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Posted by MERTON on Oct-31-2003 19:10:

bear weighs more and has big claws and bigger teeth and is an omnivore.. let's see... i'd say.. THE FREAKING BEAR!! (duh )


Posted by dream_logic on Oct-31-2003 20:15:

The bear would definately win. The claws would open up that gorilla's gut before he knew what hit him. His face would also be bitten off before he could raise his pretty hands to defend.

I vote for the BEAR

Who's counting? Whats the tally?


Posted by Chris Crossland on Oct-31-2003 20:17:

Gorilla owns

You say silverback, this is not your average gorilla i have to add THEY ARE KILLERS! bad attitude very agressive
A gorilla family usually includes one silverback, the strongest male and the undisputed leader, one immature male between 8 and 13 years old

These gorillas own a bear will growl and swipe its claws and miss and the silverback will jump in it's back and tear up it's neck even though the gorillas eat vegis doesnt mean that it wont tear another animal apart you know bears are strong and all but you know Chimpanzees have the strength of 10 men and could rip you arm off what do you think a full grown immature silverback that is leader and gets what it want's all the time would do to something when it is threatened


Posted by MERTON on Oct-31-2003 20:26:

how do chimps have the strength of 10 men? i saw this thing on fox where soem 140 pound orangutan won a tugowar against a sumo.. how?


Posted by Chris Crossland on Oct-31-2003 21:54:

quote:
Originally posted by MERTON
how do chimps have the strength of 10 men? i saw this thing on fox where soem 140 pound orangutan won a tugowar against a sumo.. how?


I don't know it is awesome they kick arse


Posted by Turbonium on Oct-31-2003 22:33:

Silverback gorilla = VERY territorial animal. If the bear came onto the gorillas territory, it'd be fucked.

btw a grizzly's snout is it's weak point. One smash on its nose courtesy of the gorilla, and he's be like "WTF?!?!" and dizzy for a good few seconds at least. Enough for the gorilla to jump his ass further.

I think in the end it would depend on the terrain. If they were fighting in an arena, well shit, it'd all depend on who is quicker. Don't think gorillas are slow man, they fucking run at you and make you shit your pants, they look like fucking beasts, cuz they are. shitttt, bear would be scary too. Still think it would depend a lot on who got the first real strike in (gorilla, one good punch in the side of the face or side - bear, a good slash across the face or chest or neck)


Posted by Lumps on Oct-31-2003 22:47:

quote:
Who's counting? Whats the tally?


Well, from reading the solid answers (and no double posts) the tally is....

(drum roll)....... ..... .. . .

BEAR 11
GORILLA 07

I still say the Gorilla would pummel Yogi. Bitch.


Posted by SlickT on Nov-01-2003 01:21:

Someone at work told me people out west(Washington I think) found a bear standing and it was the height of the top of a 18 wheeler trailer. Besides have you guys seen Kuma from Tekken??? I think you know who would win. Next week we should have a new match up.


Posted by Chris Crossland on Nov-01-2003 01:28:

quote:
Originally posted by SlickT
Someone at work told me people out west(Washington I think) found a bear standing and it was the height of the top of a 18 wheeler trailer. Besides have you guys seen Kuma from Tekken??? I think you know who would win. Next week we should have a new match up.


Game? THIS IS NOT A GAME!IT'S NOT A GAME


Posted by astroboy on Nov-01-2003 03:50:

The animals bears hunt are not particularly smart and while a bear can run quite fast its shear size makes it clumsy. Generally its behaviour is predictable - In Russia, where people hunted bears they did it with a knife and a big stick that branches into two ends at one end. They'd get up close to the bear and poke it with the stick, as the bears arms aren't long enough to claw the hunter, it would stand up on its hind legs and try to fall on him. at which point the hunter would wedge the bears jaw under the stick so for a few seconds the bears entire weight is being held up by the stick... be fore the bear figured out what was going on the hunter would jump under it and slice its belly open.
So in conclusion... bears weight makes it clumsier. Bear isn't too smart so has predictable attacks... gorilla is more swift, unpredictable and intelligent ... therefore gorilla owns.


Posted by .montecarlo. on Nov-01-2003 04:04:

ffs... BEAR!


Posted by Pheobius on Nov-01-2003 12:57:

soz but the gorilla owns everytime


Posted by DJ_Bod on Nov-01-2003 15:48:

gorilla


Posted by Mako on Nov-01-2003 16:45:

Gorilla all the way. Nearly as smart as us, really territorial and aggressive when fighting. I've see videos of both animals fighting and the gorilla would win this by a long shot. The height of the animal doesn't mean anything IMO. The taller, the shittier your center of gravity the less balance you have, the easier to get thrown down by a charging gorilla with a low center of gravity.


Posted by Excite on Nov-01-2003 18:17:

its no contest..a large grizzly bear would beat and maul the shit out of that ape. you gotta remember the 2-4 inch claws too!

here is some interesting info about grizzlies..

Average weight is 500 pounds for males and 375 for females. Males may weigh up to 900 pounds.
Height is 3.5 � 4 feet at shoulder when on all fours, and 6 �7 feet when standing upright.
Front claws are 2-4 inches long, slightly curved, and good for digging. Claw marks are usually visible in tracks.





Posted by blazed it on Nov-01-2003 18:20:

polar bears rock grizzlies.


Posted by Chris Crossland on Nov-01-2003 21:13:

Damn now i actually wan't to find out

Put em in a ring

Ding ding ding


Posted by Orbax on Nov-01-2003 21:41:

i think the record for a standing bear (it was either a kodiak or a polar, I think kodiak though) was 15 feet. a 15 foot tall bear would pwn a gorilla.


Posted by Technaut on Nov-01-2003 21:42:

gorilla !

DIE bear DIE !!!


Posted by ASOT100 on Nov-01-2003 21:51:

I'd have to go with the Bear


Posted by astroboy on Nov-02-2003 14:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Excite
its no contest..a large grizzly bear would beat and maul the shit out of that ape. you gotta remember the 2-4 inch claws too!

here is some interesting info about grizzlies..

Average weight is 500 pounds for males and 375 for females. Males may weigh up to 900 pounds.
Height is 3.5 � 4 feet at shoulder when on all fours, and 6 �7 feet when standing upright.
Front claws are 2-4 inches long, slightly curved, and good for digging. Claw marks are usually visible in tracks.






Sure the bears got big claws and teeth, but they'll never touch the gorilla. The bear has a limited number of attack moves:

* It can bite the gorilla.. but it has to be reallly close.. or holding the gorilla, which won't happen cos the gorillas too agile.

* It can swipe with one claw while standing on all fours... in which case it has a limited range and low maneauverability as its standing on three legs while its swiping. The gorilla, with its superior agility would easily keep away from the claw and run circles around the bear.

* It can briefly push its body up and try to swipe with both claws... again limited range and low maneauverability.

* When it gets really pissed off it can get up on its hind legs and try to "fall on its victim" with the intention of clawing/mauling it. Again the gorilla is too agile to fall for this... even experienced humans won't fall for it.

While a bear has good running speed, and is bloody massive, it is its very size makes it clumsy and limits its agility. The gorilla is extremely aggressive, fast, agile and intelligent.. it will be able to run circles around the bear climbing/jumping on it and attacking its weaknesses unpredictably then quickly jumping off.


Posted by dartman on Nov-04-2003 06:13:

i am going with the silverback, all the way. this fight has been stuck in my mind for the past two days, and i am confident that the gorilla would win. i took a survey of people that i work with and the vote came out 25 for the gorilla and 35 for the bear. but i still am sticking with the gorilla


Posted by Orbax on Nov-04-2003 06:22:

Gorillas dont punch, the pummel and a bears skull is about 3 inches thick. Any time it does any of its stupid ass moves, it gets clawed.


Posted by occrider on Nov-04-2003 06:40:

Wtf ... these gorillas aren't the gorillas you see in the movies like Congo or planet of the apes ffs. A) They aren't the super smart fighters as many of you portray ... wtf are they going to do, kung fu back flips? 20ft jumps into the air? Break the bear's neck??? Give me a break, they are HERBIVORES who have survivalist instincts/competition for chicks at BEST. They are not trained hunters/fighters or any such skills ... they do not live to fight, and they are relatively docile animals in general. They mostly assert DOMINANCE rather than aggressive tendencies to kill. B) I see fucking scientists picking fleas off their backs all the time ... I rarely see scientists pick the fleas off a grizzly's back. This lack of "killer" instinct leads me to believe that gorillas are ultimately pussies at heart. C) When you think of gorillas you think of monkeys banging their chest ... when you think of grizzlies you think of bears eating your chest. The gorilla is at most going to PUNCH/nibble the bear. The bear at most will claw and BITE the gorilla. I mean a gorilla probably cannot even CRUSH the neck of the bear with its hands (nor would it know to do so) as much as a grizzly's jaws can crush anything.


Posted by speedracer_mec on Nov-04-2003 07:14:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Wtf ... these gorillas aren't the gorillas you see in the movies like Congo or planet of the apes ffs. A) They aren't the super smart fighters as many of you portray ... wtf are they going to do, kung fu back flips? 20ft jumps into the air? Break the bear's neck??? Give me a break, they are HERBIVORES who have survivalist instincts/competition for chicks at BEST. They are not trained hunters/fighters or any such skills ... they do not live to fight, and they are relatively docile animals in general. They mostly assert DOMINANCE rather than aggressive tendencies to kill. B) I see fucking scientists picking fleas off their backs all the time ... I rarely see scientists pick the fleas off a grizzly's back. This lack of "killer" instinct leads me to believe that gorillas are ultimately pussies at heart. C) When you think of gorillas you think of monkeys banging their chest ... when you think of grizzlies you think of bears eating your chest. The gorilla is at most going to PUNCH/nibble the bear. The bear at most will claw and BITE the gorilla. I mean a gorilla probably cannot even CRUSH the neck of the bear with its hands (nor would it know to do so) as much as a grizzly's jaws can crush anything.


when i think of bears i think of yogi bear licking on a honey comb and then gettin his clumsy goofy ass chased by a swarm of bees..


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