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gluegun: what would you recommend out of the Sony 700's, the Pioneer HDJ1000's, the Sennheiser HD280, or the Sennheiser HD28, and why?

Well, are you in Australia or are you Stateside?

I generally don't recommend the V700DJ's.

What's your maximum budget?

How much isolation do you feel you need?

Would you want a more "DJ" sound or a more accurate sound? If you can learn to beatmatch with hihats, which is safer on your ears (you don't have to turn a good, set of high-isolation headphones up as much), I'd get a set of good dj/studio headphones with accurate sound. If, however, you are completely committed to the "BOOM BOOM" midbass style of mixing, and unwilling to try something different, than that limits your options. Studio headphones will give you ACCURATE bass, the quickness of which can speed up your beatmatching... unless you are one of those who can't or won't use them at all...

I'm in the states mate. I'm aussie though lol.

maximum budget... hmm I guess I don't want to spend over $150...

I'm not sure how much isolation I'll need to be honest.. I guess a fair amount but it's not overly important to me.

I prefer accurate bass to BOOM BOOM BOOM, and though I'll be using them for DJing primarily at home, and perhaps (fingers crossed) later in louder venues... I'd still prefer a more DJ/studio type product as you suggested.

I have tested all 3 (sennheiser hd-280 pro, sony 700's and the new pioneers) within the last month. I myself own Sennheiser hd-280 pro's.. but for beatmatching nothing can beat the new pioneers.. so..
1'st place Pioneer
1 1/2 place: Sennheiser
10th place: Sony :P

i've used them both. *in clubs* and i can tell you that either will work just fine for beatmatching. if you can beatmatch with one pair you'll do just as well with the other. if you think you can beatmatch fine with one but not the other then it's psychosomatic. as for build quality i would say the pioneer are built a little better, especially if you're a bit rough with your cans. me personally, knowing how important they are, i take just as good care with my headphones as i do my carts or vinyl. every pair of headphones will break. the sonys do tend to break a bit sooner. i know people who go through a pair of 700s every 6 months but have used the 1000s for the same amount of time and are still just fine. if you take good care of your phones they'll both last for some time so it's really just a matter of personal preference. also take a look at technics headphones. my friend barry has been using his for every event he's played at for over a year and they're fine. he plays his fidget event, radio show, clubs events and even uses them in the studio with great frequency and they're still going strong. the ear cup is a bit small but then again he's a small guy. i've used them and they work fine. really, just buy the pair that are most comfortable fitting and you'll be laughing. personally i use the 1000s. cheers.

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Originally posted by Rememberence_ I'm in the states mate. I'm aussie though lol. maximum budget... hmm I guess I don't want to spend over $150... I'm not sure how much isolation I'll need to be honest.. I guess a fair amount but it's not overly important to me. I prefer accurate bass to BOOM BOOM BOOM, and though I'll be using them for DJing primarily at home, and perhaps (fingers crossed) later in louder venues... I'd still prefer a more DJ/studio type product as you suggested.

I'd suggest the AKG K271 Studio or the Sony MDR-V6 or the Sony MDR-7506. All good studio headphones. The V6 and the 7506 are the same headphone, btw.

thanks GG may I ask, what is the downside of the HDJ1000 or the sennheisers?

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Originally posted by Rememberence_ thanks GG may I ask, what is the downside of the HDJ1000 or the sennheisers?

After just over a month of owning the HDJ-1000s and using them extensively. I can say that in my opinion, so far the only downside to them is the price.

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Originally posted by Rememberence_ thanks GG may I ask, what is the downside of the HDJ1000 or the sennheisers?

In a word, I'd say, "boomier, less accurate bass" and say they weren't designed to have the frequency response of studio phones -- ESPECIALLY the HDJ1000...

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Originally posted by Gluegun In a word, I'd say, "boomier, less accurate bass" and say they weren't designed to have the frequency response of studio phones -- ESPECIALLY the HDJ1000...

Man. Going by the specs, the HDJ-1000s had better frequency response than any other set of phones I found when I was headphone shopping. Which ones were you referring to? I thought I looked at all of them.

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Originally posted by physe Man. Going by the specs, the HDJ-1000s had better frequency response than any other set of phones I found when I was headphone shopping. Which ones were you referring to? I thought I looked at all of them.

So where is this GRAPH of the frequency response that specifically shows a flatness across the board and no midbass hump? You should know that you can't judge a headphone on unelaborated frequency response... the "5 hz to 30 khz" is pure bullshit... and besides, there is no real "Ideal" frequency response or way to measure headphones... Headphone.com's measurements come close, but we're a long way off...

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Originally posted by Gluegun Ooohh... Thailand... Uhm... what companies and models do you have readily available there?

i can get my hand on a pair of sonys or pioneers pretty easily, but of course the price would be a bit higher because of import/tax/duty etc etc.. all sennheisers here are ridiculously expensive, and theres no way i am going to be paying about $225 for the 25 or 280s, just not going to happen. so for djing purposes in a club environment, i would be going for the sonys or pioneers. i know alot of big name djs use the sonys, so i am assuming that they are pretty good, since the companies arent sponsoring the djs.. any thoughts?

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Originally posted by Gluegun So where is this GRAPH of the frequency response that specifically shows a flatness across the board and no midbass hump? You should know that you can't judge a headphone on unelaborated frequency response... the "5 hz to 30 khz" is pure bullshit... and besides, there is no real "Ideal" frequency response or way to measure headphones... Headphone.com's measurements come close, but we're a long way off...

You have a good point. Why don't these companies make graphs like these available to the customer so they can buy headphones they are happy with. For me personally, I like a punchier bass but I'm sure it's not for everyone.

It would make sense to me that customers have access to these sorts of graphs so they can make the choice that best fits their needs.

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Originally posted by razzi i can get my hand on a pair of sonys or pioneers pretty easily, but of course the price would be a bit higher because of import/tax/duty etc etc.. all sennheisers here are ridiculously expensive, and theres no way i am going to be paying about $225 for the 25 or 280s, just not going to happen. so for djing purposes in a club environment, i would be going for the sonys or pioneers. i know alot of big name djs use the sonys, so i am assuming that they are pretty good, since the companies arent sponsoring the djs.. any thoughts?

A lot of big name DJ's use the Sony's because Sony *PAYS* them to, ya know...

I would get the Pioneers.

Go with the Sony 700

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The only downside to the Sony's is that engineering issue they have that the plastic swivel cracks on them.. that happened to mine about 15 months (and that happens to everyone), after using them. If you get to play out and you get paid $ for them, id say they would be worth it.

That about sums it up

IMO THE PIONEER IS SHITE I ownded a pair of these when they first came out and the pieces of shite lasted for approx 3 months Also I know at least 3 other djs that play out on a regular basis that had the same problem (as mentioned earlier in the thread) with the wire to the earphone cutting out.

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Originally posted by 24K Go with the Sony 700

Been there, done that. Both the Sony MDR-V700DJ and the Pioneer HDJ-1000 are shyte, IMHO. The Sony 700 that I used to have cracked and shorted out after just three weeks of very gentle use. What's worse, neither of those two headphones deliver sound quality that's anywhere near commensurate with their prices - they sound like a much cheaper headphone than what they're really selling for.
I'd go with neither of those - and instead save up for a Senn HD25 or a Panasonic/Technics RP-DJ12##.

I'd spend $20 more than the HDJ-1000s and get the MDR-V900s. The only thing I've had to do in over three years is replace the headphone jack which I broke (long story). They still work great. I used the pioneers a little while back and definately think you should check out the V900s.

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Originally posted by DJ1MK I'd spend $20 more than the HDJ-1000s and get the MDR-V900s. The only thing I've had to do in over three years is replace the headphone jack which I broke (long story). They still work great. I used the pioneers a little while back and definately think you should check out the V900s.

Uhh... aren't the V900's getting away from the "DJ features"? Don't they not swivel and stuff? I don't know the details, but I've heard V900's are more in the "normal headphones" deal, where they are soundly beaten by the giants from Sennheiser, Beyerdynamic, etc.

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Originally posted by ShadySlim Been there, done that. Both the Sony MDR-V700DJ and the Pioneer HDJ-1000 are shyte, IMHO. The Sony 700 that I used to have cracked and shorted out after just three weeks of very gentle use. What's worse, neither of those two headphones deliver sound quality that's anywhere near commensurate with their prices - they sound like a much cheaper headphone than what they're really selling for. I'd go with neither of those - and instead save up for a Senn HD25 or a Panasonic/Technics RP-DJ12##.

I agree, HD25's are where its at .

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