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Posted by chewd0g on Jul-06-2001 08:01:

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Well.. i usually love tiesto.. he makes gr8 music, and he has sets beyond perfect.... but when i heard Magik 7.. i was hella disapointed... he had a lack choice of trax... and i really really didn't like it... but then i heard the club eau second year anniversary... OMG!!.. defenatlly one of his best sets this year!


agreed. magik 7 sucks. the tracks are good just not his style. especially following up on magik 6! magik 6 was epic greatness, epic trance at it's best (at least the tracks he could have chosen from for this album, ie the latest tracks) and then these songs were just like, ugh, no!

but then you said: C'mon... dont be stupid.. he hasn't played this tune in ages now!!...

uhm...i was told by a friend who saw him @ the Texas Zenfest June 9, 2001, he played the track that night. end of story.


Posted by Cosmo K on Jul-06-2001 09:38:

There's a lot of variance in a DJ when he plays live...

...best example I have is DJ Jean. Was at one trance gathering, and he seemed so unmotivated, he actually used the mic "Bass in the place, people!"
However, after DJ Jean LIVE! @ TranceEnergy, I gotta say the man is closer to a god! He went back to his old day DMC style mixing! He knew those tracks in and out! And what BPM was he playing at? Not 140, that's for sure! Best set I've heard in ages...

...with regards to Tiesto, he and Lars Holte of 'In Trance We Trust' fame (amongst others) played in my booth a while back... and Lars was definately the better mixer. I think most people appreciated his track choice better as well, but that's got nothing to say when they both had the same stuff with them... (or maybe it does?)

Tiesto isn't a 'creative' mixer to such a degree that some other DJ's are, but hey, trance DJ's aren't usually known as former DMC World Champs either! (That's why they put the T in trance! Or whatever...)


Posted by Cosmo K on Jul-06-2001 09:50:

Heehee... forgot to say that Tiesto isn't really up my alley at the mo either... as DJ or Producer... I loved and respect his earlier work, which was what makes us TA's, but with Flight 643? I could've played that high synth part on my gear when I was 11, honestly!
(I've worked with people like DJ Prince & Justin K. with 'Got To Have', which I've been told was No.1 on the US Dance Chart for several weeks and is one of Klubbheads favorite tracks, featured on their Desire double album from last year).

Ah well, everyone has a right to change their style...


Posted by patticus on Jul-06-2001 09:52:

im sorry, what exactly do you mean by DMC - style mixing?
simply scratches and cuts and stuff?


Posted by Cosmo K on Jul-06-2001 09:58:

Instant crossovers with the crossfader, and toying with it...

...his transition into Storm - Time To Burn was amazing!

There were a good number of tracks which I can't remember, but he slowed the record down. At some point he actually stopped it and started it again whilst flicking the crossfader...ya gotta hear it!
He played with the decks all through his set! Inserted parts here and there, totally unlike Jean...


Posted by Spad on Jul-06-2001 12:05:

The trouble with Tiesto is that the tracks he plays don't seem to compliment each other too well. Somebody like Sasha or Timo will play the tracks off one another so to speak, creating a rollercoaster of emotions. Whereas with Tiesto it's all one long high. He just plays one "hands in the air" track after another until they lose all meaning.

Saying that, I saw him at Homelands and the place went off, so I think maybe his style is more suited to a live crowd (which in all honesty is what being a DJ is all about) than listening at home.

I just think his sets are sounding too much like the "Best Trance Anthems In The World Ever part 19.7" CD's that are always coming out; i.e. just a load of floor-fillers mixed together.


Posted by Trancegression on Jul-06-2001 19:47:

Smiley DJ

Hey whats wrong with Flight 643? I got nothing agaisnt it, to me it still sounds a lot like Tiësto, I've noticed that many producers just stick to one style, i.e. ATB...Darude...BT... But then Tiësto has these tracks that are completely different. Compare, A Funky Ass Track and Fly and Cyberia.


Posted by patticus on Jul-06-2001 21:45:

spad, i do believe you've hit the nail on the head!


Posted by bluE_Neon on Jul-06-2001 22:10:

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Originally posted by day_for_night
good lord! tiesto is a decent producer, THAT'S IT! other than that, the man is mediocre behind the decks, with a lacklustre style and so-so mixing skills. go listen to pappa, howells, s&d, warren, deep dish, seaman, ect... and *then* tell me tiesto even comes close to the talent than any of the above have. the man is way over rated, plain and simple.

ohhh, and i'm sorry, but magik 1 thru 6 were and are pure cheese. in search of sunrise two was his only album even worth listening to (still boring as hell, i have freinds who can make better mixed tapes).

ohhh, and ferry corsten sucks too (cause i haven't pissed off enough people on the board already )


i dont think he's overrated but he does have skillzz i feel da same way as u man about other dj's coz every1 lately is talken about Tiesto, only 1 Tiesto, DA TRANCE MASTER, blablabla...certainly he's got skillz, but not da best..i luv Nick Warren as well, from listening 2 his GU series and a couple of livesets, they certainly blow Tiesto's sets, im serious and Warren is not a rated dj as well, which i think he deserves a lot of respect in da world same for Seaman GU series 2 me r da best collections of trance/house/techno/breakbeats tunez


Posted by bluE_Neon on Jul-06-2001 22:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo K
There's a lot of variance in a DJ when he plays live...

...best example I have is DJ Jean. Was at one trance gathering, and he seemed so unmotivated, he actually used the mic "Bass in the place, people!"
However, after DJ Jean LIVE! @ TranceEnergy, I gotta say the man is closer to a god! He went back to his old day DMC style mixing! He knew those tracks in and out! And what BPM was he playing at? Not 140, that's for sure! Best set I've heard in ages...


finally some1 realizes something about dis sick dj and its not Jean bro its Dean, they put his or maybe he changed himself name under Jean 4 a couple of years now, i dont know why, but who cares, its safe ...ne wayz da set has a 160BMP and indeed da set does fucken rock!!

take a look at TTF series da 1's he mixed man POUNDING basslines, non-stop hard trance, i think da hardest trance ever, with DJ Scoot Project and others


Posted by patticus on Jul-06-2001 22:36:

blueneon is correct, nick warren BLOWS Tiesto away.
way out west is in-fucking-credible.

AND his djing skills and selection is unbuhleeeeeevable, as pete tong would say.

check out the GUs and then dare to argue.
seaman's just below nick warren, but he's right there as a dj


Posted by bluE_Neon on Jul-06-2001 22:46:

quote:
Originally posted by patticus
blueneon is correct, nick warren BLOWS Tiesto away.
way out west is in-fucking-credible.

AND his djing skills and selection is unbuhleeeeeevable, as pete tong would say.

check out the GUs and then dare to argue.
seaman's just below nick warren, but he's right there as a dj


thnx bro 4 confirming my comment
cheers patticus


Posted by patticus on Jul-07-2001 01:23:

what can i say man, i love talking bout underrated djs w/ mad skills, tho there's no way that nick warren should be so overlooked.. its not like he's new to the scene..

WOW has been ripping it up since at least 1995?


Posted by Cosmo K on Jul-07-2001 12:12:

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finally some1 realizes something about dis sick dj and its not Jean bro its Dean, they put his or maybe he changed himself name under Jean 4 a couple of years now, i dont know why, but who cares, its safe. ...ne wayz da set has a 160BMP and indeed da set does fucken rock take a look at TTF series da 1's he mixed man POUNDING basslines, non-stop hard trance, i think da hardest trance ever, with DJ Scoot Project and others


Ah yes...meant DJ Dean, a pal was mistaken... yup, he's the guy who mixes all that excellent German Tunnel Trance Force stuff.
Those compilations are wicked... my ex gets 'em from Germany and I just borrow 'em as soon as possible! (The Gary D. series has improved a great deal too...it's what I call typical German trance, with it's own sound...or maybe it's just me)


Posted by flystyler on Jul-07-2001 15:13:

I agree

Tiesto is god like in the new trance sceen, is popularity grows by the second, and as soon as some hears a liveset from tiesto or even a song, like urban train, they realise he is god like

All i can say is i hope he carries on the way he is.

And continues growning in popularity


Posted by bluE_Neon on Jul-07-2001 19:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo K


Ah yes...meant DJ Dean, a pal was mistaken... yup, he's the guy who mixes all that excellent German Tunnel Trance Force stuff.
Those compilations are wicked... my ex gets 'em from Germany and I just borrow 'em as soon as possible! (The Gary D. series has improved a great deal too...it's what I call typical German trance, with it's own sound...or maybe it's just me)


hehe ya its typical UNDERGROUND German Trance dat's why i luv it so much


Posted by Seventh City on Jun-23-2002 07:47:

ah, he is good


Posted by JM on Jun-23-2002 10:42:

tiesto is good...yeah....good productions/mixes

>JM<


Posted by Elyksir on Jun-23-2002 12:15:

Red face

quote:
Originally posted by patticus
blueneon is correct, nick warren BLOWS Tiesto away.
way out west is in-fucking-credible.

AND his djing skills and selection is unbuhleeeeeevable, as pete tong would say.

check out the GUs and then dare to argue.
seaman's just below nick warren, but he's right there as a dj


hmmmmmm well it'e easy to mix a CD compilation on PRO-TOOLS isn't it? And as far as I know, most of GU CDs are computer-mixed... GU is just good because of great music which it delivers (delivered ).
Tiesto makes his cds live on a event or in a studio... Isn't this something to admire also?
And to be frankly, I saw Seaman last year and I was soooo dissapointed, his mixing was terrible his music boring so many progressive lovers were leaving the dance floor.... But his mixing on the GU compilations is smooth ... I wonder why????

regards


Posted by Eugene on Jun-23-2002 12:32:

I don't like Tiesto.


Posted by Cable on Jun-23-2002 12:36:

do you people not read the dates of these posts?
7c is reviving old threads and you're all falling for it


Posted by burns on Jun-23-2002 14:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Eugene
I don't like Tiesto.


ok....?!?!?!?!?! Please give a reason duden then things are kool


Posted by Blue. on Jun-23-2002 14:42:

I love Tiesto he's one of my favourites along with Corsten and now AVB


Posted by Eugene on Jun-23-2002 15:16:

quote:
Originally posted by burns


ok....?!?!?!?!?! Please give a reason duden then things are kool

because he jumped on the progressive bandwagon, became a clone of Oakenfold, sold out, and no longer spins euphoric hands-in-the-air uplifting Trance.


Posted by Cable on Jun-23-2002 15:29:

actually he spins plenty 'euphoric hands-in-the-air uplifting Trance', he never stopped, he just added a few progressive trance tracks into his sets.

there is no progressive trance bandwagon that ive seen.


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