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Posted by Fir3start3r on Sep-20-2003 17:39:

quote:
Originally posted by samhouse
as a person who regularly frequents BOTH scenes...gay and straight and enjoys BOTH. (Strictly music wise here people). i will point out that ive noticed in the last few months that more and more people from "both" cultures are willing to come out to a straight club (if theyre gay) or gay club (if theyre straight) simpley for the music. this is just a casual observation and i for one am glad to see minds awakening...


Actually this is quite obvious if you've ever been to Kool Haus when a major DJ is spinning...


Posted by djshan on Sep-20-2003 17:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Tordan
Dude.. don't you think that's pretty harsh? You must have talked to or just walked by 100s of gay ppl and not even known that they were gay. You weren't "ill" then were you? At first I was baffled by the whole notion of homosexuality but then I was thinking.. I like being with women and they like being with their own sex. So what's the big bloody deal? As long as it makes them happy it ain't gonna bother me or make me "ill" for that matter. The world is what you make of it buddy and if you're gonna let a stupid issue like this bother you then I pity you.


yes ive seen gay people before but not when they had sex. the sex part is wat makes me ill.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Sep-20-2003 18:15:

hahahahahah that was the most drunkin post ive ever posted in all my years of ta...rofl theres no way im editing that lol..it made no sense HAHAHAHAHA!!! fuck i love beer


Posted by DigiNut on Sep-20-2003 18:21:

What is all this BS... why do the hetero TA's care if the gay TA's want to form their own hangout group? I'm really not into Pride or anything, but don't try to cut someone up for looking for people with something in common - are you going to start complaining about Asians that hang out with other Asians? Polish people that hang out with other Poles? Black or brown people that stick together?

Give it a break... some people's posts in this thread make chris's motivation quite clear.


Posted by samhouse on Sep-20-2003 18:33:

i dont care..ill join that group
diginut makes a hell of a good point..


Posted by Vivid Boy on Sep-20-2003 18:34:

shutup and join their team then...
















this is a joke plz nobody take any offense to it...ppl are used to my twisted sense of humour others are not used to it....just a reminder


Posted by samhouse on Sep-20-2003 19:30:

FINE!!! i will


Posted by Fir3start3r on Sep-20-2003 20:41:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
What is all this BS... why do the hetero TA's care if the gay TA's want to form their own hangout group? I'm really not into Pride or anything, but don't try to cut someone up for looking for people with something in common - are you going to start complaining about Asians that hang out with other Asians? Polish people that hang out with other Poles? Black or brown people that stick together?

Give it a break... some people's posts in this thread make chris's motivation quite clear.


I guess what I was trying to say is that more segregation is not what this world needs...

But hey....each to their own...


Posted by Vivid Boy on Sep-20-2003 20:42:

and what i was basically saying is that diginut is a freak and should be segragated from the rest of the world


Posted by Fir3start3r on Sep-20-2003 21:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
and what i was basically saying is that diginut is a freak and should be segragated from the rest of the world


I mean.....look at him...

He looks like a ferret...and he's white and stuff...


Posted by charmscars on Sep-20-2003 21:29:

chris is simply trying to gather a group of ppl that are gay/gay positive. if you belonged to a group that wasn't privy to widespread acceptance you would probabaly do the same. I also think it's terribly innapropriate for those that are not gay to make sweeping claims about the 'acceptingness' of TA or society in general. He's not trying to segragate gay from stright so much as gay postive from other. I personally would rather be around ppl that are willing to accept me, rather than not- and i think that's normal.

on a side note, chrismack is such a sweetheart! I feel really lucky that i got to know him! I don't want to get all mushy and embarrass him by extolling his virtues on a public messageboard...but really, i fantastic invidual!

taraxo


Posted by charmscars on Sep-20-2003 21:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
I guess what I was trying to say is that more segregation is not what this world needs...

But hey....each to their own...


I see your point, but hopefully you can see the distinction i was trying to make in my other post

taraxo


Posted by Fir3start3r on Sep-20-2003 22:26:

quote:
Originally posted by charmscars
I see your point, but hopefully you can see the distinction i was trying to make in my other post

taraxo


But of course


Posted by chrismack on Sep-21-2003 00:32:

Wow!

Ya go away for a day and look what happens!!!

Just wanted to comment on a couple of things said so far...

Yes, I'm gay. No, I'm not without a sense of humour. And I'm not defintiely not a politcally correct kinda guy...

In my post, I didn't say I was looking to start a gay group, BTW... You'll notice I said "gay or people who are cool with the whole gay thing."

The intent was to find gay and/or gay positive TAs to hang out with sometime - people who would accept me (and my friends) for who I am without judgement, etc. I don't pretend that everyone is cool with gay people. To be honest, most of the time, I don't care how people think. But if I'm looking for friends, they pretty much gotta accept me for who I am. (and I certainly wouldn't want to be responsible for making DJ Moonshine sick, LOL).

I think the fact that some people on here have strong opinions about the post does prove my point. I'm not going to reply to anyone's specific comments, but suffice it to say I find it interesting that people who aren't gay (or even gay positive) feel it necessary to even comment on the post. I mean, it's not as if this has anything to do with you... unless it is a homophobic reaction. (and before anyone gets pissed at that, imagine the response you'd get if you said "first the black people wanted us to treat them white..." and I think you get my drift.).

Ask yourself this: If you aren't interested in the "Car Stereo for Sale" post, you probably don't reply to it. Why did you feel it necessary to reply to this one.

The truth is, I have met a lot of great TAs, and have become friends with a few of them. In a lot of these cases, I met these people off my last Gay TA post, either through the message board or in person when they saw me at some event. It's been pretty cool, because these TAs fall into the "gay positive" description, and have never made my being gay an issue.

I wish it was always the case, but unfortunately it isn't. That's why I posted the message in the first place.

Peace


Posted by Fir3start3r on Sep-21-2003 01:14:

Re: Wow!

quote:
Originally posted by chrismack
Ya go away for a day and look what happens!!!

Just wanted to comment on a couple of things said so far...

Yes, I'm gay. No, I'm not without a sense of humour. And I'm not defintiely not a politcally correct kinda guy...

In my post, I didn't say I was looking to start a gay group, BTW... You'll notice I said "gay or people who are cool with the whole gay thing."

The intent was to find gay and/or gay positive TAs to hang out with sometime - people who would accept me (and my friends) for who I am without judgement, etc. I don't pretend that everyone is cool with gay people. To be honest, most of the time, I don't care how people think. But if I'm looking for friends, they pretty much gotta accept me for who I am. (and I certainly wouldn't want to be responsible for making DJ Moonshine sick, LOL).

I think the fact that some people on here have strong opinions about the post does prove my point. I'm not going to reply to anyone's specific comments, but suffice it to say I find it interesting that people who aren't gay (or even gay positive) feel it necessary to even comment on the post. I mean, it's not as if this has anything to do with you... unless it is a homophobic reaction. (and before anyone gets pissed at that, imagine the response you'd get if you said "first the black people wanted us to treat them white..." and I think you get my drift.).

Ask yourself this: If you aren't interested in the "Car Stereo for Sale" post, you probably don't reply to it. Why did you feel it necessary to reply to this one.

The truth is, I have met a lot of great TAs, and have become friends with a few of them. In a lot of these cases, I met these people off my last Gay TA post, either through the message board or in person when they saw me at some event. It's been pretty cool, because these TAs fall into the "gay positive" description, and have never made my being gay an issue.

I wish it was always the case, but unfortunately it isn't. That's why I posted the message in the first place.

Peace


Sorry chrismack it's more a political irk I have more than a personal one against you or any gay TAs.

I'm not homophobic, I've had gays friends/associates before and they were all pretty cool (funny in fact).

I guess I was just havin' a rough day... (a 16 hr day will do that); not that I'm trying to (if you'll pardon the pun) "cover my ass" with my replies.

I guess I'm just one that sees people more than they see themselves sometimes.
Noone needs to hide behind a minority status with me because in my books... YOUZ ALL GOOD!

Hope that kinda clears things up.

I look forward to meetin' yea... and dance on!


Posted by chrismack on Sep-21-2003 01:53:

Hey Fir3start3r:

Your point is well taken. The ironic thing is that I am totally against the whole segregation thing myself (I very rarely go to gay bars, for example, cuz I prefer a mixed crowd). My gay friends usually get pissed that I won't do the gay thing with them more often.

It's more about meeting people ya feel comfortable around, that way you can just relax and enjoy the music... and be yourself.

Cheers
Chris


Posted by Vivid Boy on Sep-21-2003 01:59:

quote:
Originally posted by chrismack
My gay friends usually get pissed that I won't do the gay thing with them more often.




like playing barbies?






im sorry dude i really am it was just way too tempting please understand that it wouldnt have mattered if u were gay or not black or white...if i red someones post and something comes to me while im reading it i just say it...


Posted by chrismack on Sep-21-2003 14:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
like playing barbies?


Dude!

Ya just don't get it.

Why play with Barbies when ya can play with GI Joe Action figures.. I mean, they're totally ripped and hot. (and don't get me started on the whole uniform thing).

Barbies... sheeeesh.

You obviously have a lot to learn.


Posted by charmscars on Sep-21-2003 15:05:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_moonshine
im not gay, never was and never will. yes im aginst someone who wants to be gay with me. but im not against someone who is gay with someone else, but if u are, please make sure i dont see you bcuz i swear i will get sick and i wont be able to have sex with a women anymore. i hope no offense is taken, if so, im sorry, but i just dont want to become ill. thank you, appreciate it.



hahahahaha..i just noticed this now.


i'd just like to ask all the ugly ppl to please please NOT make out w/ your partner in front on me b/c it makes me very ill. if you are gay/straight/bi and you and your partner are hot, that's ok..but if you are ugly please please know, that I may never be able to make out w/ anyone ever again.

thanks,

taraxo


Posted by DigiNut on Sep-21-2003 16:03:

Anyhow, I'll join yer group mate; after these past couple weeks and nights out, I'm right fucking off of straight women for good!

"I'm not gay, but I'll try!"


Posted by MarkT on Sep-21-2003 18:14:

^^^ LOL Diginut

Chris! I think you know I feel close to the same way you do about the gay "scene" here...I'd be down with meeting a few like-minded homos

And yeah...it's not about "segregation"...or about beaking up a larger group...of course it doesn't matter if you're gay, straight, bi, whatever...cool people are cool people, regardless!

But, for me anyway, and I suspect for others, it's hard to find other gay guys/girls that like similar music, clubs, etc. especially when one is not "obviously" gay.

Think about it...I personally would rather not meet guys (or girls for that matter) that like to go to crappy gay clubs, hang out in the gaybourhood all the time, etc. if I could hang with people that would rather hit Guv't on a Saturday night than 5ive Just like str8 guys don't want to hit some cheese dance club and meet a girl who listens to Top 40 b.s...but you guys have the advantage of being able to assume that 99% of the people at a party at straight...

food for thought?


Posted by Vivid Boy on Sep-21-2003 18:26:

heres a question how do u people pick up other gay guys? do u guys were like a button so u know "ok this guy is gay he has the rainbow button"? is it the way a person walks talks? like i would love to know


Posted by charmscars on Sep-21-2003 18:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
heres a question how do u people pick up other gay guys? do u guys were like a button so u know "ok this guy is gay he has the rainbow button"? is it the way a person walks talks? like i would love to know


hang out in the village and go to gay bars etc..and through friends.


Posted by DigiNut on Sep-21-2003 18:36:

Plus, once you start talking to someone it's not that hard to tell (unless they are "in the closet" so to speak). But eventually a person will point out people that they think are hot, or talk about past relationships or something, and well that pretty much clears up any confusion right there eh?


Posted by MarkT on Sep-21-2003 18:47:

charmscars...that avatar is hurting my eyes

I'd bet any of you $20, you would NOT figure out I was gay from just meeting and chatting for a bit...

I actually did pick up a guy at Guv't last year (?)...whenever Ferry was here, but not recently, he was on the Gov't side (I think Luke Fair was in Kool Haus). This guy was more obviously "gay", especially since it was him and 3 girls there, lol, and he had no clue I was...we chatted for a bit about music, the club, etc., and eventually I asked him where he hung out (it was his first time at guv), and he kept avoiding the question...but I kept asking, lol...finally, and very uncomfortably, he said he was gay and named off a couple of gay bars...I said I was pretty familiar with them myself and his jaw hit the floor he was so surprised.

Yes, gay guys can be masculine, play sports, like cars, etc. etc. without being in the closet


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