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Posted by whiskers on Sep-21-2003 21:45:

quote:
Originally posted by dorifto
Most Asians here listen to Dj Sammy - heaven and say it's great while I show them tracks like Armin Van Buuren - Burned with Desire and they say it's pure crap because, according to them, "it ain't fly." Idiots.




JACK (V.O.)
We all started seeing things differently. Everywhere we went, we were sizing things up.

They hold hand grips. Jack looks up an ADVERTISEMENT; a CALVIN KLEIN ad featuring a tan, bare-chested MUSCLE STUD.

JACK (V.O.)
I felt sorry for the guys packing into gyms, trying to look like Calvin Klein and Tommy Hilfiger said they should.

JACK
(indicating the ad)
Is that how a man looks like?

Tyler looks at the C.K. advertisement and laughs.

TYLER
Ahh, self-improvement is masturbation. And self-destruction...


Posted by Psionic on Sep-21-2003 21:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Mebot
yeah it pisses me off when people say that trance or techno is very repetitive, its just bump bump bump bump over and over again...yet these are the same people that are dave matthews band fans, who have every single one of his imports, bootleg and live Cds and goes to all of his concerts.

Im not bashing DMB, i highly respect his talent and all of the other musicians in the band..but im saying that his music can sound the same, knowwhatimean?

Oh and btw I quoted u Galapidate coz it reminded me of this time i was DJing at my friends Fraternity party, it was advertised as a club night so i dropped some wicked trance tunes. This drunk girl came up to me while i was spinning and asked if I could put some "hip-hop" on. I said "sure, right after this track" she smiled, said thank u and walked away and then I just kept spinning trance. No hip hop! LMAO


Haha, way to go! On another note, DMB sucks. He's got the worst voice I've ever heard in the music business.


Posted by Lost Inhibition on Sep-21-2003 22:02:

argh ravers in these parts think only hardcore and hard house are the real kinds of music and everything else is "boring". and i used to think they were "all about the music"... rotfl what a lie... stupid asylum kids....


whiskers: for the most part yeah. i can actually think of one particular person in CT who thinks all trance is "magical, fluffy, unicorns in clouds....."blah blah blah.....if he wasnt such a good friend of mine id feel like punching him


Posted by mactheknife on Sep-21-2003 23:33:

another thing that gets me is when people call anything with a dance-y beat 'techno'...grrrrr


Posted by cryo on Sep-22-2003 00:02:

^^ soo true. My high school is pretty much every cliche HS.
All the kids listen to hip hop and rock, which i respect but when they say everything i listen to is "techno" is just annoys the shit outta me.

"its so repetitive"
"anyone can make those sounds"
"you cant dance to it"
"yea i love 'techno'"

four most used phrases. and sadly theres only a handful at my school that really know what this music is. i like being different from the rest.

I'm workin with my school to try to get different DJs to spin different music genres at school so we can fill everyone's needs than just hip hop. Hopefully i can show them what this music means to us and get some to convert


Posted by UWM on Sep-22-2003 00:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Mebot
This drunk girl came up to me while i was spinning and asked if I could put some "hip-hop" on. I said "sure, right after this track" she smiled, said thank u and walked away and then I just kept spinning trance. No hip hop! LMAO


I say that shit all the time. Or if they'll request a certain shitty song I'll say 'Oh sure I'll play that' and never do it.


Posted by shao on Sep-22-2003 02:21:

quote:
Originally posted by TigerClaw
One of the biggest things I hate what people say about the music, is when they say it sounds repetitive, which is total BS.


usually when someone says this to me, i either tell them to listen to a hip-hop instrumental or ask them what a chorus is.


Posted by mactheknife on Sep-22-2003 03:30:

quote:
Originally posted by cryo but when they say everything i listen to is "techno" is just annoys the shit outta me.


ugh, i dont know if i should be happy it's not just my school or sickened that it's a widespread epidemic


Posted by SuperFarStucker on Sep-22-2003 04:25:

I get a nice smug smile on my face when somebody starts inquiring about my music tastes and i respond very vaguely saying something like "dance music" and then there eyes get a bit bigger for a moment or two, something clicks, and they ask, much to their dilettante discredit "Oh, that techno stuff?" pause briefly and then add "yeah i listen to some of that", to which i most politely respond "Oh I don't think you would like 'real' techno (lots of emphasis on real), it's quite different than what you think." Usually the subject is dropped right then and there because they note i've seen through their thinly veiled smoke screen of knowledge. On ocassion people do ask what "real" techno is, mockingly of course, as if they knew the proper definition, and I explain (incorrectly perhaps) "it's higher-speed dance music that focuses/emphasizes (on) percussive sounds/loops more than the melody, generally."

I think people of my age group (high school kids), generally, tend to be very shallow in their musical tastes, and are taken aback by the fact I don't listen to "rap" (or, technically, the term they use now is "hip-hop" although all they listen to is "rap") or $current_hot_prog_pop_rock_band_of_this_quarter.


Posted by mndeg on Sep-22-2003 04:37:

bump for a funny thread
lmao asians listen to "techno"

west coast is so strange


Posted by dartman on Sep-22-2003 06:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Lost Inhibition
argh ravers in these parts think only hardcore and hard house are the real kinds of music and everything else is "boring". and i used to think they were "all about the music"... rotfl what a lie... stupid asylum kids....

i totally agree. i'm from western mass and the scene here sucks. its sad when the best place to buy records is Newbury Comics


Posted by Perfect_Cheezit on Sep-22-2003 06:43:

i hate it when people (even self-professed fans of trance) label eurotrash songs by Orion Too or Solid Bass or whoever as techno/trance, when in reality, its just eurotrash


Posted by Joca on Sep-22-2003 18:07:

quote:
Originally posted by moncster
And somehow, a couple beats with vocals going "fear me because i fuck hoes in my stolen cadillac" and stuff gets on the top 40


yep since top 40=crap


Posted by NYCTrancefan on Sep-22-2003 18:38:

"I tell them I listen to trance music, techno and house music, and any other genre of music as long as I like it." After all I don't like every trance song I hear and I don't hate every hip-hop or pop song that I hear. Music is Music and I just prefer the deep soulful sounds of rythm that trance evokes. Nothing like freeing the movement of your body in a packed club.


Posted by Mebot on Sep-22-2003 19:04:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
I say that shit all the time. Or if they'll request a certain shitty song I'll say 'Oh sure I'll play that' and never do it.



HAHAHAAH
i think the next time i'm DJing at a party and i'm asked to play hip hop, ill just pretend to fall asleep and slump to the floor. Then, when they're not looking, i'll slowly inch away on the floor and make my getaway!


Posted by bilange on Sep-22-2003 19:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Carona
top 40=crap


3 doors down - here without you, is a nice song that makes the top30, at least locally .

Also... whoever said 'instrumental hip hop' is funny

And when I get feedback about trance, i hear stuff like "songs are too long", "'techno' is not danceable, its too fast"..

...n00bs


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Sep-22-2003 19:57:

On the PC Gamer UK forums we were having a massive argument about this. Apparently, trance isn't music because it "isn't done on real instruments", i.e synthesisers aren't real instruments. That is, until I pointed out that an electric guitar or keyboard is also electronic and so they can't count either.

Then we said that trance is made up on keyboards. One particularly stupid rock fan decided we meant pianos and came out with this classic line:

"I didn't think there were any dance tracks with pianos in them".


Posted by Mebot on Sep-22-2003 19:57:

quote:
Originally posted by bilange

And when I get feedback about trance, i hear stuff like "songs are too long", "'techno' is not danceable, its too fast"..

...n00bs


How the fuck is techno not danceable? Techno is based on a steady 4/4 rhythm...it hard NOT to dance to it... ah i hate it when people say that


Posted by happykandy on Sep-22-2003 20:02:

Worm Popper

Stereotypes suck, but you will find them with everything. I guess it is all about perspective. I mean, to an outsider, we all look like candykids,with the bright pants, and a glowstick in our hand (which is very untrue for a lot of people), but when I look at someone who listens to rap, all I see is:
bitches and hoes that are shaking their ass in the backround

Bling bling

cars and rims

Crystal being poured on the floor

Some dude talking about all his "ice" how many bitches he has fucked, how much money he has, how many people he has killed or is going to kill...blah blah blah, you get my point. But that doesn't mean that that person is only about all that shit. Some people don't know any better and can only copy what they see...poor little fools...
Just do your best not to stereotype others and if you happen to run into those assholes who insists of catagorizing you, either educate them about our scene or smack them across their fucking face.

melissa


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Sep-22-2003 20:08:

Okay, let's write a rap record:

First up, a beat. Let's go for a really basic breakbeat made in about five seconds.
Second, a tune. Doesn't matter about it much, nobody cares about a tune in rap, do they?
Now the vocals. Hmm: fuck you ******, yeah, fuck you ******, yeah (repeat ad nauseum, i.e three seconds).

Now let's give it a stupid name everyone remembers:

50 pence- In the pub.

Done! Rap Number 1, in four easy steps.


Posted by EliPsE on Sep-22-2003 20:09:

All the fools i know say "its not real music"


Posted by bilange on Sep-22-2003 20:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Mebot
How the fuck is techno not danceable? Techno is based on a steady 4/4 rhythm...it hard NOT to dance to it...


Yeah, but anything higher than 125bpm is "way too fast!!!"


Posted by Stories on Sep-22-2003 20:27:

quote:
Originally posted by dorifto
I don't post here much but this thread made me want to post.

So about the stereotypes, I am plain sick of them.
I am Asian but I know the difference a quality track and a piece of crap 3 minute cheesefest made by "Dj Random Fancy Name."

The thing is, being Asian here in Houston, when people ask what kind of music I listen to, I say electronic dance music. However, electronica here is nothing but a bunch of cheesy breakbeat remixes of Dj Sammy, Lasgo, etc.

Most Asians here listen to Dj Sammy - heaven and say it's great while I show them tracks like Armin Van Buuren - Burned with Desire and they say it's pure crap because, according to them, "it ain't fly." Idiots.


I totally agree with you. My roommate last year bugged me so bad... I would play a quality tune like Veracocha - Carte Blanche, and he'd be like... man that's crap, listen to some good techno like... and he'd whip out a radio edit of Lasgo - Something and say that was quality and then he'd start bumping his head to it and like pump up the song. Then he'd counter me by saying, look at this, it's real techno and he'd put out Kerncraft 400 - Zombie Nation and Darude - Sandstorm... saying this were amazingly great tunes...


Posted by Evil_Gnome on Sep-22-2003 20:48:

Yeah, I was talking to my brother last night, and he said the one "anybody can make a beat over and over again...its not hard." I think that trance is one of those things you either really like you are dislike. If you dont really get into it, you wont understand it or hear any of the good stuff.


Posted by happykandy on Sep-22-2003 20:49:

Big Ears

Then he'd counter me by saying, look at this, it's real techno and he'd put out Kerncraft 400 - Zombie Nation and Darude - Sandstorm... saying this were amazingly great tunes...

yuck...I hate that shit!!! They have a radio station down here called Party 93.1 and that is all they play all fucking day long!!!
When the radio station first came out, everyone was under the impression that they would play REAL music, but they totally disappointed me and many others. Again, there are those "fools" who think that is real music and are the ones supporting the station to play crap like that. Fucking sick.

Melissa


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