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just read the oct mixmag, the interview with PvD, and they said he used a laptop! i was like what the f? im intruiged by this idea. does he have a mix board still? is everything controled by the computer? how does it actually work? how do you use it?

so many questions.
anybody got a link for info?

when i see a dj, i do like the way the interact with a vinyl, it just seems so natural for them, and makes it entertaining for me. i only recently recognized the sound difference between vinyl(Analog) and cd(digital). wouldnt a ripped vinyl have the digital feel to it? just my thought
no experience.

ergg is it really that hard to understand? final scratch is exactly the same as spinning records normally except instead of bringing 100 records with you to a gig you take 2 records and a laptop. the laptop has all the mp3's that you have ripped from your records beforehand. thats final scratch in a nutshell, if you need a bit more info then go do the logical thing visit the damn final scratch website www.finalscratch.com. would you like me to feed you guys next? how bout i buy you a colostimy bag so you dont have to get up to take a shit?

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Originally posted by euphoric dream ergg is it really that hard to understand? final scratch is exactly the same as spinning records normally except instead of bringing 100 records with you to a gig you take 2 records and a laptop. the laptop has all the mp3's that you have ripped from your records beforehand. thats final scratch in a nutshell, if you need a bit more info then go do the logical thing visit the damn final scratch website www.finalscratch.com. would you like me to feed you guys next? how bout i buy you a colostimy bag so you dont have to get up to take a shit?

your a twat. so what if some of these guys don't know what it is? everyone has to hear about it at some stage. fuck off.

I'm all for it, judging on what I've read here, it's just another step forward technologically. I will always love vinyl, but this is the first thing available that provides advantages to records without creating any disadvantages. I think purists who don't embrace new methods or at least take time to learn about them should get their heads out of their asses.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike your a twat. so what if some of these guys don't know what it is? everyone has to hear about it at some stage. fuck off.

ermm im pretty sure from reading through the thread you can pick up what this is about. i mean fuck he asked do you still use a mixer ffs even though it was said djing with final scratch is the same as djing normally. i mean how many time do people have to ask the same question? do people really need to be linked to the finalscratch website? i would have thought the most common thing to do is use google if oyu want info on a certain product that way you get the products website with all the info you need + a message board dedicated to the product. but then again i have learnt that people are fucking idiots when it comes to finding things out for themselves....

Do you need special needles for this because it would seem to me that if you are only using final scratch for your set, you could probably get away with using cheap Stanton 500s and the output wouldn't be affected.

Now, before somebody jumps all over me with an obvious answer, yes I do realize that if you plan on playing other records in addition to using final scratch, you wouldn't be able to use this trick.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike your a twat. so what if some of these guys don't know what it is? everyone has to hear about it at some stage. fuck off.

He said he can't drive yet, I think that explains it...

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Originally posted by Carona He said he can't drive yet, I think that explains it...

so what your saying is because i am 17 years old and unable to drive legally in my country must make as dumb as you are? you had nothing important to contribute to this thread except to show us how lame and immature you are. Because i got annoyed at how people are unable to read what has already been said or look up information for themselves you two have taken it upon yourselves to flame me. well you the dude who thinks anyone who doesnt drive is stupid has shown me how ignorant he is and the dude who called me a twat has shown me he is unable to to argue properly with someone with that one line insult im done now.

This is a music discussion forum where people argue, debate and here's one, ask questions. The guy asked a question and you flamed him. Maybe he didn't read every post in this thread? Did that maybe occur to you as to WHY he asked how final scratch works?

Euphoric Dream is being a twat. If whoever who was flamed by the twat did'nt ask the question I would have.

I watched PVD - Live @ nature One 2003 VIDEO and seen PVD using final scratch...

I got Final Scratch last year, i have nothing but good things to say about it. It's a reveloution.

I was technically a click away from buying this off ebay. Was too afraid i wouldn't be able to ge tthis installed though. Couple of things i need to ask
I have a PC laptop i know it partitions etc but is there a diff playing it off linux on PC or playing it off Mac? I'm really not too good wit hthe comp so i need something user-friendly.
Is it hard to get the system installed and up and running and getting used to the feel of it? There isn't a Stanton distributor here so if i'm stucked..i'm fucked.
If I was taking this to play in a club and i set up the system before my gig can the people who opens for my set use the setup to play normal records?
Sorry if they've been asked before

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike 5. It's linux based. Those who would worry about it all going wrong on the night should fear not This isn't shitty windows were dealing with here, this is linux and it is the daddy of operating systems; stable as fuck

Well, Chris Liebing's computer froze in Sensation Black 2002...

i can see both sides of this in matter of opinions

but what amazes me is
those who say
ITS NOT THE SAME!! ITS FAKING
ITS NOT USING DJ SKILZ
and so on-

i cant agree with this attitude because if you NEVER knew that this was taking place ( usage of the final scratch)
you would stil be jamming on the dancefloor as if NOTHING was any different

you would never even know would you?
but then when the person actually sees whats going on in there- they get all huffy?


is that being a hypocrite? or am i being to blunt and not seeing another light of this?
opinions please?

I think if you're well read on the whole Final Scratch topic then it can be seen in a positive light.

HOWEVER - since the majority of ppl don't bother to educate themselves about things it can only lead to the assumption that anyone who uses it doesn't buy vinyls and downloads all their music to spin at the club and evil sites like tranceaddict that offer downloads must die.

^^ So true. More then 80% of the mp3's that i have on my final scratch, i own a copy on record. The other 20% are the impossible to find tunes which i cant find (but i do try and track them down)

So do these final scratch records last forever, or do they wear out over time and need to be replaced? If they need to be replaced, how much do replacement records cost?

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Originally posted by physe So do these final scratch records last forever, or do they wear out over time and need to be replaced? If they need to be replaced, how much do replacement records cost?

Ive had fs for a year. I replaced one record, a couple of weeks ago. The 2nd one needs replacement soon. It all depends on which needles you use. With the ortofon concorde's you can get a years play out tof them without scratching them up . Replacement cost for the fs records are about 30-40 $$

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Originally posted by Lofu_X Euphoric Dream is being a twat. If whoever who was flamed by the twat did'nt ask the question I would have.

hey thanks. im the guy who asked do you still use a mixer. This was the first time i had ever even heard of this product, and was totally confused. i assumed that it was like other dj programs, which get rid of all the equipment except the PC, and it was just a good mixing program. guess i was wrong.

and as to why i didnt search for it? i dont know a lot about mixing equipment, and find some of the technicalities go over my head. So i thought maybe someone could simplify for me! thanks to those who have.

and Euphoric Dream, get your head out of your ass, just because you understand something and others dont, does not imply that you are far superior to them in any way. I am a university student, studying to be an accountant, i have skills in certain areas, you have skills in certain areas, its as simple as that. People have different strengths in life. learn to accept it.

Does anyone know if PvD,Hawtin or Liebing etc have their tunes on the laptop in mp3 or wav format? If they had them in mp3 format wouldn't it sound worse than using vinyls because of the compression used. I know that at on home sound systems it can be very hard to distinguish between vinyls/cds and mp3s but on a club sound system with lower bass frequencies etc wouldn't it be a bit noticeable and therefore wouldn't professionals be reluctant to use it?

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Does anyone know if PvD,Hawtin or Liebing etc have their tunes on the laptop in mp3 or wav format

I'd say a high quality MP3, if you get the bit rate to 192kbps at least with a GOOD compressor, it will sound fine, most (not all)people can't notice the difference between that and Vinyl in most settings. Anything lower then 192 is crap though, and if 192 is done w/ a bad compressor or from a bad source, it can be bad too.

I saw a DJ here in seattle use FS the other night, it was fine I guess. His 'records' skipped a few times and it sounded really weird, not like a normal vinyl skip. Not sure what the deal was.

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Originally posted by Bortsta Does anyone know if PvD,Hawtin or Liebing etc have their tunes on the laptop in mp3 or wav format? If they had them in mp3 format wouldn't it sound worse than using vinyls because of the compression used. I know that at on home sound systems it can be very hard to distinguish between vinyls/cds and mp3s but on a club sound system with lower bass frequencies etc wouldn't it be a bit noticeable and therefore wouldn't professionals be reluctant to use it?

in the new remix mag, PvD talks about it, i believe he said .aiff

excuse my ignorance but what exactly is final scratch

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Originally posted by spit_heron in the new remix mag, PvD talks about it, i believe he said .aiff

Thanks.I suppose it would be aiff files rather than wav if he uses a Mac.

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