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Originally posted by electric_soul Even IExplorer which is the less customizable browser ever can change font size...

The browser-variable font size only refers to that using the HTML SIZE tag. If the size is specified as 12px or 12pt in CSS, for example, changing the browser's font size will actually not change the way it displays (this is why we in the industry love CSS, it's a way of standardizing the display for people who have annoying browser settings. )

hmm yes, I wasn't referring to that but to user stylesheets.

from MSDN:

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User-Defined Style Sheets Through the Options dialog box of the browser, users can specify a style sheet that they want to have applied to all pages that they view. This style sheet will be applied to the document first, meaning the author has the final say of how a CSS attribute is defined. Style sheets defined in the document override the user-defined style sheet. The user-defined style sheet is simply a "preference" that will affect the page if the author has not defined a rule for that CSS attribute. User-defined style sheets specified by the user in the Options box dialog of the browser are not listed in the styleSheets collection.

Document style sheets override user stylesheets, which is not the case in other browsers, you can do whatever you want.

Haven't used IE in a while. bad absumption

hey, while we're on the subject of web design will you guys take a look at my site and let me know what you think. i just redesigned it fromt he ground up and i'm still working on the littel details of it. i would greatly appreciate and suggestion you guys have about any aspect of it. cheers.

www.v-i-o.com

about the .css, my css file apparently isn't working or something. In the Dreamweaver MX WYSIWYG window pane thing, my page shows up the way its supposed to in regards to font color and style, but not size (still affected by .css file changes, just not the same size as in the preview... F12). F12 (preview in browser) yields Times New Roman font instead of the Verdana, and the font size is smaller than in MX's preview pane.

Sample of my .css file:

.h {
background-color: black;
font: Verdana;
color: white;
font-size: 75%;
}

What am I doing wrong?

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Originally posted by VIO hey, while we're on the subject of web design will you guys take a look at my site and let me know what you think. i just redesigned it fromt he ground up and i'm still working on the littel details of it. i would greatly appreciate and suggestion you guys have about any aspect of it. cheers. www.v-i-o.com

It's well done so far I guess, but not my style. As long as it suits you and what you're promoting though...

I taught myself html from looking the source of basic webpages. For me, everything I build is based around tables, layers upon layers of them.

creates a new table. It is possible to create tables within tables. You'll need to do this for your content area.

creates and ends a new vertical row.

creates and ends a new horazontal row.

Start playing around with them. I suggest downloading CuteHTML (google it). Its a simple HTML editor with lists of all the commands, which can help you both write faster and learn of the options availabe. I strongly reccomend you write it by hand instead of using a lame visual editor, as you can fine tune it to a much greater degree, plus you'll be learning a lot.

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Originally posted by Turbonium about the .css, my css file apparently isn't working or something. In the Dreamweaver MX WYSIWYG window pane thing, my page shows up the way its supposed to in regards to font color and style, but not size (still affected by .css file changes, just not the same size as in the preview... F12). F12 (preview in browser) yields Times New Roman font instead of the Verdana, and the font size is smaller than in MX's preview pane. Sample of my .css file: .h { background-color: black; font: Verdana; color: white; font-size: 75%; } What am I doing wrong?

somoeone help, I read stuff up, no direct answers

EDIT: basically all I need to know is why the F12 thing isn't working, and why I can cahnge the text size in IE, even though the size is defined in the .css file (according to previous posts, if it's defined in a .css file, text size should not change in IE regardless of what text size you set it to).

nm font problem solved, now just the size...

EDIT 2: found out the damn size prob (sort of). It's "px" not "px.". What a stupid thing, held me back for a while. Still doesn't solve the incorrect WYSIWYG preview in mx, meh.

"The problem with WYSIWUG is that what you see is all you can get" - Brian Kernighan

use notepad or a better replacement, or bear with MX crap

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Originally posted by Turbonium about the .css, my css file apparently isn't working or something. In the Dreamweaver MX WYSIWYG window pane thing, my page shows up the way its supposed to in regards to font color and style, but not size (still affected by .css file changes, just not the same size as in the preview... F12). F12 (preview in browser) yields Times New Roman font instead of the Verdana, and the font size is smaller than in MX's preview pane. Sample of my .css file: .h { background-color: black; font: Verdana; color: white; font-size: 75%; } What am I doing wrong?

You haven't given us any info in regards to how you're actually using this tag. You've declared a style "h" - how and where is it being used?

Perhaps instead of ".h", you meant to use "body" ?

It's solved guys, don't worry about it. Thanks though.

If I encounter anymore turbulence, I'll let you know.

In the following script:

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Originally posted by Turbonium In the following script: What the hell is "div"? btw this is for a Javascript realtime clock thing (the code works, but the HTML output is screwed). It displays it in a stupid cell thing, I want it to be as text. I tried screwing around with the HTML above, but to no avail. Changing the font style and color, etc., has no effect at all.

Dude, you need to seriously read up on the HTML standard before asking questions. You can't write in a language you don't understand. A div is just an invisible container, a separate body containing its own HTML code.

It displays it in a "cell" because you're putting it into an input box (hence the INPUT tag), i.e. a text box. If you want to do it another way without writing IE-specific code (do not use iframes, innerHTML properties, and so on), you'll have to write code that's a little more complex. I wouldn't recommend this, you're better off just stylizing the text box.

Why would you want a clock anyway? Most people have clocks on their computers already, don't put extraneous stuff on the page for show.

I'm experimenting and shit. It's not like my site really has much content to start with.

I don't have time to read into HTML so much, and I tend to learn slow off stupid tutorials. I do better when I'm shown, but whatever, I'm trying.

This shit takes time man, that's all I'm saying. And it's very confusing in many ways.

So how can I change the tag into a normal tag or whatever?

holy I hate this

it seems that all the ideas of stuff to put on my website are coming from other peoples' websites, either consciously or unconsciously. It sucks, cuz I want a neato site, but I don't want to go copying other people's ideas.

this sucks big time

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Originally posted by Turbonium I'm experimenting and shit. It's not like my site really has much content to start with.

I'm not following you - why are you so anxious to make a site if you have no content to put on it?

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I don't have time to read into HTML so much, and I tend to learn slow off stupid tutorials. I do better when I'm shown, but whatever, I'm trying.

Well, ok, but then you should probably take a class or something... trust me, reading a book will save a lot more time in the long run than having to ask someone else every time you have a hitch.

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So how can I change the tag into a normal tag or whatever?

Not nearly that simple. I don't have time to explain that and write scripts, I would suggest you look up those kinds of scripts on the 'net.

Why do I want a site? Cuz I'm frikkin retarded, that's why.

I've always wanted to have on tho, so.

Well I am putting photography and graphix work I do on it, so that is some content I guess.

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Originally posted by DigiNut I'm not following you - why are you so anxious to make a site if you have no content to put on it?

This is my justification: do you think this site has a real purpose? It's utterly retarded.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Most users where, in Upper Mongolia? 1024 x 768 is standard, 1280x1024 will probably overtake that in a year or two.

45% of people (all over the world) still use 800 x 600. I know this, i'm a Web Development student, hehe.

already going for 1024, and I fixed the clock problem, with this wicked site:

http://www.maxxblade.co.uk/clock/

thanks for the forum suggestions, now I can stop polluting these boards with stupid web development problems that are pretty much out of place

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Originally posted by Echo of Silence My problem in dreamweaver is controlling the width of a column. If I want a column to be 25% the width of a table or say 200 pixels, why when I view it in Netscape is it suddenly 50% the width of the table or say 500 pixels sometimes forcing my table off the page despite the fact that the table is set to be 85% the width of the page? I haven't had time to read up on this. Do you know what I'm doing wrong?

I'm confused what you mean by "column" - tables don't have columns in the markup, they have rows and cells; columns are rendered after.

As most people on support forums will say: post your code.

Aside from advocating the use of stylesheets here, I can't really tell anything from what's there. Have to see the code for the whole table, not just the td.

yay!

i'd use CSS and also H4 is intended for headers.

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or something...

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Originally posted by electric_soul yay! i'd use CSS and also H4 is intended for headers. or something...

Yeah, like that, but instead of -1 for the size, make it 12px or whatever the actual size is you want it to be (that way, lusers can't fuck up the display by using stupid fonts/sizes).

P.S. Noticing your XML-style closing tags, heh, I don't think they'll ever make that standard in HTML (can't be bothered to do it myself).

Guys I'm faced with a dilemma here. For my banner and stuff, I have this pic in it that isn't technically mine. Then again, I don't know who's it is. Is it ok to use it? It makes the look of the site that much better.

I'm sure I won't be the first among some of you to use an image not technically theirs. But honestly, is it a big deal? It's pretty much a personal site, so who cares, right?

EDIT: It's kinda like these sigs we are using, some have technically "Copyrighted" images in them. But not one cares, right?

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Originally posted by DigiNut P.S. Noticing your XML-style closing tags, heh, I don't think they'll ever make that standard in HTML (can't be bothered to do it myself).

yeah, XHTML (XML -> XHTML as in SGML -> HTML). Already an standard, not widely used tho, people keep using transitional HTML 4.01. Actually not even that, it's hard to find a web page with doctype definition and all properly done.


Turbonium, rule is: use it till someone complains

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