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Posted by jester on Nov-04-2003 21:17:

I'm unhappy with some of their tunes they produced like, Acid Eillet, what do u expect American rap somehow has to get into trance music and pop culture, argh!

D A M N rap and pop music CULTURE worst music! Whats next Shania Twain!


Posted by TrAnCe CoNtRoL on Nov-04-2003 21:51:

i think mako said it best before. "music is subjective. just because you dont like it doesnt mean its not good." or something along those lines.


Posted by m0sh on Nov-04-2003 22:21:

Jeez....grow up...so much bullshit in one thread

BTW , dave gahan "i need you" g and d remix pwnz you all

quote:
they're allowed to throw a bone to a pop artist every now and then


wtf is up with you guys , this is so stupid.
BULLSHIT, they could remix pop aslong as they wan't aslong as the remixes are good...I don't get it , stop being childish and pathetic


Posted by Incantation_UK on Nov-04-2003 22:31:

I think its a possibility that they did the Britney remix as a challenge, to convert a commercial pop music into a sweet sounding dance song, or from some people's perspectives a bad song into a good song.


Posted by tango on Nov-04-2003 22:41:

quote:
Originally posted by m0sh
Jeez....grow up...so much bullshit in one thread

BTW , dave gahan "i need you" g and d remix pwnz you all


AGREE!

Unplugged Mix is the best G&D remix of 2003

grtz,
TNG


Posted by montie on Nov-04-2003 23:24:

many of their remixs do sound quite similar. you can normally spot their mixs by the beat used and the long drawn out tracks.
i think they do need to be a little bit more innovative in the future. but the stuff they are putting out now is still quite quality.
i wouldn't consider any of their remixs my fav stuff.
but some of my fav. songs are "use only the drugs/music" and "wave 3" these songs are insane.

and people so what if they are going "commercial" or getting popular. good for them. i'd like lots of money in my pocket.
whats annoying is when people get all annoyed when some great artist gets big, but those people who whine about it are the ones going "OMG OMG OMG have you heard this song by this artist, OMG this new artists pownz l33t blah blah blah more stupid spelling of words.


Posted by NYCTrancefan on Nov-04-2003 23:34:

Re: Re: Gabriel and Dresden Losing Steam...

quote:
Originally posted by djr-man
lol You people make me sick with your Annoying stupid Comments what you call Opinions to get out of it... Why dont you look at it in a better way... You actually thing G&D sound has been going bad? lol Then I would recomend you to just go and listen to Hiphop R&B or some Hardcore for all I care... G&D Sound has been getting Better and Better.. And I am very happy for them actually because not many Electronic music producers Can get their names out into the pop world to Promote electronic music... For some point I stop to think I dont want Electonic music to go Mainstream... But with Beautiful Productions by Sander k, Junkie Xl, Infusion, G&D, Markus Schulz, Trifactor etc.. When a Pop music is remixed it at least gives those Closeminded pop listeners another Chance to look at the Electronic music... And where is this Fuckin Hate coming from anyways? Is it fuckin Jelousy? Or is it just people with nothing to do just wanna have an Opinion of some kind... Stop that shit.. ELECTRONIC MUSIC IS ALL ABOUT LOVE.. And to me ITS ALL ABOUT MUSIC... If I see you doing a Production like G&D I would really respect you for your music.. But for making a stupid commment lik you did here i cant respect you... but i dont hate you either :P JUST LOVE THE MUSIC MAN... You dont like it? Dont listen to it.. Sad thing is after you people talk shit you still go and listen to EVERY SINGLE G&D Production... I LOVE G&D and I KNOW HOW TALLENTED THESE GUYS ARE... And I DONT CARE WHO THEY REMIX... DOESNT MATTER AT ALL..

AS I SAY " LOVE LIFE, LIVE MUSIC "


I fully and utterly concur with you. Its about the music, enjoy people. Not every G&D production is going to be liked by everyone, but I guarantee you the positives outweigh the negatives. Admit it how many of you in here are listening to a G&D production right now


Posted by DJ_D|ABL0_ on Nov-04-2003 23:40:

I'm sorry, I definately don't agree

quote:

kristine w-save my_soul(gabriel_and_dresden)
lili_haydn-anything(gabriel and dresden remix)


I love these two remixes and would happily put them up against any other G&D remix.

No way downward spiral - stop winging and start supporting.


Posted by Rakoon on Nov-04-2003 23:52:

Party Hat

You guys are funny. You think that by arguing you're going to change the world or something.


Posted by Konijn on Nov-04-2003 23:54:

quote:
Originally posted by m0sh
Jeez....grow up...so much bullshit in one thread

BTW , dave gahan "i need you" g and d remix pwnz you all



wtf is up with you guys , this is so stupid.
BULLSHIT, they could remix pop aslong as they wan't aslong as the remixes are good...I don't get it , stop being childish and pathetic


relax there big guy...

the "throwing a bone" comment was said tongue-in-cheek


Posted by j�c� on Nov-05-2003 00:00:

my love for G&D started at their remix of Summer Calling
and it ended right there too

not saying they are bad producers, they definately have a large amount of talent, just not my cup of tea


Posted by djSlain on Nov-05-2003 00:00:

i think most of their productions and remixes are pretty straight. sure there are a few that would be considered lackluster, but it's definently not over for them. and for all the dummies who keep saying it's about the money, i believe these are the biggest artists who have done more for trance by promoting bootlegs, clearly not for the money.

oh ya, and tranceaddict.com really needs to ban the word "commercial" because it's been proven time after time that people just don't understand what this means.


Posted by capricorn15 on Nov-05-2003 00:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Rakoon
You guys are funny. You think that by arguing you're going to change the world or something.


hahaha

many of you complain about cookie cutter trance, well im tired of this cookie cutter complaining thread. we have seen a thread almost exactly like this, why make a new one


Posted by Excite on Nov-05-2003 00:18:

speedracer_mec i think you're the only one "losing steam"

just look and listen to all their quality productions this year. there's too many to write not to mention motorcycle - ATRC and andain - beautiful things!!


Posted by speedracer_mec on Nov-05-2003 00:53:

yeah its weird...

im prolly one of the few who prefer andain-summercalling as opposed to beautiful things...i loved the darkness surrounding the tune.


im just gonna sit back and watch the show..in the upcoming years and see where these guys go.


imo they need to go back to their oldskool


Posted by speedracer_mec on Nov-05-2003 01:02:

Re: Re: Gabriel and Dresden Losing Steam...

quote:
Originally posted by djr-man
lol You people make me sick with your Annoying stupid Comments what you call Opinions to get out of it... Why dont you look at it in a better way... You actually thing G&D sound has been going bad? lol Then I would recomend you to just go and listen to Hiphop R&B or some Hardcore for all I care... G&D Sound has been getting Better and Better.. And I am very happy for them actually because not many Electronic music producers Can get their names out into the pop world to Promote electronic music... For some point I stop to think I dont want Electonic music to go Mainstream... But with Beautiful Productions by Sander k, Junkie Xl, Infusion, G&D, Markus Schulz, Trifactor etc.. When a Pop music is remixed it at least gives those Closeminded pop listeners another Chance to look at the Electronic music... And where is this Fuckin Hate coming from anyways? Is it fuckin Jelousy? Or is it just people with nothing to do just wanna have an Opinion of some kind... Stop that shit.. ELECTRONIC MUSIC IS ALL ABOUT LOVE.. And to me ITS ALL ABOUT MUSIC... If I see you doing a Production like G&D I would really respect you for your music.. But for making a stupid commment lik you did here i cant respect you... but i dont hate you either :P JUST LOVE THE MUSIC MAN... You dont like it? Dont listen to it.. Sad thing is after you people talk shit you still go and listen to EVERY SINGLE G&D Production... I LOVE G&D and I KNOW HOW TALLENTED THESE GUYS ARE... And I DONT CARE WHO THEY REMIX... DOESNT MATTER AT ALL..

AS I SAY " LOVE LIFE, LIVE MUSIC "


no hate nor jealously...just opening my eyes and seeing how some of their recent remixes havent been my cup of tea.

relax and slowly pull the dildo out ur ass..


Posted by Snooper on Nov-05-2003 01:04:

I agree that G&D are losing it. ATRC was a great tune, but that's the only good work they've done this year as I see it. Their latest remix of Britney and Madonna was pure crap. Still, things can improve i guess.


Posted by speedracer_mec on Nov-05-2003 01:05:

quote:
Originally posted by trancEyes22
i cannot believe there is YET another thread about this...ffs.

those songs listed ALL rock, and how does a REMIX make a song commercial? who the fuck cares if it is britney spears or jewel? if they are turning that cheesy pop sound into wonderful trance melodies, then why does it matter? does that mean that you hate ANY song remixed? omigod, above and beyond just remixed as the rush comes again, IT MUST BE COMMERCIAL NOW!!!

give me a break. second of all, what the hell are you gonna prove by continuing to campaign against g&d/"mainstream" music? do you honestly think gabriel and dresden are gonna think to themselves, "wow, a lot of ta's are right. we suck"? NO!! how bout they dont care what the hell they remix or what the hell a few elitist snobs think. thats why they are the awesome producers they are today- they arent afraid to sample different types of music.

i think they are hands down the greatest producers ever. they create dark, sexy tracks, yet also danceable anthems like pavement cracks and this new britney one.

as for every song and every dj "becoming commercial", prove it. go out on the street and ask 10 people what the fork trance is, who tiesto is, and what the difference between epic and progressive trance is, and then see how damn commercial it is.


get over yourselves. you have made your point.


glad u expressed urself

matt darey is my alltime fav. producer for all his remixes from 98-2000


Posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 on Nov-05-2003 01:14:

Don't worry Speedracer, I was going through the same thing a couple months ago. Our threads are very similar, check out mine: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...sden+commercial


Posted by djr-man on Nov-05-2003 01:17:

Re: Re: Re: Gabriel and Dresden Losing Steam...

quote:
Originally posted by speedracer_mec
no hate nor jealously...just opening my eyes and seeing how some of their recent remixes havent been my cup of tea.

relax and slowly pull the dildo out ur ass..


lol write one more thing and I will let you have the last word. lol fuckin prick lol


Posted by torontotrance on Nov-05-2003 01:41:

Wait just a fucking minute, before you guys go jumping down poor speedracer_mec's fucking throat, think a minute. He started a thread that in his opinion was ok, he did not completely trash them, he produced evidence why he thought that gabriel and dresden were on the downward spiral. Let the poor dude have his opinion, he did not flame the artists and it was his opinion and tranceaddict is all about individual expressing their opinions in different forums about music. He showed why he thought a certain point was correct in his mind but you fail to remember that opinion is individual and everyone shares the point. Did'nt Dave Dresden kindly point out in a thread earlier (which vanished for some reason) that he did not care what people basically thought of him. Let's think here, speedracer_mec has been a longstanding member of the tranceaddict community and has behaved himself well (most of the time...then again..no one can be 100%) and he stated why he thought he that something was correct. If you don't agree with his opinion then kindly state why, not yelling at him for being an asshole or anything. Remember, everyone has different opinions and as long as they express it in a decent way, it should be ok.

About gabriel and dresden, I think their earlier works were better then again, have they been around that long? No and every artist goes thru tough times musically. I think it is all about opinion, then again, if speedracer_mec did not care about the music, he would not be posting.


Posted by teknofile on Nov-05-2003 01:50:

the G&D remix of Duncan Sheik, Grayarea, and Ils are so fucking sweet it's ridiculous...I have no clue what you wankers are talking about.


Posted by trancEyes22 on Nov-05-2003 01:55:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
Wait just a fucking minute, before you guys go jumping down poor speedracer_mec's fucking throat, think a minute. He started a thread that in his opinion was ok, he did not completely trash them, he produced evidence why he thought that gabriel and dresden were on the downward spiral. Let the poor dude have his opinion, he did not flame the artists and it was his opinion and tranceaddict is all about individual expressing their opinions in different forums about music. He showed why he thought a certain point was correct in his mind but you fail to remember that opinion is individual and everyone shares the point. Did'nt Dave Dresden kindly point out in a thread earlier (which vanished for some reason) that he did not care what people basically thought of him. Let's think here, speedracer_mec has been a longstanding member of the tranceaddict community and has behaved himself well (most of the time...then again..no one can be 100%) and he stated why he thought he that something was correct. If you don't agree with his opinion then kindly state why, not yelling at him for being an asshole or anything. Remember, everyone has different opinions and as long as they express it in a decent way, it should be ok.

About gabriel and dresden, I think their earlier works were better then again, have they been around that long? No and every artist goes thru tough times musically. I think it is all about opinion, then again, if speedracer_mec did not care about the music, he would not be posting.



then again, there have been several threads about gabriel and dresden and the britney song. it gets annoying to see 3 or 4 threads exactly the same.

i definitely respect other peoples opinions, and nor did i call him an asshole or anything. it just frustrates me to no end when people judge songs that were once created by pop artists. i think those songs are the best-- seeing the transformation. then again, thats my opinion.

i just can't stand the anti-commercial ta's....its like, who cares if the song is good!!! i sweat the new britney song, and i'd prolly like it if it were celine dion singing too. im not a fan of jewel, but i love all the markus/g&d remixes of her.

just give things a chance people...


Posted by torontotrance on Nov-05-2003 01:58:

I don't think his intent was to start another thread on purpose. Nor did I say you called him an asshole. I'm just saying that people tend to jump on valid opinions.


Posted by speedracer_mec on Nov-05-2003 02:26:

quote:
Originally posted by trancEyes22
then again, there have been several threads about gabriel and dresden and the britney song. it gets annoying to see 3 or 4 threads exactly the same.

i definitely respect other peoples opinions, and nor did i call him an asshole or anything. it just frustrates me to no end when people judge songs that were once created by pop artists. i think those songs are the best-- seeing the transformation. then again, thats my opinion.

i just can't stand the anti-commercial ta's....its like, who cares if the song is good!!! i sweat the new britney song, and i'd prolly like it if it were celine dion singing too. im not a fan of jewel, but i love all the markus/g&d remixes of her.

just give things a chance people...


hah...commercial tunes can be good chick

example- Garbage-stupid girl(leama and moor remix)
Justin timberlake-cry me a river(bill hamel remix)
Avril Lavigne-Im with you(leama and moor remix)
all radiohead remixes
Madonna remixes(some)

I dont care if it wasnt commercial or if it was commercial/classical/jazz or wutever.
The fact of the matter was i stated i didnt like the tune because of the tune itself. So relax...and dont come to the conclusion that people like me will hate a tune because its commercial. I dont like it period....Do u care?...I hope not....but it seems like u do since ur jumping on me.

Anyways...thanks andy


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