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Ok so i dont live anywhere near canda, but i have a slight problem with this quote

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Marijuana advocates are encouraging pot smokers in Ontario to enjoy their new-found freedom. "The people of Ontario should be celebrating this monumental victory!" said Marc Emery of the BC Marijuana party. "Anywhere you can smoke tobacco, they should be smoking marijuana."

I mean WTF, anywhere you can smoke tobacco you should now smoke weed? Thats just wrong. I really woudnt like it if some idiot lit a joint at a table next to me in a restaurant while i was eating my lucnh or dinner, in fact i would probably make him eat that shit (his weed not my lunch ) Yes i am a little intolerant, and i know most non smokers woul agree with me (went trough these kind of discussions on a lot of other forums ). While some of us can tolerate cigarette smoke to some level, weed just stinks and sadly not all places have special sectisons for smokers and nosmokers. God damn it weed even stinks up the fresh air, i cant even walk in the park with a friend on friday or saturday night if i dont want to get sick and high becouse of the smoke Its even worse at the clubs where you dont even need a moke amchine becouse the guest provide it when they smoke weed

OK sorry i went way of toppic with my rant but its been building up in me for a while

What i wanted to say before i started writing off tpic shit is im not against weed usage for medical reasons. Hey if a person with aids says it eases his pain then he can smoke it only i hope he does it when he wont bother other people. As for the kids that just want to get high...fuck them, ive seen to many bad shit happens becouse people wore high on weed

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Correct sir...I hate to say it but drugs do enhance your creativity. You'd be scared to know how many great songs and great movies have come from drugs.

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Originally posted by Shade on Grey New Kanadian flag

rofl, that's great!

It's also decriminalized in CA


Check your state:
http://norml.com/index.cfm?Group_ID=4516

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Originally posted by djSlain America tries to be Drug Free, bla bla bla, drug campaign, drug awareness programs. We are at the top the world in terms of power. holland is full of drugs. A lil weed here, a lil ecstasy there....where are they and where will they ever be?

America is fighting a losing war against drugs.

Statistics of drug-related deaths, and hard-drug use are consistently higher in the US than in Holland... Policy-makers in Holladn have realised that drugs are an unavoidable part of modern society and that the "war on drugs" is unwinnable (even the death penalty isn't enough to deter people). The evil is not the drugs themselves but the harms they cause society, that's why it's called a "harm minimalisation" approach. In the US junkies are criminals and drug addiction is treated as a crime. In countries like Holland they are treated as sick people, and addiction is seen as a health problem.

Who cares about power? What should really matter for most citizens is living standards - In this area Holland always beats the US.

Since when does Canada have jurisdiction in Alaska?

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Originally posted by djSlain America tries to be Drug Free, bla bla bla, drug campaign, drug awareness programs. We are at the top the world in terms of power. holland is full of drugs. A lil weed here, a lil ecstasy there....where are they and where will they ever be?

You do realize that marijuana use is higher in America than in Holland?

And please tell me how spending billions of dollars on drug prevention is more worthwhile than putting a roof over everyone that is homeless, feeding those who are starving, providing a job for those on welfare, providing health care for those who cannot afford it...need I go on? Not to mention the amount of money they would MAKE, instead of spend, on the tax revenue alone.

My main argument for legalizing pot (And no I don't smoke it) is one thing...is it honestly any worse than alcohol? Nowhere even close.

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Originally posted by Omegasox You do realize that marijuana use is higher in America than in Holland? And please tell me how spending billions of dollars on drug prevention is more worthwhile than putting a roof over everyone that is homeless, feeding those who are starving, providing a job for those on welfare, providing health care for those who cannot afford it...need I go on? Not to mention the amount of money they would MAKE, instead of spend, on the tax revenue alone. My main argument for legalizing pot (And no I don't smoke it) is one thing...is it honestly any worse than alcohol? Nowhere even close.

well said.

There's better things for a government to spend money on than chasing around teenagers with a few grams of weed... Judges are tossing out cases involving teenagers and small possession of weed anyway. It simply costs too much when you consider paying police to find and arrest them, the trial, and the cost of holding the individual in jail. Also, now the police can focus on the dealers that push the stuff on to the little kids, and fines for growing will be doubled.

Sometimes a government can't control everything, and just let people be people sometimes.

well, i'm back from my friends house, so i'm ready to tackle this issue again.
let's get started:

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no offense but i think only a dumbass would admit doing drugs at a job interview.

If weed is greater than the second coming of jesus, why would u lie about it to an employer about it? In fact, shouldn't he give u double dragon challenge skill points for using marijuana? OMG, does having a history of drug use/abuse/experience actually affect your chances of getting a job??? Don't worry, your employer who puts his full confidence and trust into your duties will be fine with you putting some lies in the application. What happens to people when they lie about having spent some time in prison?

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And please tell me how spending billions of dollars on drug prevention is more worthwhile than putting a roof over everyone that is homeless, feeding those who are starving, providing a job for those on welfare, providing health care for those who cannot afford it...need I go on? Not to mention the amount of money they would MAKE, instead of spend, on the tax revenue alone.

and your country will delete the word "homeless" and "poor" from their dictionary when marijuana is legalized? I'm sure there is a high percentage of homeless people that got screwed over in their addiction to drugs. Wife didn't like his drugs, KICKED OUT. Employer didn't like their employers drug use, FIRED. Hell, come to San Diego and tell me how many homeless people here are "crazy" because they haven't had their fix in a while. "fuck fuck fuck, i'm twitchin 'cus i don't have my fix"

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You'd be scared to know how many great songs and great movies have come from drugs.

u mean like the "let the bodies hit the floor" guys?


well, i'll tackle some more issues later. But just remember about the Fortune 500.

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Originally posted by djSlain well, i'm back from my friends house, so i'm ready to tackle this issue again. let's get started: If weed is greater than the second coming of jesus, why would u lie about it to an employer about it? In fact, shouldn't he give u double dragon challenge skill points for using marijuana? OMG, does having a history of drug use/abuse/experience actually affect your chances of getting a job??? Don't worry, your employer who puts his full confidence and trust into your duties will be fine with you putting some lies in the application. What happens to people when they lie about having spent some time in prison? and your country will delete the word "homeless" and "poor" from their dictionary when marijuana is legalized? I'm sure there is a high percentage of homeless people that got screwed over in their addiction to drugs. Wife didn't like his drugs, KICKED OUT. Employer didn't like their employers drug use, FIRED. Hell, come to San Diego and tell me how many homeless people here are "crazy" because they haven't had their fix in a while. "fuck fuck fuck, i'm twitchin 'cus i don't have my fix" u mean like the "let the bodies hit the floor" guys? well, i'll tackle some more issues later. But just remember about the Fortune 500.

for fuck sakes people lie to get ahead in the work world all the time. have you ever lied to get something you wanted? say your a 25 year old with a degree in business applying for a fortune 500 company. you smoked some pot in college. big fucking deal. if the question even comes up about drug use, of course the guy is going to say no. no one said marijuana was this all godly drug man. we're just saying that you shouldn't base something like a job if a kid smoked a little weed here and there.

secondly...there are tweakers everywhere. its just the way life is. they have more seious problems than you and i. i dont think they need their 'weed' fix to get by in life. we are talking about meth, speed, and heroin addiction. none of which i see getting decriminalized any time soon. just because its decriminalized doesnt mean everyone will start smoking it. there are always going to be people against it (like yourself) and people whp are afraid. no one is saying the world is going to be a better place, but armageddon isnt going to happen if its decriminalized.

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Originally posted by astroboy The evil is not the drugs themselves but the harms they cause society, that's why it's called a "harm minimalisation" approach. In the US junkies are criminals and drug addiction is treated as a crime. In countries like Holland they are treated as sick people, and addiction is seen as a health problem. Who cares about power? What should really matter for most citizens is living standards - In this area Holland always beats the US.

A-fucking-men.

Now djslain, I know this is an obscenely wrong concept to you, but just consider it:

The United States government legalizes marijuana. They sanction the growth of it and hire growers to cultivate, harvest and maintain the crops. Of course in this scenario the government would sell only the highest quality product because if they didn't, people would still go to independant growers. The government could then tax the product like they do tobacco and alcohol, and make ridiculous amounts of money on it. This would create a large amount of jobs for growers, maintenance, security, etc.

Then, by decriminalizing marijuana, the police could stop bumbling around wasting alot of their time and resources fighting that evil guy who owns an ounce of weed just because he likes to chill out once in a while. They could take the hundreds of thousands of persons in prison for marijuana related crimes and allow them to become productive members of society. Instead of spending billions of dollars taking care of these people, feeding them 3 meals a day, they could actually *gasp* go out and get a job, become a stimulus to the economy, and do something with themselves. And god forbid, they could go home and smoke a joint after a long day!

Then - with the billions of dollars the government would be a) making on sales and taxes b) saving on taking care of countless criminals c) getting replenished into the economy by increased productivity and sales in general - they could focus on actually helping those whose lives have been negatively affected by drugs. Instead of throwing that coke addict in jail, they could afford to put them in a rehabilitation facility and attempt to clean his life up. Maybe that guy who lost his job because he got addicted to meth? He could go through a detoxification session and be put back on his feet.

And if there's some money left over - we could look at doing things like increasing inner city awareness for drug abuse and addiction. By decreasing class sizes in schools. By feeding our poor and getting them off the streets. Etc, etc, etc ...

Okay, now this is obviously an ideal situation. Not all those rehabbed will end up successful and contributing, some will go back to prison. Some of those released from prison will go out and commit a crime again, but if it is of necessity, they will be jailed again. Nothing is perfect, but look at the possible benefits:

A) A huge $ benefit for the government
B) Creation of large numbers of jobs
C) Economic stimulus
D) Free up jail facilities for real crimes
E) Focus policing on more pressing issues
F) Improving the lives of those who have been affected by drugs
G) General societal improvement

Now I know several of you will disgree with me, this is just what I think.


And no, I am not a pot smoker.

The number one reason why Cannabis will never be legal in the US:
Those who served jail time for posession will sue.

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Originally posted by UWM A-fucking-men. Now djslain, I know this is an obscenely wrong concept to you, but just consider it: The United States government legalizes marijuana. They sanction the growth of it and hire growers to cultivate, harvest and maintain the crops. Of course in this scenario the government would sell only the highest quality product because if they didn't, people would still go to independant growers. The government could then tax the product like they do tobacco and alcohol, and make ridiculous amounts of money on it. This would create a large amount of jobs for growers, maintenance, security, etc. Then, by decriminalizing marijuana, the police could stop bumbling around wasting alot of their time and resources fighting that evil guy who owns an ounce of weed just because he likes to chill out once in a while. They could take the hundreds of thousands of persons in prison for marijuana related crimes and allow them to become productive members of society. Instead of spending billions of dollars taking care of these people, feeding them 3 meals a day, they could actually *gasp* go out and get a job, become a stimulus to the economy, and do something with themselves. And god forbid, they could go home and smoke a joint after a long day! Then - with the billions of dollars the government would be a) making on sales and taxes b) saving on taking care of countless criminals c) getting replenished into the economy by increased productivity and sales in general - they could focus on actually helping those whose lives have been negatively affected by drugs. Instead of throwing that coke addict in jail, they could afford to put them in a rehabilitation facility and attempt to clean his life up. Maybe that guy who lost his job because he got addicted to meth? He could go through a detoxification session and be put back on his feet. And if there's some money left over - we could look at doing things like increasing inner city awareness for drug abuse and addiction. By decreasing class sizes in schools. By feeding our poor and getting them off the streets. Etc, etc, etc ... Okay, now this is obviously an ideal situation. Not all those rehabbed will end up successful and contributing, some will go back to prison. Some of those released from prison will go out and commit a crime again, but if it is of necessity, they will be jailed again. Nothing is perfect, but look at the possible benefits: A) A huge $ benefit for the government B) Creation of large numbers of jobs C) Economic stimulus D) Free up jail facilities for real crimes E) Focus policing on more pressing issues F) Improving the lives of those who have been affected by drugs G) General societal improvement Now I know several of you will disgree with me, this is just what I think. And no, I am not a pot smoker.

Furthermore, the government would be able to sell legal marijuana at much lower prices than street dealers. Market forces would push street dealers out of business. Experience in a few Scandinavian countries confirms that when people stop buying weed from street dealers they are not exposed to dealers pushing hard drugs on them when they buy weed. This leads to a dramatic increase in the age of the average heroin user and decreases the growth of heroin.
Providing clean, dose-controlled heroin to registered junkies in a clinical environment also puts pressure on street heroin dealers and reduces overdose deaths, and muggings. Also the registered nurses that provide the heroin will be able to administer medical assistance to overdosed drug users, so more ambulances are free to assist people in medical emergencies...
I'm not saying that drugs are good, or that I'd hire someone who used drugs excessively. I'm just saying that I can't think of a drug-caused social problem that would not be significantly decreased by imlementing a harm-minimalisation policy.

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Originally posted by moncster The number one reason why Cannabis will never be legal in the US: Those who served jail time for posession will sue.

ummmm no.

they broke the law at the time. the number one reason is that those polticians that have fought so fiercly against it wold feel stupid.

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Originally posted by moncster The number one reason why Cannabis will never be legal in the US: Those who served jail time for posession will sue.

The legislation would not be retrospective

i appreciate concerns givin against legalization based on social structure and motivation of populace.
the problem is the same as when the us went through prohibition... non-violent poeple were treated the same as violent criminals. i used to smoke all the time, but i reached the point where i felt it was time to move on with my life... it's obvious no form of legeslation can prevent drug use where there is a demand by the population.. so, why try to prevent it? i think part of the appeal of use is the illegality of the substance, and there may be an upsurge of usage initially; but over time, i suspect usage would drop from its current levels.
one must ask for the real reason marijuana is still illegal. it's obviously not based on the governments need for tax dollars, or its respect for freedom of the population. i suspect that it has to do with maintaining present class lines. let me explain. if the working poor spends say $100 for a quarter bag (dank of course), they have no possibility to produce ample savings to create their own equity (usually in the form of home purchases), and while smoking, they don't care about these things. the money goes to their dealers, who spend it almost directly on creature comforts (cars, clothing, ect..) directly placing the money into the pockets of the corporations (god, i sound like a conspericy freak).
i just don't buy the morality arguement.
if legalized, prices would be set by a competive market, producing more expendable income for the working poor, and increase the quality of life for the working populace. but, of course, the polititians would have to care in order to pass such legislation.
oh well.

djslain, u really dunno what ur talking about. I had to laugh when i saw u saying successful people dont use drugs. Ill post a link showing tons of famous/successful people who have whenever i find it.

well, mr fuq, considering u couldn't come up with an original screen name, i doubt u have the capabilities of finding anything that hasn't already been created, unless of course, u steal it and hotlink and use someone else's bandwitdh and whatever. I won't argue with u 'cus u didn't really add anything intelligent to say besides using a very "intellectual laugh parade." Please excuse urself from this thread. anyways, i'm back from school (doing very productive things!) and i'm ready for the 3rd wave of the druggie squadron
wait, maybe i do have some more to add to mr fook or however u want to be called, mr fuq. protect yourself if u can.

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I had to laugh when i saw u saying successful people dont use drugs.

damnit, i have to sign up with a credit card to look at the list. o well, through scatters around the internet, let's see all the succesfful people who revolutionize ideas and put their mark on history. bob marley? robert downey junior? The entire cast from the movie Half Baked?
Bill Gates? Julia Roberts? and of course, the 1 and only Stephen Hawking?
i win.

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ok, next... The government could then tax the product like they do tobacco and alcohol, and make ridiculous amounts of money on it. This would create a large amount of jobs for growers, maintenance, security, etc.

Do u know how much time i use when i am in a car and waiting for the light to turn green. it would save a lot of people a lot of time to just zoom into it, rite? I could get to work faster and clock in early to make some extra cash, which would turn into a paycheck, into spending money, and thus improving the economy and the price of the XBox will go down and everyone will be happy.

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for fuck sakes people lie to get ahead in the work world all the time. have you ever lied to get something you wanted? say your a 25 year old with a degree in business applying for a fortune 500 company. you smoked some pot in college. big fucking deal. if the question even comes up about drug use, of course the guy is going to say no. no one said marijuana was this all godly drug man. we're just saying that you shouldn't base something like a job if a kid smoked a little weed here and there.

Go tell the world's most successful people to smoke weed. go ahead, i'm sure they all have emails. tell them "u know, u can be more successful if u smoke weed." Smoking weed points everyone to the dream of success rite?
and once again: What happens when ur employer finds out u spend time in prison, something u lied about to the boss? lying about drug use? Uh oh spaggettios.

by the way, if u want to prove the ultimate, give ur baby some weed, once a week for their childhood. They will be very successful

and once again, why hasn't anyone been talking to my point about the leaders of the world's fortune 500 companies? someone help. I'm drowning in confusion!

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Originally posted by djSlain Do u know how much time i use when i am in a car and waiting for the light to turn green. it would save a lot of people a lot of time to just zoom into it, rite? I could get to work faster and clock in early to make some extra cash, which would turn into a paycheck, into spending money, and thus improving the economy and the price of the XBox will go down and everyone will be happy.

That's the stupidest response to the point I made that you could have possible come up with.

Did you actually sit down and try and figure out how to make yourself look like an idiot?

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Originally posted by djSlain and once again, why hasn't anyone been talking to my point about the leaders of the world's fortune 500 companies? someone help. I'm drowning in confusion!

John Morgridge, former CEO of Cisco Systems, was a member of my fraternity at my university. And our house has a notorious reputation for being hard partiers. Now I suppose you can sit here and tell me I don't know what he did here, but I wouldn't put it past him.

Oh, and you seem to have overlooked the point someone made that the leader of the free world used to be heavily into drugs.

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Go tell the world's most successful people to smoke weed. go ahead, i'm sure they all have emails. tell them "u know, u can be more successful if u smoke weed." Smoking weed points everyone to the dream of success rite?

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by the way, if u want to prove the ultimate, give ur baby some weed, once a week for their childhood. They will be very successful

you are going more and more off the deep end with every statement. listen...no one is saying weed makes you sucessful. i for one am saying that decriminalizing it would not have an adverse effect on the country.

no one is going to prove anything by giving a kid weed. i mean..are you fucking serious with that statement? your points are ridicilous. when a kid gets a certain age let him make his own choice. we are talking about decriminalizing marijuana here.

the whole point of decriminalizing would be NOT to spend time in jail for marijuana use, therefore a boss would never find out something like that. they could find that out anyway before you even came in for an interview.

basically...you can be sucessful if you want to. weed is not going to hinder your ability to become sucessful. i will use myself as a prime example. i am a young adult with a bright future in front of me. i will have a teaching degree and probably making more money than you 'djing' with that silly name. oh wait, you're probably not a dj. anyway, ive done drugs, and drank. have i ever been arrested, certaintly not. in fact, ive done more than just weed. according yo you i cant be sucessful anymore. but oh wait, once a person gets ti a point in their life to where they are mature about their priorities and realize they dont (or maybe dont want) drugs in their life. if they do...they shouldnt be punished for it.you have truly fallen victim to drug propaganda, and i feel bad for you.

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Originally posted by djSlain Do u know how much time i use when i am in a car and waiting for the light to turn green. it would save a lot of people a lot of time to just zoom into it, rite? I could get to work faster and clock in early to make some extra cash, which would turn into a paycheck, into spending money, and thus improving the economy and the price of the XBox will go down and everyone will be happy.

Your analogy seems to suggest that, as inthe case of zooming through the red light, the dangers of legalising drugs outweigh the advantages. The experience of countries that have implemented a "harm-minimisation" approach and the arguments presented here seem to suggest otherwise.

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Go tell the world's most successful people to smoke weed. go ahead, i'm sure they all have emails. tell them "u know, u can be more successful if u smoke weed." Smoking weed points everyone to the dream of success rite? and once again: What happens when ur employer finds out u spend time in prison, something u lied about to the boss? lying about drug use? Uh oh spaggettios.

No, marijuana use does not point anyone to "the dream of success" (although I wasn't aware of any "rites" associated with success, where can I learn them?). But it doesn't prevent success (any more than alcohol does) either. The only thing that prevents success is the social stigma associated with marijuana use. I wouldn't be surprised if Stephen Hawking and Bill Gates smoked weed in college and didn't tell their employers about it. A lot of people experiment with marijuana, and some people even with harder drugs. I know plenty of people that now have quite high-profile corporate jobs, who had experimented with drugs at uni - the drugs didn't help them succeed, but they didn't prevent them succeeding either. If they had told all their potential employers that they had done drugs, their progress would have been inhibited, but onl due to the negative social stigma, not the drugs themselves.

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by the way, if u want to prove the ultimate, give ur baby some weed, once a week for their childhood. They will be very successful and once again, why hasn't anyone been talking to my point about the leaders of the world's fortune 500 companies? someone help. I'm drowning in confusion!

Because if any F-500 directors have ever tried drugs (and I'm sure some of them have) they never told anyone. What is your obsession with drugs leading to success anyway? I don't think it has been a major point made by the people in this thread supporting a harm-minimalisation approach (to tell you the truth, I don't remember anyone making that point.
The main point is that the main problem with drugs is not the drug but its harmful effects on society. The experience of countries which have implemented such policies, economic intuition, and basic logic (as opposed to impulsive emotional reaction) seem to indicate that a "harm-minimalisation" approach minimises these harms (funnily enough).

Shepard Smith on G Block on Fox news is pretty cool eh? anyways, it's over, eh, i'll skip tonites o'rielly factor. so back to the war

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That's the stupidest response to the point I made that you could have possible come up with. Did you actually sit down and try and figure out how to make yourself look like an idiot?

counterpoint? ::Searching searching searching::. none detected. Response Ignored for Lack of Contribution to this discussion.

by the way, smoking weed will eventually make u an idiot, just look at Drew Barymore and Snoop Dogg.

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...the dangers of legalising drugs outweigh the advantages. .

advantages of smoking weed? Even San Diego has it's ugly places. Sometimes i have to go into these neighborhoods to look at some car dealerships or maybe i'm hungry. So here i go, honk honk, beep beep through the neighborhood. You know ur in some shitty places when there is an alley per every block. hmm, i have to go into an alley to reach the highway to go back home. hmmm, blantant drug dealing between teenagers (I didn't see any adults doing it, is that a sign of positivity?), and when i stop to make a right, there is a stop sign with a bunch of blunts burned into it. The smell, mmm, thats not Captain Crunch cereal. It couldn't possibly be weed! That's right. All the poor people couldn't smoke weed. it must be all the rich people that smoke weed, u know, because of all the advantages of smoking weed, they make $150,000 a year. right?
This next question is just out of curiosity:
what are the advantages of smoking weed? There must be some advantages considering canada has legalized it. O right. It will raise the IQ of students so that when they grow up to be leaders, the US will bow down to Canada and we will fall off the face of the earth in our defecits and then canada will be the best country in the world. I'm not a girl, but i think it's acceptable for me to say "puhleeze"

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No, marijuana use does not point anyone to "the dream of success"

so it's ok to tell the newer generations that it's ok not to shoot for success. People these days don't really make their own success. They follow the steps of successful people to reach the top. Why aim for anything other than success? Do we want to follow the steps of those who smoke weed?

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... but they didn't prevent them succeeding either.

If cops are so busy "wasting time" finding people who do drugs, who's fault is it when they get caught? And what happens when u get caught with drugs. u are then labeled (spelling?) imcompitent for the rest of ur life when the employer asks to give u a backround check. No more good jobs. Of course, this is about professional succes.
how about personal success? Doesn't weed destroy families, whether it's the parents or the children?
(is there another type of success?)

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no one is going to prove anything by giving a kid weed. i mean..are you fucking serious with that statement? your points are ridicilous. when a kid gets a certain age let him make his own choice. we are talking about decriminalizing marijuana here. [/quoute] maybe u all misunderstood. (once again) if weed is so great, why not prove it? I'll buy proof when i see it. So let's see the life a casual weed smoker to the life of a non weed smoker. Unless of course, u are setting urself for failure and that's great. It's pretty sad seeing people affected by weed on the streets on TV withlive coverage of the A+ Homeless People Thanksgiving Feast. [quote] i will have a teaching degree and probably making more money than you 'djing' with that silly name. oh wait, you're probably not a dj.

Parent Conference. U really hurt my feelings.

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ive done drugs, and drank. have i ever been arrested, certaintly not. in fact, ive done more than just weed. according yo you i cant be sucessful anymore. but oh wait, once a person gets ti a point in their life to where they are mature about their priorities and realize they dont (or maybe dont want) drugs in their life. if they do...they shouldnt be punished for it.you have truly fallen victim to drug propaganda, and i feel bad for you.

are u going to start a campaign to tell children its ok to smoke weed as long they are "innocent" lil kids.

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you have truly fallen victim to drug propaganda, and i feel bad for you.

america is stupid when it comes to drugs. so let's go to the old UK.
http://www.drugs-awareness.co.uk/drugs_cannabis.htm

whoops, i skipped a paragraph

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ive done drugs, and drank. have i ever been arrested, certaintly not. in fact, ive done more than just weed. according yo you i cant be sucessful anymore.

i'll comment on this after u answer me this question. it's not a flame or anything, but i just need some info before i respond to this. Did u do the drugs before/duing/after getting your teaching degree?
because if u did the drugs before u got the degree, then it obviously meant that u decided "u know what, i need to stop doing drugs because it's only making me go backwards, not forwards, in my ambition to become a productive member of society. Why did u do the drugs in the first place? because u wanted to aim low and work at K mart?
"i've got to get my head in the game" ok, booom u stopped drugs and started to journey to getting that degree.
now, if u did it during the journey, then i have been DEFEATED. I guess i could say that maybe u were to the exception to the rule, but i won't. If u were really able to do this, then i guess i'll secede.
And if u did it after, and still doing it, then u better watch out for drug tests, especially in the career i guess u are heading for, teaching. Why don't the school boards want to hire people who have previous experience with drugs?
btw, say if u actually did get arrested, do u think u would still have that career secured?
ummm, what else.

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probably making more money than you 'djing' with that silly name

doesn't Ashcroft make more money then u? i guess that makes him better than u, correct?

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Originally posted by djSlain well, mr fuq, considering u couldn't come up with an original screen name, i doubt u have the capabilities of finding anything that hasn't already been created, unless of course, u steal it and hotlink and use someone else's bandwitdh and whatever. I won't argue with u 'cus u didn't really add anything intelligent to say besides using a very "intellectual laugh parade." Please excuse urself from this thread. anyways, i'm back from school (doing very productive things!) and i'm ready for the 3rd wave of the druggie squadron wait, maybe i do have some more to add to mr fook or however u want to be called, mr fuq. protect yourself if u can.

I will, believe me. I KNOW that i know a hell of a lot more on this subject than u do. Ive studied drugs for years and discuss drug issues with many people (including doctors, prohibitionists, scientists etc) every day.
Secondly, not original? Who the fuck else have u ever seen using fuq? Ive used it for about 8 years.
The list of famous people was created a long time ago, i just dont have the link for it any more and have asked somebody to give me it today. Ill have the url soon.

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damnit, i have to sign up with a credit card to look at the list. o well, through scatters around the internet, let's see all the succesfful people who revolutionize ideas and put their mark on history. bob marley? robert downey junior? The entire cast from the movie Half Baked? Bill Gates? Julia Roberts? and of course, the 1 and only Stephen Hawking? i win.

Ull see it when i post it. The fact that u think people cant use drugs, cannabis in particular, and be successful shows that u obviously havnt got the slightest clue about how they work and what they actually do. Ill assume ur yet another brainwashed sheep who mistakes the effects of prohibition with the effects of chemicals.

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Do u know how much time i use when i am in a car and waiting for the light to turn green. it would save a lot of people a lot of time to just zoom into it, rite? I could get to work faster and clock in early to make some extra cash, which would turn into a paycheck, into spending money, and thus improving the economy and the price of the XBox will go down and everyone will be happy.

Ur just being fucking stupid. Speeding through red lights is extremely dangerous.

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Go tell the world's most successful people to smoke weed. go ahead, i'm sure they all have emails. tell them "u know, u can be more successful if u smoke weed." Smoking weed points everyone to the dream of success rite? and once again: What happens when ur employer finds out u spend time in prison, something u lied about to the boss? lying about drug use? Uh oh spaggettios. by the way, if u want to prove the ultimate, give ur baby some weed, once a week for their childhood. They will be very successful and once again, why hasn't anyone been talking to my point about the leaders of the world's fortune 500 companies? someone help. I'm drowning in confusion!

Nobody is saying weed makes u more successful. The fact is it wont have any significant impact on ur potential success, unless u count the extra creativity that benefits musicians etc
By saying "tell them "u know, u can be more successful if u smoke weed." Smoking weed points everyone to the dream of success rite?", u r deliberately twisting words to strengthen ur non-existant argument. It wont work.

as O'Reilly says, the spin stops here

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