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YaleTrance's posts are great. They're pretty much the same as everyone elses (that has a clue of course) but made about 50 times as long, and throws in some long words and without fail manages to write something about his great education in music.

So yea, go YaleTrance!

Thanks guys. Sorry if I sound arrogant sometimes, that's what happens when someone ticks me off.

Anyways, I have no interest in downplaying VdM's work. I actually enjoy some of his tracks, even if they are not my cup of tea. Stuff like Nexus Asia and Crystal Clouds doesn't seem to impress me that much, even if they are more "layered" than the typical Tiesto track. Over-layering is easy to do(to the point that producers try to stress this in order to sound more progressive, which in turn is just pretentious because it sounds forced), minimalism and subtleties in the buildup/breakdowns are underrated. This is why I would call Traffic or Nyana more deep, soulful and original tracks than anything VdM has ever done. But hey, that's just my opinion.

Every producer is better than tiesto. Tiesto has made only few good tracks..

Relaxing thread.... funny how YaleTrance is eating all the TA Flamers

tiesto is amazing
vdm is amazing

so they're both =

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Originally posted by jamiepollock643 omg! u cannot be serious......... i mean nuthin agaisnt vincent de moor hes a good producer but u have got to be insane to say hes better than tiesto. tiestos productions sur-pass anyones ok traffic not everyone likes but its a massive new step for tiesto but u listen to magik journey urban train lethal industry obsession dallas 4pm in my memory flight 643 traffic nyana aswell as all his amazing work remix wise! tiesto imo is the best producer out there today and has been for some time not one of his tracks sounds alike which no matter how hard u try u cannot say about any other trance producer/dj!

good examples, considering he didnt make all those himself

Re: How many agree that Vincent de Moor a better producer than Tiësto ?

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Originally posted by kevmetric ... I think Tiesto is a commercial phenomenon, that reminds me of a Coca Cola beverage ... he's a DJ that's "clean" , "popular" "mainstream" a "good money maker", good "crowd drawer", etc. However, Vincent de Moor, as a producer, is superior, for the music alone ...

U CAN'T COMPARE THE 2!

BY THE WAY, I THINK U OPINION ABOUT TIESTO IS WAYYYY OFF.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike Its all about Vincent De Moor, altho i hear he is a complete arse to work with :\

Yeah, such a shame that is. Well, as long as he can work with himself I'll be satisfied...

I prefer De Moor's productions to Tiesto's.

I think most credits for tiesto productions are for his engineer, cause without this guy his productions would be shite hahahaha

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Originally posted by TheLime Every producer is better than tiesto. Tiesto has made only few good tracks..

Uhhh Yeah and how old are you I don't think you have heard of collaberations like Kamaya Painters and Gouryella also he has done lots of solo productions and not to talk about his remixes!!!

Tiesto made lots of good productions and remixes!!! IMO he def beats VDM not that he hasn't made any good tracks but Tiesto made a lot more good tracks!!!!!

cant even compair the two so to put the icing on the cake......

i agree with some of this, and some not.. like on all his tracks where he has gotten help from, he DOES credit the people who did help him, as shown inside the little books on the DJ Tiesto CD's... i think just most people overlook that and try to state that hes all bad...

but on the main topic, VDM better than Tiesto? you have got to be kidding me... if VDM is better than Tiesto, then why isnt he #1? Tiestos been in the scene for so long and has had a far better career than VDM. I've never heard a liveset from VDM before.

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Originally posted by DJ Tyler I've never heard a liveset from VDM before.

That's because he isn't a DJ.

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Originally posted by Fundamental That's because he isn't a DJ.

indeed...


notice the topic... which is a better producer?

this has nothing to do with tiestos djing skills, and if it was then he would loose to a 12 year old with beltdrives.

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Originally posted by hadi ****** good examples, considering he didnt make all those himself

god u really have no fuking clue do u!

lethal industry
flight 643
urban train
nyana
in my memory
dallas 4pm
traffic

ALL DONE BY TIESTO AND TIESTO ALONE!!!!

magik journey
obsession

THE 2 MIN INTRO TO MAGIK JOURNEY IS GEERT HUUNICK(i cant remember how to spell his name)

and junkie xl said in a interview he had such little input with obsession hes suprised he was even mentioned!!

SO DONT TALK UTTER BULLSHIT ABOUT TIESTO NOT MAKING HIS OWN TRACKS!!! AND DONT TALK CRAP ABOUT HIM NOT BEING A GOOD DJ CAUSE U REALLY DO MAKE UR SELF SOUND LIKE THE MOST IDIOTIC PERSON ON EARTH!! YEAH HES CRAP THATS Y HE IS NO.1 DJ IN THE WORLD IM SOOO FUKIN SICK OF THIS OH LETS SLAG TIESTO FOR EVERYTHING SIMPLY BECAUSE HES NO.1 THAT JUSTIFIES OUR TOTALLY FUKIN STUPID REMARKS. SERIOUSLY FUKING GROW UP AND STOP BEING SUCH COMPLETE ASSHOLES. TIESTOS NO.1 SIMPLY BECAUSE HE IS THE BEST NO OTHER DJ IN THE WORLD IS BETTER

CANT WAIT TO SEE THE REPLIES OH OH IM BETTER! ETC ETC WELL IF U "THINK" U ARE Y ARENT U PLAYING ALL OVER THE WORLD TO THE MILLIONS THAT TIESTO PLAYS TO!

AND I COULDNT GIVE A FLYING FUK IF U DONT LIKE WOT IM SAYING BECAUSE ITS THE TRUTH. STOP FUKIN ATTACKING EVERY LITTLE THING HE DOES SIMPLY BECAUSE HES NO.1!! IM SOOO FUCKING SICK OF IT

SO GROW UP U PATHETIC LOOSERS!

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Originally posted by jamiepollock643 god u really have no fuking clue do u! urban train

Kid Vicious - Reform

How can someone clame who's better and who's worse if they're different?

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Originally posted by jamiepollock643 THE 2 MIN INTRO TO MAGIK JOURNEY IS GEERT HUINICK(i cant remember how to spell his name)

I didn't know that

"Destination Sunshine" (tiesto's POWER mix).....

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Originally posted by joeh152 Kid Vicious - Reform

AH NO ULL FIND THAT its dj tiestos remix that sounds like urban train cause thats the track he was working on at the time but he didnt like it that much so he decided to use the sounds with kid vicious to produce and remix REFORM. but after that he decided to make urban train anyways so he didnt steal the fukin melody etc etc it was originally planned for urban train!!

oh and by the way its liek totally unheard of for another artist to request a remix in the same style as one of the remixers tracks isnt it. i mean ive never ever seen that!!

jesus christ again idiots thinking oh ill bash him because his remix sounds like one of his tracks. WELL GO BASH EVERY OTHER FUKIN ARTIST!

IM SOOO FUKIN SICK OF THIS SHIT!

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Originally posted by jamiepollock643 IM SOOO FUKIN SICK OF THIS SHIT!

Do yourself and all of us a favour and leave or not post in threads like this

heres an idea.........um no!

im stating my view and saying i am sooo sick of some people on this board slagging tiesto for every little thing he does it doesnt matter to them at all, they dont care they just want to try and be cool and jump on the bandwagon.

now i fully admit that i took it out of purportion and i apologise fully for all the caps and the cursing. again im sorry for this!

And i have to say that vincents new track is total garbage u think this guy produces better tracks that tiesto! imo vincents new one sounds very very amateurish and bland with no excitment wot so ever to it.

Again people i totally apologise for my outburst been a looooong ass day just so im sorry

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Originally posted by jamiepollock643 heres an idea.........um no! im stating my view and saying i am sooo sick of some people on this board slagging tiesto for every little thing he does it doesnt matter to them at all, they dont care they just want to try and be cool and jump on the bandwagon. now i fully admit that i took it out of purportion and i apologise fully for all the caps and the cursing. again im sorry for this! And i have to say that vincents new track is total garbage u think this guy produces better tracks that tiesto! imo vincents new one sounds very very amateurish and bland with no excitment wot so ever to it. Again people i totally apologise for my outburst been a looooong ass day just so im sorry

what VDM tracks are you talking about that sound amateurish? crystal clouds? nexus asia? you don't have to hate on VDM just cuz everyone is hating on your god tiesto

I'd love to say one of them is better than the other but it is not so. It's been said so many times here and It is not further from the truth. You can not really compare Tiesto and VDM. IMO they're styles are way so different. Even though both are trance, to me, its like they are completley differnt styles and forms of music. If honestly there were only 2 cds on this world. One VDM and Tiesto, I would not konw wich one to choose.

ok first off i wasnt hating on vdm simply because everyone is slaggin tiesto, not at all im not that bad!! lol

but in my opinion crystal clouds wasnt good at all if sumone told me it was by vdm i wud have said bullshit, it just sounds very....i dunno its hard to describe! i just dont like it and i think he can do a shit load better.

secondly about the remix of reform, i read it a long time ago like a month or 2 after it came out so i cant remember exactly all that was said but i no for certain that tiesto already had that melody and sound cause that was to be urban train, but when he was asked to do the remix he decided to use those sounds etc for the remix as he wasnt to happy with the production that was urban train, but after he remixed he said he grew to really like the melody and decided to go ahead and reease urban train and he said he was shcoked at the response cause thats now creditied by most as his best track.

dont quote me on where i read it im like 75% sure it was an interview on a website but not fully certain. but they worked closly 2 gether on that one thats y they sound alike, i no that much.

but come on do u honestly think that nexus asia, crystal clouds etc etc is better than urban train,flight 643,nyana etc etc imo these tracks simply are in a league of their own!

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Originally posted by jamiepollock643 ok first off i wasnt hating on vdm simply because everyone is slaggin tiesto, not at all im not that bad!! lol but in my opinion crystal clouds wasnt good at all if sumone told me it was by vdm i wud have said bullshit, it just sounds very....i dunno its hard to describe! i just dont like it and i think he can do a shit load better. secondly about the remix of reform, i read it a long time ago like a month or 2 after it came out so i cant remember exactly all that was said but i no for certain that tiesto already had that melody and sound cause that was to be urban train, but when he was asked to do the remix he decided to use those sounds etc for the remix as he wasnt to happy with the production that was urban train, but after he remixed he said he grew to really like the melody and decided to go ahead and reease urban train and he said he was shcoked at the response cause thats now creditied by most as his best track. dont quote me on where i read it im like 75% sure it was an interview on a website but not fully certain. but they worked closly 2 gether on that one thats y they sound alike, i no that much.

But the original mix of Re-Form sounds like Urban Train also, not just the Tiesto remix. Not trying to slag anyone off either, but what you said doesn't really compute...

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