Will someone please smack PVD! Official PVD bashing thread!

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Posted by Psionic on Nov-03-2003 22:50:

quote:
Originally posted by gatecrasher
His sets have been quality wot are you guys moaning about, the tracks he is playing rite now are great tunes that are full of energy- you only notice he is playing the same tracks cause loads of his sets are being broadcast recently.

Two of those nites in September at Planet Love and last month were the best two nites of my life, the atmosphere was unbelievable and the energy throughout was amazing.

Can't win - if a DJ plays crap he gets slatted, if he plays well he gets slatted too cause he plays similar tracklistings

Last time I checked, DJs don't normally play the same tracks 1/2 year later.

Posted by gatecrasher on Nov-03-2003 22:56:

What is a DJ there to do, entertain the crowd.

And it would seem that the crowd is rather enjoying his sets recently, I sure as hell did when I was goin buck mad to the tunes he was spinning.

Posted by umes23 on Nov-03-2003 22:57:

yeah ive been very annoyed by the excess repetetive quality that has been there in his sets the last couple of months. but its true, he is taking these sets to different places for different audiences for a certain promotion, we aren't meant to hear all of them!

but, its just unusually repetetive. normally he has his favorite tracks you're gauranteed to hear but there is enough variation to make each a unique experience. im looking forward to the 6 hour set in new york...

as for boston, if he comes back here and plays the same set he played in the end of august, that will be a real reason to complain
but he has close to two weeks, maybe, just maybe, he will surprise us. i hope he realizes that he was here recently enough for people to have heard the same shit already live.

Posted by headrushmusic on Nov-03-2003 23:00:

I'd like to say that the direction this thread needs to go in is not necessarily, "Why is PVD playing the same stuff over and over again," but rather, "Why are you listening to the same DJ over and over again?"

I think it's perfectly fine for a DJ such as PVD to play a consistent set. He is marketing an album and promoting sales, and I hope as a result, getting more people who might otherwise be hooked on Top 40 now hooked on the sounds and sights of the dance music scene.

But it's my opinion that veterans need to take their love for the music a level or two deeper and begin to explore the hundreds and thousands of talented DJs and Producers out there who aren't in the top 10, and who probably haven't made the Top 100 popularity polls, who are nonetheless gifted, talented, and who will blow your fucking mind with their music.

Everyone is griping about the scene dying and they aren't getting support for gigs and record sales on one hand, and on the other, folks are griping that there is the same old same old with same old DJs. I suggest that if everyone takes their support to where there is new music, innovation, and a fresh perspective, you will start to see that there is a lot more than the same 20 tracks over and over and over again.

You might hear something that inspires you, and you'll prolly save a lot of money, too. Pay attention to what's going on underground in your own back yards.

I love PVD and Tiesto and the likes. They have given me some real eye-opening moments. But fans need to keep pushing and holding artists accountable by supporting a competitive marketplace that supports new creativity.

Posted by gatecrasher on Nov-03-2003 23:00:

quote:
Originally posted by umes23
i hope he realizes that he was here recently enough for people to have heard the same shit already live.

I would not class the stuff he is playing recently as shit, I would be complaining if he was playing a repitive set which was crap but it is playing top quality stuff at the moment

Posted by swisstoni on Nov-03-2003 23:05:

quote:
Originally posted by goose_wh
a bit of variety wouldnt go amiss its true, but was he does play is pure quality.

im waiting for mikeys flame essay on this one.

lmao, i was just thinking that exact same thing...

Posted by sandstorm03 on Nov-03-2003 23:06:

quote:
as for boston, if he comes back here and plays the same set he played in the end of august, that will be a real reason to complain

thats what im saying

if he plays the same set at roxy/axis, as he did @ CP/Avalon it will be total BULL SHIT, thats all i wanted to say...

quote:
I would be complaining if he was playing a repitive set which was crap but it is playing top quality stuff at the moment

@ CP he played tracks 2-3x he better not do that @ roxy

Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Nov-03-2003 23:17:

quote:
Originally posted by goose_wh
a bit of variety wouldnt go amiss its true, but was he does play is pure quality.

im waiting for mikeys flame essay on this one.

cheeky But come of it people, all DJ's are guilty of having the same setlist for a while. Only we are noticing it a hell of a lot more with PvD atm, coz his sets are getting broadcasted 24/7, and too make things worse for him people are taking in minidiscs and recording his sets with microphones. Granted there are always going to be a few tracks that he has to keep playing like crush, nby, tool, connected etc. that everyone is getting a bit sick of, but you have to remember that he is on a Reflections tour to promote his album. Therefore he has to play these tracks over and over because how stupid would it be if he didn't after the night has been advertised as part of his reflections tour. But like every DJ, he sticks to a similar playlist for a while with some variation, puts in a few classics, and then soon enough he'll be moving onto a different playlist. If you all didnt download every single PvD set going then you wouldn't be fussed at all with tracks that keep getting repeated. If you go see him at your local club, and then go and see him again when he returns a couple of months later, if he is still playing the same tracks as before, then you have the right to moan. But until that happens, stfu I guess these are some of the reasons why PvD hates the internet.

Posted by AndskiSpeed on Nov-03-2003 23:18:

quote:
Originally posted by vmc
He definately needs to play new stuff!! There are a lot of trance tunes around that would fit his style.

Ok PvD, it's about time to stop playing that tunes over and over, mmmkay

To be fair PvD has quite a few tunes that other DJs don't play, I think its fair that he keeps playing tunes like Dreaming, because noone else plays it, and stuff like 88 To Piano, because noone else has it. Its not like you see PvD live every night is it!

Posted by sandstorm03 on Nov-03-2003 23:19:

quote:
you go see him at your local club, and then go and see him again when he returns a couple of months later, if he is still playing the same tracks as before, then you have the right to moan.

aight we'll see next week when he returns to the northeast

Posted by irishclubbing on Nov-03-2003 23:19:

if we're slating pvd for repetitive sets then lets slate johan gielen and scot project. scot has been playing the same stuff for two years now!

Posted by sandstorm03 on Nov-03-2003 23:21:

if they play the same stuff @ the same clubs/area then go ahead and bash them.

Posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 on Nov-03-2003 23:35:

LMAO @ this thread!

Before the DJ Mag results came in all of you were like "PvD is #1!", "PvD is God!", "PvD is a fucking amazing producer!". Now he doesn't win and you begin to realize why.

I guess it's time for most of you to jump OFF the bandwagon. It's about damn time.

Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Nov-03-2003 23:47:

quote:
Originally posted by TeKnoHe@d2025
LMAO @ this thread!

Before the DJ Mag results came in all of you were like "PvD is #1!", "PvD is God!", "PvD is a fucking amazing producer!". Now he doesn't win and you begin to realize why.

I guess it's time for most of you to jump OFF the bandwagon. It's about damn time.

My thoughts exactly mate In more ways than one i'm glad PvD didn't become number 1, so now all the bandwaggoners can fuck rite off to whereever they came from, and the real fans can get back to enjoying PvD without all the tag along sheep

Posted by swisstoni on Nov-03-2003 23:49:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
My thoughts exactly mate In more ways than one i'm glad PvD didn't become number 1, so now all the bandwaggoners can fuck rite off to whereever they came from, and the real fans can get back to enjoying PvD without all the tag along sheep

Coulnd'nt have said it better myself

Posted by Nadi on Nov-04-2003 00:17:

It seems to me, that since theres so much quality music out there, and almost all of it will make its way to him very quickly theres no reason that someone like me, who listens to between 0 and 2 pvd sets in a month, should be able to i.d 99% of the stuff in one of his sets.

Posted by DigitalMP on Nov-04-2003 01:07:

Re: Will someone please smack PVD!

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
hes been playing the same fucking bull shit since august...the same exact set...he might as well just play a recording on final scratch and go to sleep... thats the tl for every set over the past 2-3 months. any one else think this is getting RETARDED???
01. ID
02. Terry Bones Vs. Fred Baker - Introspection (John Askew Mix)
03. Paul van Dyk Feat. Second Sun - Crush
04. Nick Lunn & YOMC Pres. Tecno Punx - Energize (Paul van Dyk Edit)
05. Paul van Dyk - Time Of Our Lives (Pau van Dyk Club Mix)
06. Chris Liebing - Natural Selection
07. Tiesto - Traffic (Original Mix)
08. Paul van Dyk Vs. Marco V - For A Revolt
09. Marcel Woods - Time's Running Out
10. Westbam - Right On (Deutschmann Remix) [PvD Edit]
11. Inzite - Spellbound
12. Agnelli & Nelson Pres. Ultra - Nothing
13. Modulation - Spirits (Cosmicman Remix)
14. Jaron Inc. - Overflow (Original Mix)
15. ID
16. NuNRG - Connective
17. Holden & Thompson - Nothing (93 Returning Mix)
18. Donald & Giles - Weekend Wonder (Donald & Giles Mix)
19. Reeloop - Fucking Society (Instrumental)
20. Phil Green - Tribal Trance
21. Mat Silver Vs. Tony Burt - Ultimate Wave (Paul van Dyk Rework)
22. Project Zero - Omega Six (Paul van Dyk Rework)
23. Nick Lunn & YOMC Pres. Tecno Punx - Energize (Paul van Dyk Edit)
24. Paul van Dyk - Nothing But You (Paul's 'Original' Mix)

25. Paul van Dyk - Time Of Our Lives (Paul van Dyk Club Mix)

actually, on 10.12.03, in Toronto, he played Connected, as well as Beautiful Things, Lethal Industry, and As The Rush Comes, back2back2back

Posted by speedracer_mec on Nov-04-2003 01:17:

Re: Will someone please smack PVD!

Posted by TrAnCeAkI on Nov-04-2003 01:21:

wow everyone is agreeing to this :P

Posted by sandstorm03 on Nov-04-2003 01:30:

paul dropped Lethal Industry? DAM cant imagine that that must have been wierd , and paul has to stop playing atrc

Posted by Greedy on Nov-04-2003 01:33:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
jp what would you say after this is the tl for pvd @ roxy?

1. ID
2. Terry Bones vs Fred Baker - Introspection (John Askew Remix)(Paul van Dyk Re-Edit)
3. Inzite - Spellbound
4. Paul van Dyk - Time of Our Lives (Paul van Dyk Club Mix)
5. Nick Lunn & YOMC pres Techno Punx - Energize (Paul van Dyk Re-Edit)
6. Chicane ft. Maire Brennan of Clannad � Saltwater (Tomski vs Disco Citizens Mix)
7. Agnelli & Nelson pres. Ultra � Nothing
8. Modulation - Spirits (Cosmicman Remix)
9. Jaron Inc. � Overflow
10. Nu-NRG � Connective
11. Paul van Dyk feat Second Sun - Crush (Album Mix)
12. Motorcycle - As The Rush Comes (Sweeping Strings Remix)
13. Andain - Beautiful Things (Gabriel & Dresden�s Unplugged Mix)
14. Kim Sanders - Food For Thought (Humate's Pop Dub)
15. FatBoy Slim - Star 69 (X-Press 2 Wine Em Dine Em Remix)
16. Marcel Woods - Time Is Running out
17. 4 Strings � Revelation
18. Planet Perfecto - Bullet in The Gun (Instrumental)
19. DJ Tiesto � Traffic
20. Reloop - Fucking Society (Instrumental)
21. Paul van Dyk vs Marco V - For A Revolt
22. Mat Silver vs Tony Burt - Ultimate Wave (Paul van Dyk Rework)

---Not Broadcast---
23. Emmanuel Top - Turkish Bazar 2002 (Reeloop remix)
24. Digital Pressure - Aftershock (Paul van Dyk Re-Edit)
25. Mainx - 88 Piano (Paul van Dyk Rework)
-------------------

26. 14 Street - Children Trippin
27. Starchaser - Falling Star (Paul van Dyk Re-Edit)
28. ID
29. Lustral � Everytime (Nalin & Kane Remix)
30. DJ Vesiga vs. Jomar - Nightoperator (Club Mix)
31. Modulation - Spirits (Sluslik Luna Remix)
32. Ralphie B - Massive (Paul van Dyk Rework)
33. Telescreen - All Engines (Unknown remix)
34. Holden & Thompson - Nothing (93 Returning Mix)
35. Donald & Giles - Weekend Wonder (Donald & Giles Mix)
36. Rank 1 - Airwave 2003 (Breathing) (Breaks Dub)
37. Masters & Nickson - 5th Dimension (Instrumental)
38. The Thrillseekers - Synaesthesia (En-Motion Remix)
39. Polaris - Ripples Driver (Paul van Dyk Rework)
40. Nick Lunn & YOMC pres Techno Punx - Energize (Paul van Dyk Re-Edit)
41. Agnelli & Nelson pres. Ultra � Nothing
42. Nu-NRG � Dreamland
43. Project Zero - Omega Six (Paul van Dyk Rework)
44. Ruff Driverz - Dreamin' (Percussion Remix)

Encore 1
45. Paul van Dyk ft. Vega 4 - Time Of Our Lives (PvD Time To Chill Mix)

Encore 2
46. Paul van Dyk - Nothing But You (Original Mix)

wow i was there

Posted by NYCTrancefan on Nov-04-2003 01:46:

Okay guys here is my question to you all, what would you guys want to see him play, all suggestions welcomed. I am looking at it from his perspective of what can he play that is different or original, other than some different mixes of Reflections. I am going to Roxy and I am almost sure that we will here a lot of these songs mentioned, because of the album and the length of the set he will play as well. I would love for him to play some songs from his Global CD such as Forbidden Fruit, Seven Ways, Beautiful Place, Animacion, and I feel he will have to. Just drink some beers, get a buzz and fly away with the smooth sounds.

Posted by Greedy on Nov-04-2003 01:48:

i would like to see him stop playin PVD reworks and remixes. Its getting to a point where i starting to believe that he plays a lot of reworks for mixing ease.

Posted by capricorn15 on Nov-04-2003 02:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Busy Child
i would like to see him stop playin PVD reworks and remixes. Its getting to a point where i starting to believe that he plays a lot of reworks for mixing ease.

i dont think he needs to make mixing easy, it is probably easy enough for him. why he does that rework crap, i dont fuckin know.

Posted by Ghostface on Nov-04-2003 03:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance(PL)
Yes his sets are getting old. Get new stuff.

simple yet correct.

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