselves to be told what to believe. (happens EVERYWHERE) You will find most American's can think for themselves even if you don't agree with them. (And neither do I for the most part.) I find that most foreigners assumptions of the U.S. to be overly generalized and lacking in real experience in the country and with the people. As an American, you will never see me make an Anti-French statement. Because I know better than to believe all the bullshit that some politicians spew at me. Am I an exception, not really.

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Originally posted by NYGblue So that is some people. You act as though that only happens in America? (just speculating.) You know Canadia aint perfect either pal. Yes some ppl. are apolitical and allow themselves to be told what to believe. (happens EVERYWHERE) You will find most American's can think for themselves even if you don't agree with them. (And neither do I for the most part.) I find that most foreigners assumptions of the U.S. to be overly generalized and lacking in real experience in the country and with the people. As an American, you will never see me make an Anti-French statement. Because I know better than to believe all the bullshit that some politicians spew at me. Am I an exception, not really.

My beef was with the stuff which supports the idiotic nature of things like the media and the Education system. These things are controlled by the government which is what i was talking about. Im not attempting to say AMERICA SUX or is stupid ect ect. It isnt. However there is in my view allot of "brainwashing" going on with concerns to the media and education system. U say Canada aint perfect either and i agree with u completely Canada follows suit with America on allot of things. Which sort of ties into my first post about following the leader to hell.

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Originally posted by Mikado The kind of mindless dolts im talking about are the kind who have degrees in math/science/computers ect but really are nothing more than a group of sheeple/****hoes/Clones and Muppets who dont really think for themselves and simply accept what 5+ hours of tv a day tell them. What im really talking about here has to do with the indoctrination or mentality that is formed when living in a specific society.

Hey, give the Muppets the respect they deserve. Else Animal will come and whoop up on ya!



MrS

Are you true to the Environment?

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Originally posted by Mikado Basically the ultimate thing we can do or our planet is to change our mentality and reject the consumerism that is the cause of so much waste and ignorance.

I agree with this statement. I also agree with what you are saying about people believing what they are told to believe, which is wrong.

But with the education thing being wrong also. I don't agree with how you are saying it is wrong. I have lived in three different states, kindergarden through highschool, rich and poor schools, inner city and rual/suburban schools. While going to these schools i have noticed that the basis of what they teach is "Fact" and about thinking about things before making a judement. If i had not been taught to think through things, I prolly wouldn't have wanted to find out the truth and prolly not have even started this thread. Just think if there was nothing like that. Everyone would only follow the media. Kaos!
Oh and what is a dolt?

God, Environment, Trance, Fitness

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Originally posted by Mikado My beef was with the stuff which supports the idiotic nature of things like the media and the Education system. These things are controlled by the government which is what i was talking about. Im not attempting to say AMERICA SUX or is stupid ect ect. It isnt. However there is in my view allot of "brainwashing" going on with concerns to the media and education system. U say Canada aint perfect either and i agree with u completely Canada follows suit with America on allot of things. Which sort of ties into my first post about following the leader to hell.

Ok, I can agree with this. There certainly is a lot of brainwashing going on in the media. The education system brainwashes to a point. I think in the Universities you will find it is more liberal and therefore more thought-provoking. At least at my school, professors have opened my eyes to things I have never noticed before both about American Society and how we view the rest of the world, which has significant flaws. So in the end yes, your statement above holds true in my eyes.

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Originally posted by NYGblue So that is some people. You act as though that only happens in America? (just speculating.) You know Canadia aint perfect either pal. Yes some ppl. are apolitical and allow themselves to be told what to believe. (happens EVERYWHERE) You will find most American's can think for themselves even if you don't agree with them. (And neither do I for the most part.) I find that most foreigners assumptions of the U.S. to be overly generalized and lacking in real experience in the country and with the people. As an American, you will never see me make an Anti-French statement. Because I know better than to believe all the bullshit that some politicians spew at me. Am I an exception, not really.

This happens outside of america????

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]Originally posted by TheDemon Just proves how biased and stupid the Americans can be. Just because France didn't help them out with the Iraq war doesn't mean that they have to take it personally. But as usual that is the US and they're too iggnorant for their own good.

At any rate, I guess many people missed the point I was trying to make when I posted my Pol Pot quote in the education thread. Drug_Tito is most certainly correct in his statements in that the education system is designed to encourage thought and from then on it is the STUDENT'S responsibility to propogate growth. What, is mommy and daddy supposed to walk you hand in hand through every thought process???

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Originally posted by NYGblue I think in the Universities you will find it is more liberal and therefore more thought-provoking. At least at my school, professors have opened my eyes to things I have never noticed before both about American Society and how we view the rest of the world, which has significant flaws. So in the end yes, your statement above holds true in my eyes.

Ok do u think the actual material studied is all that it could be?
This might be a stupid question because it depends on what u know and how it compares to what uve been taught.

Mikado, the stuff we read is at the professors discretion (for class that is). What we read depends on what they think is good we read. They have a lot of leeway with this and given the class, they can pretty assign us anything without the school telling them not too. So yes I would generally say it is up to par, so far. I think you need to realize that the Universities in this country, especially the private ones do a good job. It is up to the students to push themselves to learn more about their surroundings and the world. Despite all of that you will find people who are what you might call "sheep". Or they might be thinking people who hold a different opinion from you despite having read and seen the same things you have. It happens you know..

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Originally posted by Mikado Ok do u think the actual material studied is all that it could be? This might be a stupid question because it depends on what u know and how it compares to what uve been taught.

No one can teach everything. For example, we are learning new things right now as we speak, how could we teach that to everyone right now. In the united states the major majority of the population learns the most part of what they know in highschool and below. Highschool and below is free in this country. This schooling teaches you to learn and want to find out more about the truth of your surroundings. Taking the next step, going to college, is basically wanting to find out more about things. A good percentage of people in this country don't take that step because they don't want to find out more. You basically have to want to know about the truth to want it and believe it. For example, one of the harder places to teach to want to do this is an innner city school. The reason is, is that there are other things people are worring about before everything else. Like people bringing guns to school, drugs, and fights. Shure people could add more and more things to what is taught, and they do. Making a study that is all that it could be, takes money, time, practice, and People. Some of these things not all americans can afford. Also the evils of society atract people of lust and greed which doesn't allow these things. You have to want to learn the truth, you also have to make shure it is the truth. If a teacher told me something and said this is the truth i would have to go resaerch it to make shure, which i all ready do. If they put more things into the teaching i would have to spend more time making shure its the truth. I think the education system main goal is teaching me to want to do this and thats it. The education system could be better but its not worse.

God, Environment, Trance, Fitness

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Originally posted by occrider At any rate, I guess many people missed the point I was trying to make when I posted my Pol Pot quote in the education thread. Drug_Tito is most certainly correct in his statements in that the education system is designed to encourage thought and from then on it is the STUDENT'S responsibility to propogate growth. What, is mommy and daddy supposed to walk you hand in hand through every thought process???

I may have not caught on to the exact jist of your post but I was fairly sure it was along those lines....

Of course, we must remember that very little is mentioned in the American education system about the Khmer Rouge and the atrocities that they committed. I would venture a guess that most people who read that were saying to themselves: "Pol Pot? occrider is tlaking aboutsomething I have no clue about again...oh well".

MrS

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Originally posted by breakinbeats No one can teach everything. For example, we are learning new things right now as we speak, how could we teach that to everyone right now. In the united states the major majority of the population learns the most part of what they know in highschool and below. Highschool and below is free in this country. This schooling teaches you to learn and want to find out more about the truth of your surroundings. Taking the next step, going to college, is basically wanting to find out more about things. A good percentage of people in this country don't take that step because they don't want to find out more. You basically have to want to know about the truth to want it and believe it. For example, one of the harder places to teach to want to do this is an innner city school. The reason is, is that there are other things people are worring about before everything else. Like people bringing guns to school, drugs, and fights. Shure people could add more and more things to what is taught, and they do. Making a study that is all that it could be, takes money, time, practice, and People. Some of these things not all americans can afford. Also the evils of society atract people of lust and greed which doesn't allow these things. You have to want to learn the truth, you also have to make shure it is the truth. If a teacher told me something and said this is the truth i would have to go resaerch it to make shure, which i all ready do. If they put more things into the teaching i would have to spend more time making shure its the truth. I think the education system main goal is teaching me to want to do this and thats it. The education system could be better but its not worse. God, Environment, Trance, Fitness

No, most people go to college so that they can get a better job than they would have otherwise, and therefore make more money... For the most part its about $$$$

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Originally posted by NYGblue No, most people go to college so that they can get a better job than they would have otherwise, and therefore make more money... For the most part its about $$$$

Yea that is also true, Lust and greed.

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Originally posted by breakinbeats Yea that is also true. Lust and greed.

Yup thats why I am a cynical fuck...

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Originally posted by NYGblue No, most people go to college so that they can get a better job than they would have otherwise, and therefore make more money... For the most part its about $$$$

Well duh. Who's going to pay $30,000 a year for shits and giggles? That's why most universities have breath and development requirements. To ensure that students A)Know what they want to do and B) To give them a more well-rounded education. But like I said before, ultimately it's the student's responsibility to broaden their horizons.

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Originally posted by occrider But like I said before, ultimately it's the student's responsibility to broaden their horizons.

I agree with this statement. I don't know about the shits and giggles though.

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