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Posted by Yoepus on Sep-17-2003 01:00:

I can't believe I am being beat by the likes of Ahlamalek, melech_mike, and DJBARON (no offense to any of you of course )

It so humiliating



... btw... is it just me, or does anyone have a strange sense of deja vou steming of the California circus, *ahem* I mean re-election with this poll?


Posted by DJ Sarah H on Sep-17-2003 11:49:



This is a waste of time to be quite frank.

The mods of this board recomend to Swamper who they think should be a mod of a forum and I'm afraid there is no way someone who had been previously suspended from the boards is gonna be a mod
That would apply for example in melech_mikes case.

The current mods are active here, the main active mod here being Blik and we DO keep an eye on you.
But as this is a complicated forum with many cultures and beliefs and passions involved it will get heated.

This we knew when the forum was 1st introduced to TA and it was understood that those wishing to post in this forum should also be aware of the fact that they could get flamed for thier belief, just read the forum description . . .

Our main concern here is that there is no racisim, that will NOT be tolerated under any circumstances!

if you feel a mod has overlooked an issue then PM one of the mods of this forum and they will look into it.

Poll closed


Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on Sep-17-2003 13:22:

So much for democracy. Ah, well, at least you've shown that you do visit the forum from time to time.

And btw, mike's nomination was supposed to be a joke.


Posted by Blik on Sep-17-2003 13:43:

quote:
Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
So much for democracy. Ah, well, at least you've shown that you do visit the forum from time to time.

And btw, mike's nomination was supposed to be a joke.


it is actually a "responsible job" to moderate, Mike's nomination is silly

the problem with this forum is that you have got to have a great knowledge about certain things. That's why it seems like the mods don't moderate this forum, but we do try.

and the mods are already talking about getting a new mod for this forum, someone who has the knowledge and reacts calm in every object.

be calm and you will see


Posted by occrider on Sep-17-2003 13:46:

quote:
Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
And btw, mike's nomination was supposed to be a joke.


It was????

Well, I think we have accomplished something in that perhaps the mods will be somewhat less tolerant of the constant, petty bickering that's been going on. It's not like we need a mod 24/7 ... asides from the usual suspects, the forums haven't been too bad as of late.


Posted by TranceGiant on Sep-17-2003 17:01:

Right, the "mods" keep an eye on us. I think there's a common misconception of the word moderator: A moderator should..em..right! moderate. Meaning that he should intervene way before a situation totally escalates. He shouldn't be the one who finally closes or ends things but ought to be there, in time, to prevent conflicts from getting out of control in the first place. This means he must be totally aware of any POTENTIAL flame-orgies, realizing that a thread is already fucked and destroyed doesn't require that many skills. I don't udnerstand you mods: I have absolutely nothing against you and totally udnerstand if u cant be here that often since u also have other things to control, so why do u insist on this very position here when you know there are people in this area who dedicate much more time to this place and could detect the things I mentioned above. They could *immediately* react instead of stepping in when it's too late anyway. Firstly because of the greater amount of time they spend here and secondly due to the fact that they already know each member and topics which could lead to escalation. Tjey simply "live" the debates on here and could therefore do a great job in improving the atmosphere on here. Once you have some kind of hierarchy, some "respect" person, you will more easily adjust your behavior accordingly.

End of rant.


Posted by occrider on Sep-17-2003 17:27:

Well, although I would like the mods to visit here a little bit more often, I wouldn't really want them to baby us and control the threads so to speak. There's no reason for us to wear kid gloves in here, we're all adults. If we think another person's argument is idiotic then I feel that we should have the right to express that opinion. I don't think moderators should necessarily step in at that point and tell us to play nice like we're a bunch of children. But some behaviour definetely could use more mod interaction. Thread spamming being one of them, those marathon flame threads between the Palestinain/Israeli camps, and posts made with the intent to merely attack and provoke a person rather than actually discuss the issue come to mind. I think that when the threads degenerate into becoming personal attack, after personal attack, etc., with the issue originally being discussed being left behind pages ago, then closures/warnings should ensue. However, little spats like Yoepus vs. Tathi were relatively ok imo.

But however the mods decide to do it, I just want them to be fair (and they have been as of late). I kind of complained about the issue of fairness months back, and I would still prioritize that over anything else. If they're going to be relatively lax with the forum and only mod when things get completely out of control, or if they're going to heavily moderate the forums, I would just want them to apply equal treatment to all violators.


Posted by Yoepus on Sep-17-2003 18:16:

damn! After investing hundreds in my new Yoepus for Mod campagain they go and state that the re-election is unconstitutional because a certain canidate was added to the ballot that wasn't supposed to be there.


Posted by DJ Sarah H on Sep-18-2003 12:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
damn! After investing hundreds in my new Yoepus for Mod campagain they go and state that the re-election is unconstitutional because a certain canidate was added to the ballot that wasn't supposed to be there.




LOL

It's kinda hard to explain this but as said by occrider, we don't want to baby you, as adults you should not need telling to play nice, the majority of the time this forum is fairly self governing but occasionly it does need a mod to step in and say OK enough is enough.

This forum is about politics so you should apply the basic rules of politics to it, you debate and argue your issues but you all should have a basic respect for each other, sure you are passionate about your beliefs and wish to stand up for them but there is always certain protocols employed in politics.


Posted by occrider on Sep-18-2003 15:53:

Do suspensions typically last a set amount of time, or are they just determined by the mods? Asides from Mike's most recent brainfart, I thought he was actually doing pretty good in trying to avoid the typical flamewars that plague the Israeli/Pal discussions. There have definetely been some guiltier parties. I would like to see him back here after he's learned his anti-spamming lesson . Besides, who's going to maintain the honest reporting thread?


Posted by malek on Sep-18-2003 16:42:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
I would like to see him back here after he's learned his anti-spamming lesson . Besides, who's going to maintain the honest reporting thread?


are you serious? he never learned and how can the next time be different... what kind of mod would you be???

From day one he's been a racist bastard.

People don't change!


Posted by occrider on Sep-18-2003 17:18:

quote:
Originally posted by ahlamalek
are you serious? he never learned and how can the next time be different... what kind of mod would you be???

From day one he's been a racist bastard.



Besides it being a moot point now, a fair one.

I think you are blinded by his stance on the issues. He's no more racist than some of the pro palestinian members here, and they much like him, can be just as passionate.

And asides from his latest spamming, he's conducted himself rather maturely in avoiding some of the bickering that's been going back and forth as of recent. Check his latest posts. I looked all the way back to September 1st I haven't seen anything that sticks out as warranting chastisement. As a matter of fact, it looks like the worst thing he said was calling Arafat a pig. Simply compare the general content of his posts on this forum a few months ago, and look at the general content of his current posts ...

But at any rate, take it up with him when he gets back. Let him speak in his own defense.

quote:

People don't change!

Tiesto14?


Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on Sep-18-2003 19:13:

Yes, mike did show great improvement when compared to his earlier behaviour. I too believe his ban should this time not be a long one.

And about Tiesto14, well, it's too early to tell, when he was banned last time he also started nicely at first and then became even worse later on. I hope it will not be the case this time, though.


Posted by Blik on Sep-20-2003 14:27:

quote:
Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
Yes, mike did show great improvement when compared to his earlier behaviour. I too believe his ban should this time not be a long one.

And about Tiesto14, well, it's too early to tell, when he was banned last time he also started nicely at first and then became even worse later on. I hope it will not be the case this time, though.


there probably won't be a next time for Mike, he has been suspended for the 3rd of 4th time now, it has been enough...


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