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Posted by Vivid Boy on Nov-09-2003 07:33:

photo no theres no new matter..hes travelling thats why they call it time travel...hes travelling from one destination from one time to a seperate destination in another time...he doesnt just pop up...well for us itt looks like that but for him he travelled here...i dunno science is hard to explain...

i dont think he is a time travele but i kinda wish he was....gives us hope in my opinion


Posted by nrjizer on Nov-09-2003 08:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
i dont think he is a time travele but i kinda wish he was....gives us hope in my opinion


3 Billion dead in a nuclear war gives us hope? Pfft...

I dont know why people are still even discussing the John Titor thing. Its like the War of the Worlds, a silly story to stir up morons with no education and crippling paranoia. Its a neat story, but if you beleive it to be true then you truly need to re-evaluate the quality of your education. I mean, this guy is carrying 2 singularities with enough mass to distort spacetime... in a briefcase in a chevy. Never mind that the gravity you'd need for such a time machine would literally crunch the earth into a tiny point within less than a second. And this is just the tip of the iceberg...

Time travel is certainly a possibility. But in 2036?. After a 8 year civil war that ends in a world wide nuclear war, on the very face of the earth, in a device the size of a briefcase? In the back of a chevy? Riiiiiiight....

The horse is dead. Stop beating it.


Posted by Cuervo79 on Nov-09-2003 09:10:

Cuervo picks up a stick and pokes the dead stinky horse....

I would think that Universities becoming forts he would be a little bit more educated, giving someone a time traveling device isn't just a matter of instructing someone like him (shutgun "infantry" at 13, and his views seem a little bit narrow) to go to the 50's to get a comp after doing what ever he wants in 01 stop and post on a forum ... and no no hope in his posts, to me he sounded like he agreed with the nuking. My point of view is from someone outside USA and its not pretty, also how come he wasn't aware of the rest of the world? I would think that after nuking a surviving militia would try to be informed more (still I guess him being just a peon wouldn't give him acces to information... lots of questions unanswered, And yes very good story for a book or a movie) yes its a hoax...


Posted by djSlain on Feb-09-2004 19:45:

rebellion and hatred toward western civilization...
isn't that what's happening now with the bush administration. i mean, a LOT of people are angry at the US from many countries for our current war.


Posted by nrjizer on Feb-09-2004 19:57:

Oh god please don't dig up the Titor bullshit again...

I can't remember where I saw it, but I already saw a page where his so called "time machine" had been correctly identified as a 1960's radiation detector. You can even still see the "Civil Defense" logo on it from the scans from the "manual" for the damn thing.

Titor has been throughly disproven. Please for the love of god let it die.


Posted by djSlain on Feb-09-2004 20:01:

he posted the manual. where can i find it?
BTW, the pictures of the controls on his space ship look a bit....dull. i thought everything in the future would be made of chrome and bling bling


Posted by Cuervo79 on Feb-10-2004 01:11:

LOL, it wasn't a space ship he used to time travel with, it was a normal car, the time machine was used in a normal car and the whole car traveled through time... check the whole thread there is a link for the titor page


Posted by Vivid Boy on Feb-10-2004 01:15:

he didnt predict this



Posted by Tranc3 on Feb-10-2004 02:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Cuervo79
LOL, it wasn't a space ship he used to time travel with, it was a normal car, the time machine was used in a normal car and the whole car traveled through time... check the whole thread there is a link for the titor page


Did he need 1.21 Jigawatts and a speed of 88 mph to travel through time? Was a flux capacitor involved?


Posted by meneedit on Feb-10-2004 02:31:

quote:
Originally posted by astroboy
Which laws in particular?... As far as I was aware, phycisists agree that time travel may theoretically be possible


please explain that shit.

oh wait, you cant

end of story


Posted by meneedit on Feb-10-2004 02:42:

everything seems to be nominal. wait! OH NO! OH DEAR! Get out of there Gordon!


Posted by meneedit on Feb-10-2004 02:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
he didnt predict this



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!


heheeeeeeeeee!!!!!!



ooohahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!


oh shit thanks, I needed that!!






P.S

Vivid Boy could you please email me sum more funny thread pics?

PM me.


Posted by Lira on Feb-10-2004 02:49:

He didn't say anything about Brazil, right? This is why I love my country... no matter what happens, nobody remembers of our existence even though we're the 3rd most important country in the whole American continent, so nothing bad ever happens to us in these predictions
quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy

What the~!?


Posted by EriK_V on Feb-10-2004 03:08:

sorry to bump this thread but, this guy is full of shit. Someone go take his "time machine" and shove it up his ass.


Posted by meneedit on Feb-10-2004 03:38:

^bump. my thoughts exactly.



by the way, check your PM's EriK_V


Posted by Tranceporter99 on Feb-10-2004 04:54:

quote:
Originally posted by astroboy
Which laws in particular?... As far as I was aware, phycisists agree that time travel may theoretically be possible


Indeed, pick up Richard C. Gotts- Time Travel in Einsteins Universe. Or any stephen hawking. it makes perfect sence

BTW, I saw richard gotta and another astro-physicst speak and got my books signed . Astro-Physics is one of my hobbys


Posted by Tranceporter99 on Feb-10-2004 04:56:

quote:
Originally posted by meneedit
please explain that shit.

oh wait, you cant

end of story


Yeah you can but i dont have a degree in astro-physics


Posted by Tranceporter99 on Feb-10-2004 04:57:

quote:
Originally posted by meneedit
everything seems to be nominal. wait! OH NO! OH DEAR! Get out of there Gordon!

hahah that game was badass, er is badass


Posted by SuperFarStucker on Feb-10-2004 05:01:

quote:
Originally posted by whiskers
a high school physics degree? i want one!


i skimmed over that 'professor's' email reply...

" The Schwarzchild radius for the electron mass " - wtf is that? i'm sure he meant the Schwarzschild radius for a black hole - search for " The Schwarzchild radius for the electron mass " on google and you'll see how irrelevant that is


and to back up john titor, i think what he meant by "black hole being a size of an electron" is that a black hole's SINGULARITY is infinitely small but infinitely dense / heavy. remember, he claimed to be a soldier, so i wouldn't suppose him to completely understand the physics of this.



i'm not saying john titor's story was true or not, i'm just saying that what this 'professor' is saying about the Schwarzschild equation is flawed IMO.
meaning the radius required for something with the mass of an electron to take on the properties of a blackhole.

quote:
For a body of a given mass, the radius beneath which that body's gravitational field will take on the properties of a Black Hole, preventing the escape of all matter and energy. The Schwarzchild radius represents an immensely compacted state - for example, it has been calculated that the Schwarzchild radius of the entire Earth is of the order of one centimetre. The forces required to collapse a body to this extent are such that only the most massive stars (far more massive than the Sun) have the potential to reach it.


he used in this context:

quote:
> If one assumes that the electron is a ball of uniform charge, and that
> the self-energy of all of this charge (bound together with some
> mythical charge-glue for which there isn't a shred of evidence to the
> best of my
> knowledge) is equal to the mass energy, then one gets (ignoring scalar
> factors of order unity and using "latex" to do ascii algebra, hopefully
> fairly clearly):
>
> \frac{ k e^2} {a} = m_e c^2
>
> which can be solved for a, the classical electron radius:
>
> a = \frac{k e^2}{m_e c^2} \approx 3 fm
>
> which is not at all coincidentally the same order as the size of the
> proton or the nucleus of your choice, which DOES confine a net charge
> of order e with a stronger attractive force but (consequently) has a
> much larger mass. The Schwarzchild radius for the electron mass is
> determined from a very similar computation (again neglecting scalar
> factors order unity)
>
> \frac{ G m_e^2} {r_s} = m_e c^2
>
> or
>
> r_s = \frac{G m_e^2}{m_e c^2} = \frac{G m_e}{c^2}
>
> which is number so tiny as to be meaningless (order 10^-57 meters,
> smaller than the Planck length and hence it IS meaningless).
>
> An amusing computation: Suppose r_s = 1 fm (somewhat smaller than "an
> electron"). Then m_BH = r_s*c^2/G, right? Plug 'n' chug. On my
> calculator, 10^-15 * 9x10^16/6.67x10^-11 \approx 10^12 kg. Let's see,
> that would be, um, a billion metric tons, the mass of a cube of water
> 1000 meters to the side (as 1000^3 = 10^9 and water conveniently
> masses a metric ton, 10^3 kg per cubic meter. How come nobody in your
> group actually did these simple computations?
>
> His suitcase contains TWO of these? He carried this suitcase on a 67
> Chevy? Man, they must put a hell of a suspension in those babies...


I guess what he is saying is that in order for something with the mass of an electron to create a singularity it needs to be smaller than the resolution of the known universe. I.E. the earth condenses down into 2 cm so something the size of an electron quite literally condenses into nothing.

I am not a physicist however so I might just be reading what he said wrong.


Posted by CKYTEP on Feb-10-2004 10:06:

this whole thing is a crock of shit... this is supposevly his departure video:

John Titor Departure Video


Posted by Psygnosis on Feb-10-2004 15:03:

Hoax or not, i think the moral of his appearance is just to mention and remind us that what is really happening around us and if we don't take caution or action then extreme consequences maybe follow. That's why i call this story having a blind vision morality, we see what we cannot really see... bla bla bla, not sure what i'm talking about

The bit about the 5100 computers is interesting though...


Posted by getfoul on Feb-10-2004 21:23:

i am not positive if it is time travel as well that it deals with, but i know string theory dabbles in that area... the 5th dimension.


Posted by whiskers on Feb-10-2004 21:37:

quote:
Originally posted by CKYTEP
this whole thing is a crock of shit... this is supposevly his departure video:

John Titor Departure Video



is it me, or is it way too coincidental that he spins around to find a perfect spot for his departure, and the camera just so happens to be pointed at that spot?


Posted by meneedit on Feb-10-2004 22:24:

quote:
Originally posted by CKYTEP
this whole thing is a crock of shit... this is supposevly his departure video:



ooohoooo I dunno it looks pretty real


Posted by davinox on Feb-10-2004 22:53:

hahahahahahha that video is funny


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