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Posted by butterfly420 on Nov-03-2003 08:15:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Trancention
Damn, talk about a caffiene rush.

I don't know about you guys, but the Starbucks here in Seattle are pretty damn good. I usually just get a Grande Caramel Macchiato

mmmmm.... Carmel Macchiato. That is my fav. from starbucks.

Posted by Pheobius on Nov-03-2003 18:31:

starbucks coffe is rank, go to Costa or Nero, their coffe is far better

Posted by PhloTron on Nov-03-2003 19:12:

why anyone would pay more than 10� for a cup of coffee is rediculous...

Why couldn't I have been one of the "now" big coffee giants that said...people will pay $4 for this....as they laugh their way to the bank....

This is only second worst to bottled water...now that's the biggest joke in the world. Not the 5 gallon type that you need if you have shitty ground water, but the "natural spring fresh glacier" water that's $2 a pint...and is bottled at someones tap....Suckahs.

Posted by astroboy on Nov-04-2003 03:34:

quote:
Originally posted by PhloTron
why anyone would pay more than 10� for a cup of coffee is rediculous...

Why couldn't I have been one of the "now" big coffee giants that said...people will pay $4 for this....as they laugh their way to the bank....

This is only second worst to bottled water...now that's the biggest joke in the world. Not the 5 gallon type that you need if you have shitty ground water, but the "natural spring fresh glacier" water that's $2 a pint...and is bottled at someones tap....Suckahs.

There is a huge difference between a well made espresso and a mug of Nescafe. I can justify paying $3-4 AU for a good espresso, but certainly not for that starbucks flavoured-milkshake crap (face the facts people... it aint "real" coffee).

Posted by mezzir on Nov-04-2003 03:44:

quote:
Originally posted by astroboy
There is a huge difference between a well made espresso and a mug of Nescafe. I can justify paying $3-4 AU for a good espresso, but certainly not for that starbucks flavoured-milkshake crap (face the facts people... it aint "real" coffee).

lol
i think we're thinking ot two different things
starbucks, in additions to their stores, markets the frapuccino drinks
those really aren't that good, and they're i think the flavoured-milkshake crap, and no it isn't real coffee at all, its just a step up from chocolate milk if anything
and starbucks does have good espresso
the thing that really bugs me is when people (not referring to you anymore astroboy, no worries) hate companies just cause they're big corporations
sure i'd like to support small local businesses sometimes, but when push comes to shove i just want the best product
unfortunately with our economy run the way it is its usually the big companies that can create better goods for cheaper, but still
i don't differentiate
i go to the local coffee shop for vanilla au lait's and blueberry muffins, and steamed cider too
i go to starbucks for peppermint mochas and chais
whichever makes it better is the place i go
[/rant]

Posted by astroboy on Nov-04-2003 07:57:

quote:
Originally posted by mezzir
and starbucks does have good espresso

Not the starbuck's i went too (and I guess it would vary from one outlet to another)... eeeww no crema, hardly any depth... a step above dishwater

quote:
the thing that really bugs me is when people (not referring to you anymore astroboy, no worries) hate companies just cause they're big corporations
sure i'd like to support small local businesses sometimes, but when push comes to shove i just want the best product

Totally dude. My uni is full of these anti-globalisation nuts... they really piss me off because 90% of them can't even justify their arguments and probably just protest because they didn't fit in at school and have finally found a clique in which they are accepted and feel powerful.

quote:
unfortunately with our economy run the way it is its usually the big companies that can create better goods for cheaper, but still
i don't differentiate

True for most goods, but not for products requiring art/skill. A chain wouldn't be able to compete with a master French chef for example. No more than an art franchise could compete with Picasso. Another thing is that the majority of the population doesn't appreciate a good coffee.. they preferr peppermint flavoured mochacino because its not bitter and is easy to appreciate. Therefore it is not profitable for large chains to specialise in goods with a narrow demand when they can pump out sweet flavoured coffee and sell much more of it. Smaller stores can capitalise on this narrow demand and build up a loyal customer base, by specialising in making coffee that most consumers can't appreciate.

quote:
i go to the local coffee shop for vanilla au lait's and blueberry muffins, and steamed cider too
i go to starbucks for peppermint mochas and chais
whichever makes it better is the place i go
[/rant]

To me the phrase "caramel machiatto" or "peppermint mocha" is equivalent to "chocolate flavoured '91 Cabernet Merlot"...

Posted by J.L. on Nov-04-2003 08:38:

tim horton's hot chocolate and 20 timbits for me thx... $3.50 CDN

Posted by basd on Nov-04-2003 11:33:

You people are weird

Who wants their coffee to taste like peppermint / vanilla / bacon crisps / ... anyway?

I sure as hell appreciate coffee the way it was meant to taste.. as do most people in Holland, fortunately

Posted by astroboy on Nov-04-2003 11:42:

quote:
Originally posted by basd
You people are weird

Who wants their coffee to taste like peppermint / vanilla / bacon crisps / ... anyway?

I sure as hell appreciate coffee the way it was meant to taste.. as do most people in Holland, fortunately

Word

Posted by squirrelly on Nov-05-2003 06:25:

The guys at my Starbucks make a triple expresso damn good!

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