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Posted by kr00t0n on Sep-15-2003 12:30:

quote:
Originally posted by chjo
Last time I heard Gielen live I was high.. was flying around on green clouds (laser). The natural drug, music for me, is harmless. I've done some drugs, but never agin. No need to...
Drugs will eventually kill you


Anything will eventually kill you, as well will all eventually die.
The tricks is not thinking about that, makes life do much more livable

and the music isnt as hamrless as you think, a regular clubber of a mere year has already done loads of damage to their hearing


Posted by 'mju:zik on Sep-15-2003 12:55:

yo I've smoked the rocky road spliffs before hehe but haven't touched lady h rock really isn't that bad I wouldn't put it up there with H that's for sure


Posted by mute79 on Sep-15-2003 13:02:

i know a couple of people that were hooked on horse... one of them was on it for 5 years... he goes its a really mellow high, it calms you totally and you're not really fucked in the head like other drugs... they both said its really physically addictive and hard to get off of it... they said it was like doing morpheine...

meh, i just stick to e


Posted by samhouse on Sep-15-2003 13:24:

badddd
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interesting post....
stemming from this..

"why do we do drugs? this is for those that do...why do we do it?"

i tried answering that after labour of love here in toronto as i sat by the pool with a buddy...and for the love of me i couldnt find an answer. AN HONEST answer...theres a very thin line between telling yourself something just so that you'll believe it and ACTUALLY believing it...or something......oh well. ima think about it mroe and post agian/


Posted by joeh on Sep-15-2003 13:26:

quote:
Originally posted by InfiniteSquare
heh

didn't know technaut did heroin - i knew he loved his freebasing but heroin???


Yeh, he's a full on, blown out skagbag.


If you rememeber Trainspotting:

he isn't like Renton, the guy well all loved and got off the skag.
he isn't like Sick Boy, the guy who we didnt love, but could get off the skag whenever he liked, and was cool.

he's like that ginger twat, who couldnt get off the stuff, had aids, had a kitten which shit all over his flat, and the cat shit ended up killing him, he is this guy.


Posted by Technaut on Sep-15-2003 13:29:

IM NOT A FUCKING SMACKHEID !@#!


Posted by Sand Leaper on Sep-15-2003 13:29:

quote:
Originally posted by joeh
Yeh, he's a full on, blown out skagbag.


If you rememeber Trainspotting:

he isn't like Renton, the guy well all loved and got off the skag.
he isn't like Sick Boy, the guy who we didnt love, but could get off the skag whenever he liked, and was cool.

he's like that ginger twat, who couldnt get off the stuff, had aids, had a kitten which shit all over his flat, and the cat shit ended up killing him, he is this guy.


Post of the week


Posted by Lira on Sep-15-2003 14:36:

quote:
Originally posted by joeh
Ask Technaut

quote:
Originally posted by joeh
Yeh, he's a full on, blown out skagbag.


If you rememeber Trainspotting:

he isn't like Renton, the guy well all loved and got off the skag.
he isn't like Sick Boy, the guy who we didnt love, but could get off the skag whenever he liked, and was cool.

he's like that ginger twat, who couldnt get off the stuff, had aids, had a kitten which shit all over his flat, and the cat shit ended up killing him, he is this guy.



He should change his nick to Smackheid


Posted by DJ-Fuq on Sep-15-2003 14:46:

Some of the posts in this thread r really funny, other r just pathetic. Id try heroin, id smoke it or if i could get a diamorphine pill id take that but wouldnt inject it. Ive done morphine and it was fucking amazing, and considering heroin is about twice as strong that would just be unbelievable.
It would be well worth trying once, ur not gonna get addicted unless u use it a few times at least.


Posted by butterfly on Sep-15-2003 14:48:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Fuq
Some of the posts in this thread r really funny, other r just pathetic. Id try heroin, id smoke it or if i could get a diamorphine pill id take that but wouldnt inject it. Ive done morphine and it was fucking amazing, and considering heroin is about twice as strong that would just be unbelievable.
It would be well worth trying once, ur not gonna get addicted unless u use it a few times at least.


addiction depends on your personality. i know ppl who have done heroin many times and are away from it now and fine. and others who cant bring their lives back together. it is sad to be touched by that.


Posted by joeh on Sep-15-2003 14:51:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Fuq
It would be well worth trying once, ur not gonna get addicted unless u use it a few times at least.



Actually thats bs

About 10 years ago a journalist was doing a TV program about heroin addiction, and to see what it was like he took it once.

10 years later he is a smackhead living in a shitty flat. There was a program on TV about it.


Posted by DJ-Fuq on Sep-15-2003 14:53:

quote:
Originally posted by butterfly
addiction depends on your personality. i know ppl who have done heroin many times and are away from it now and fine. and others who cant bring their lives back together. it is sad to be touched by that.


Still, u cant get addicted if u dont use it more than a couple of times. After the first/second time u would want to do it again because its so good, but by then ur still not addicted so u dont have to.
When it comes to it fucking up ur life, its the drug laws that do that, not the actual chemicals. If heroin was legal and cheap to get for addicts, theres no reason why they couldnt live normal lives just like nicotine addicts.


Posted by DJ-Fuq on Sep-15-2003 14:55:

quote:
Originally posted by joeh
Actually thats bs

About 10 years ago a journalist was doing a TV program about heroin addiction, and to see what it was like he took it once.

10 years later he is a smackhead living in a shitty flat. There was a program on TV about it.


That doesnt mean he was addicted, like i said in my other reply u really would WANT to take it again after doing it once or twice because of how good the feeling is but u certainly will NOT get withdrawl symptoms


Posted by butterfly on Sep-15-2003 14:58:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Fuq
Still, u cant get addicted if u dont use it more than a couple of times. After the first/second time u would want to do it again because its so good, but by then ur still not addicted so u dont have to.
When it comes to it fucking up ur life, its the drug laws that do that, not the actual chemicals. If heroin was legal and cheap to get for addicts, theres no reason why they couldnt live normal lives just like nicotine addicts.


you have a warped perspective, my friend. there is more physical damage to an opiate addiction than the withdrawal sypmtoms.


Posted by joeh on Sep-15-2003 14:58:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Fuq
That doesnt mean he was addicted, like i said in my other reply u really would WANT to take it again after doing it once or twice because of how good the feeling is but u certainly will NOT get withdrawl symptoms



I saw the program mate. He had no intention of taking it twice, but he said he had to because he felt like shit without it.


Posted by DJ-Fuq on Sep-15-2003 15:00:

quote:
Originally posted by butterfly
you have a warped perspective, my friend. there is more physical damage to an opiate addiction than the withdrawal sypmtoms.


U cant be serious, opiates r very safe drugs if taken properly.


Posted by DJ-Fuq on Sep-15-2003 15:09:

quote:
Originally posted by joeh
I saw the program mate. He had no intention of taking it twice, but he said he had to because he felt like shit without it.


Hmm, sounds very strange. Its more likely that that was due to the normal side effects which me mistook for withdrawls. Since he was a first time user its likely that he wouldve had some. It can make u constipated, itchy, feel sick etc. Its also possible (especially if he injected) that contaminants in the heroin made him feel unwell.


Posted by netw3rkd on Sep-15-2003 15:28:

time to give you a real answer


heroin...what is it like...well


when you take it...its like smoking 50 joints at once ...you are so relaxed...to you everything in the world is ok...there is no problems...everything that is a problem to you is no more...you are happy...you love life...etc...

probs with it though...you CAN become addicted to it...and easily on the first try...just like meth....i tried it once...now im an addict...i've done heroin a couple times...its allright...nothing amazing...i wouldnt reccommend using it due to the risk of addiction...but its your choice and nobody can stop you...

if you want more information on heroin...i highly reccommend you click here..: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/heroin/heroin.shtml

aplz.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Sep-15-2003 15:32:

quote:
Originally posted by netw3rkd
time to give you a real answer


heroin...what is it like...well


when you take it...its like smoking 50 joints at once ...you are so relaxed...to you everything in the world is ok...there is no problems...everything that is a problem to you is no more...you are happy...you love life...etc...

probs with it though...you CAN become addicted to it...and easily on the first try...just like meth....i tried it once...now im an addict...i've done heroin a couple times...its allright...nothing amazing...i wouldnt reccommend using it due to the risk of addiction...but its your choice and nobody can stop you...

if you want more information on heroin...i highly reccommend you click here..: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/heroin/heroin.shtml

aplz.



is at as a ddictive as online suicides...YOU OWE US ONE SUICIDE!


Posted by INDY on Sep-15-2003 15:33:

quote:
Originally posted by netw3rkd
time to give you a real answer


heroin...what is it like...well


when you take it...its like smoking 50 joints at once ...you are so relaxed...to you everything in the world is ok...there is no problems...everything that is a problem to you is no more...you are happy...you love life...etc...

probs with it though...you CAN become addicted to it...and easily on the first try...just like meth....i tried it once...now im an addict...i've done heroin a couple times...its allright...nothing amazing...i wouldnt reccommend using it due to the risk of addiction...but its your choice and nobody can stop you...

if you want more information on heroin...i highly reccommend you click here..: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/heroin/heroin.shtml

aplz.


kris, i surely hope you got all these information in that link????


Posted by Technaut on Sep-15-2003 15:33:

aplz couldnt handle teh smack


Posted by igottaknow on Sep-15-2003 15:35:

Logically speaking u cant get addicticted to heroin taking once, to be addicted you have to take it on a regular basis. Ur probably referring to the slippery slope of 1, 2, 5 etc. It probably has more to do with if heroin fills a void of in your life which you can't live without


Posted by netw3rkd on Sep-15-2003 15:37:

quote:
Originally posted by politicsofdancin
kris, i surely hope you got all these information in that link????



as i said, ive tried it twice ;p


and wtf is this stuff about technaut being a smack head?

does he use dope / heroin?


Posted by sykadelik on Sep-15-2003 15:45:

quote:
Originally posted by netw3rkd
as i said, ive tried it twice ;p


and wtf is this stuff about technaut being a smack head?

does he use dope / heroin?


Both, at the same time


Posted by DJ-Fuq on Sep-15-2003 15:45:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
Logically speaking u cant get addicticted to heroin taking once, to be addicted you have to take it on a regular basis. Ur probably referring to the slippery slope of 1, 2, 5 etc. It probably has more to do with if heroin fills a void of in your life which you can't live without


The amount u take is an important factor too, somebody who takes (injects) 10mg (pure diamorphine) 5 times would probably be as likely to get addicted as somebody who takes 5mg 10 times.


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