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Posted by christos on Sep-30-2003 07:48:
There's a simple solution to all of this....don't take drugs! (just had to)
Luvin it!
Chris Pana 
Posted by petek on Sep-30-2003 09:41:
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Originally posted by InAcoma
Hopefully, it will prevent ppl from coming to emergency and making my job a whole lot easier |
I know people on drugs etc may cause other accidents and the like but is there that many people that come to emergency due to drug overdoses? a little off topic, but just interested...
Posted by narcism on Sep-30-2003 11:25:
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Originally posted by petek
I know people on drugs etc may cause other accidents and the like but is there that many people that come to emergency due to drug overdoses? a little off topic, but just interested... |
Going on heroin let alone there is a huge amount of Od's that get treated in the ER. I dont have the specific number of people per week, but its a lot considering.
Talking about other illicit drugs not so much, the people u see entering the ER are people who i believe aren't educated enough generally in the first place, these ppl are the first timers, but many are also the ppl who like to mix substances together.
In saying this it isnt just ppl that OD, i've recently had a family member get admitted into the psych ward for drug induced psychosis, i was talkin to the nurse in charge and she said the rates of ppl aged 16-30 are increasing each year. Many are put on suicide watch, who need constant protection from themselves and others. These people can go home after a few weeks. But for them to get admitted into hospital they usually have to hurt themselves or have some signs of self destruction. For example jumping in front of a tram, getting behind the wheel. But at the end of the day the police probably cant stop them from doing it. Like how many ppl do drink and drive and never get caught, my friends do it every weekend.
Another dimension of the er is the ppl who have been wounded either from a stab wound, gun shot ect ect associated with drugs, this generally is the harder stuff like coke and heroin.
But still if this new device that the police have can save someone's life, then at the end of the day isnt it worth it.
Posted by Romp on Sep-30-2003 14:42:
if they wanna save some lives why not put all the money they waste on tryin to catch drug users into our hospitals.
Lets face it, ecstasy, speed and marijuana users arent hurting anyone, except maybe themselves but then so are cigarette smokers
Posted by djkeenetik on Oct-01-2003 02:59:
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Originally posted by christos
There's a simple solution to all of this....don't take drugs! (just had to)
Luvin it!
Chris Pana |
thats the problem i dont take drugs and many people dont, but Im afraid I wont be able to go to events because our parties have been stereotyped as drug parties...and the US government is looking to Ban dance music because they think the music is behind the drugs.
What a load of hog wash
Posted by narcism on Oct-01-2003 11:26:
Thats what u get for living in the US?
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| if they wanna save some lives why not put all the money they waste on tryin to catch drug users into our hospitals |
Posted by OLi_A on Oct-01-2003 13:07:
why not put some of that money into education?
id rather see money in health and education than more tax cuts so i can save a cpl hundred each year pfft
Posted by Master_Yoda on Oct-03-2003 06:31:
There is no way in hell they are going to shut down ALL paces with 'repetitive music'... how screwed is that...?
My opinion is is that if ur gonna take drugs, then go ahead.. as long as your prepaired to to take the risk with the police and with your own health then by all means pop a few pills...
But for those that have no idea.. well your really taking a big risk, and it'll probably end in a very bad way.
Posted by Mangler on Oct-03-2003 06:54:
whats "drugs"?

Posted by Audio Beverage on Oct-03-2003 07:25:
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Originally posted by djkeenetik
...and the US government is looking to Ban dance music because they think the music is behind the drugs.
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Well based on substantiated fact and conclusive evidence, I think that would be a clear and rational decision to make!
Posted by mongeone on Oct-04-2003 09:19:
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Originally posted by morphee
I remember hearing about one part of the RAVE act, the 'repetative music sub-act'. Any gathering of 6 or more people, where there is repetative music being played, is classed as a rave, and will be shut down if there is not legalities like a license and the promoter has informed the local police that there will be a rave on.....
fucking ridiculous |
All music is repetitive... all music is predictable...
when are these fkn shit arsed `developed` societies gonna get off their fkn high horse... for fucks sake pot is NATURAL, if someone wants to take speed or xtc fkn let them.... our society would be sooooooooo much better if drugs were just fkn legalised! less people in jail, less crimes for people to commit (especially organised crime and addicts breaking into houses for money), safer drugs, fuck wits that dont know moderation will die one day from their stupidity whether it be from xtc, alchie or fkn eating too many bananas, alot more money would be in the public system in all areas especially police. Drug education would become so much more accurate and people would actually listen to what the government has to say about it.
ahhhhhhh fuck just legalise it..... its so fkn simple.... THERE ARE NO GOOD POINTS AGAINST LEGALISING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this topic gets me sooo fkn pissed off
Posted by skware on Oct-04-2003 22:06:
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Originally posted by mongeone
ahhhhhhh fuck just legalise it..... its so fkn simple.... THERE ARE NO GOOD POINTS AGAINST LEGALISING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this topic gets me sooo fkn pissed off |
As much as I share a similar view to you mongeone, and taking the devil's advocate point of view, there are quite a few good and valid points against legalisation of various class A substances. Particularly making it legal allows a higher penetration of availabilty to people that are not able or willing to make decisions about use in moderation. For example how would you feel if your (hypothetical) 12 year old sister went out to a sleepover and got trashed on pills etc. There are many other ones that come to mind. What pisses me off most about talking about drug use is the inherent negative social stigma attached to the topic due to alot of false propoganda on the subject. Society in general is brought up to believe that "drugs are bad" (mmmkay), where a more valid view IMO is that the misuse or use without moderation of drugs is the problem rather than the chemical compounds or natural plant matter that is consumed. Without a policy in place to reduce the harm associated with use and reduce the amount of abuse, any legalisation doesn't really solve the issues that exist in the current state of affairs.
Anyway, this is probably not the best forum for any more of this, take it to bluelight where noone is likely to be offended by talk along these lines.
Posted by euphoria@aus on Oct-06-2003 07:19:
Is it even illegal to be under the influence of a drug though? I mean obviously they can bust you for possesion but if youre just rolling away can day even do anything? "Officer someone spiked my drink with MDMA!" Obviously if youre driving this would make sense but there are hundreds of drunks walking the strets at night and they dont get hassled as long as theyre not doing anything stupid.
Posted by one.tjc on Oct-06-2003 10:25:
lol you can imagine.. euphoria is driving home, totally twatted -> police officer pulls him over.. err sir, you're 15 times over the legal limit.. but officer.. my lemonade got spiked!
ahahaha thatd go down a storm!
Posted by webmeister on Oct-06-2003 11:01:
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Originally posted by one.tjc
lol you can imagine.. euphoria is driving home, totally twatted -> police officer pulls him over.. err sir, you're 15 times over the legal limit.. but officer.. my lemonade got spiked!
ahahaha thatd go down a storm! |
Yeah, but I was originally looking for the bingo hall 
I don't know where the hookers came from
Posted by one.tjc on Oct-06-2003 11:17:
... i swear to drunk im not god!
surely she isnt 70? 10mins ago she was 25!
.. the ping pong balls smell like what?.. errr
we ran out of bingo balls... 
Posted by Tranceilvania on Oct-06-2003 11:45:
Fuck yeahh, While we're at it lets ban the Motor Vehicles and production of petroleum products as well. cuz I saw couple of kids sniffin' it.......Fuck'n Nazzis

Posted by euphoria@aus on Oct-07-2003 01:29:
heh you guys missed my point. i was saying that this tests have relevance for when you're driving but i doubt the police can just test random people on the street if they're not causing any mischief
Posted by djkeenetik on Oct-08-2003 02:29:
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Originally posted by GelatinPufF
Well based on substantiated fact and conclusive evidence, I think that would be a clear and rational decision to make!
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So are you agreeing with the US government on banning dance music because a minority of those who attend our parties take drugs to enjoy music?
Posted by webmeister on Oct-08-2003 10:34:
I think he was being sarcastic....
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