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I'm sharing iLLicit's humble opinion !!!!!

Thanks for that guys, you have been really helpful.

I think my main problem is not so much what I do with FL (and I agree it is a great tool, I use the studio version myself). I think my main issue was mastering.

Playing and making the music is easy enough (relatively speaking) but the main thing is that I find that I have trouble getting that proffessional richness that you get out of some tracks. At the moment I don't use a mastering program but will start to do so.

I think the other thing that frustrated me was pads. I like the atmosphere they give to a track and was finding the ones in FL a little plain perhaps. That could ofcourse be down to a lack of experience with the editing of sounds but on the whole I think that VSTs are the way to go for me.
I know you can do a lot with layers and various controlers on top of it, and frequently do.

I have actually been producing for some time now and find that a lot of the things that I did in the begining sound really flat. Each time I write something it teaches me something more. I have come to a point however that when I write tracks now I run out of CPU. Due to various things going on. Easy solution there though.

Will definately take some time out to learn more about sound programming too.

Many thanks guys
Nem

Ok, I guess I understood you wrong. If you have been producing for some time now and want a richer sound, you should definitely get some VST's. You can produce anything reasonable without them!

And for the richness of tracks, read some stuff about stereo imaging or where to put the different sounds. Also read some more about eq-ing and placing sounds in the whole spectrum.

I have been reading up on these things lately and I have discovered lots of things! Before that, I didn't use any eq-ing or compressing and my tracks sounded really bad. But after reading tons of articles on the subjects (you can find lots of them here on tranceaddict) my tracks have become more pro-sounding.

good luck!

terry,

sorry ive taken so long, what do you mean by reverbs. sorry 4 being thick im just starting and trying 2 learn all i can as i go along.

as 4 introspection i mean the first brake down where its like your floating. like wind noises!!!

have you been doing anymore tracks??

cheers

matt dyson

Nem,

You should check out my EQ tutorial on this forum. Do a search for

Equalization

You should also keep in mind that a lot of the polish you hear on "polished", or well-produced, tracks is the actual judicious choice of synths and sounds to begin with, not necessarily the application of a quality EQ or multiband compressor. That is to say, get your mix sounding right first with filters and fastidious sound selection, then concentrate on mastering. Good luck bud.

ok really do need some help with this now, the generators in fruity loops you can all make sound really good. mine sound shite and well more shite.

can ne one help with just one of them so could aply practise to them all in the end. just sort of give me a quich step by step of what to use in one of them coz its driving me mad!!!

cheers guys.

what do you mean ???? sound quality is poor ?

no not really just finding it hard to make any sort of decent sound i could put into one of my tunes.
people talk about them so much on here and how good they are but ive never got the hang of them. and i know i need to use them because my music sounds flat and basic.

any help would be very helpful,

matty

the answer to that is VST's..

go to this thread

or the sticky thread at the top for some good VST's

also check out www.kvr-vst.com .. the best VST site

install/unzip the .dll files for the VST into your flstudio4/plugins/vst folder, go to add channel, more... then do a fast scan and all the red ones are the newly recently added VST's...

But I would at least try to know how to get a decent lead and pads going using the 3xosc before you try using VST's as they are usually more complex...

If you need more help on fruity or VST's, just drop me a pm on what you need help with and i'll be glad to help you

use chopping
what i do is put down some chords like eg make a good string line then chop it cbf going to detail want me to send you my tutorial

that would be good thanx,

another thing im stuck on is how 2 make a simbol kind of noise when your building it up b4 the kick back in of the beat. anyidea what 2 use to make that kind of sound?

cheers

someone didn't say it yet and this guy looks pretty lost so there it goes: if you want anything good to come out from FL/any sequencing program you'll need to use effects (FX's). these, unlike instruments, modify the sound instead of creating it. the most typical FX's are flangers/phasers/choruses, reverb, delay and equalizers. by experimenting with this stuff you'll see you can learn a lot. but there's some rules to using it, not strict rules, but some stuff that people always use. for example, in the percussion you should try a bit of delay and reverb, while in the bassline you shouldn't put much reverb or any at all, but a lot of delay. again, search the forums a bit cause there's a lot about this.

other thing that will improve your sounds a lot is knowing how to use envelopes. they're built in inside of the instruments. try opening up some random sample, open the channel settings window, click on INS, then VOL, activate the envelope at the top and mess around with it.

and yet another thing i remembered, filters are very important. they are kinda like EQ'ing. low-pass filters will only let the low frequencies pass through, while high-pass will do the opposite. band-pass let the frequencies going though only in a specific band. in that same window you used for the envelopes, there's a very simple filter below. you can choose between different types of filters (LP - low pass, HP - high pass and so on), the cuttof setting (CUT) is for the frequency you want it to be cut, the ressonance (RES) i don't know really to explain it well without the help of a spectrum analyzer, just try it and you'll listen what it does.

this is just the basic of the basics and ends up my tutorial from a noob to a noob so, yeah, producing is really hard. you're gonna need to pratice A LOT and learn a lot by yourself if you wanna go anywhere in the music world.

as for that 'kind of noise', it's probably some percussion sample, like an hi-hat or something, or maybe try reversing an hi-hat sample and adding delay. just trying to guess, there a lot of stuff that can be described by a 'kind of noise'

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Originally posted by dbl yeah... the samples in fruity are shit.. so start look for new one's... check out the quality sample thread in the top and another tip is too take sounds out of other track's, like the kick, percussions and bass etc... work's best in the intro / outro mostly. program.. can help you alot

lol, is that legal??

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Originally posted by The Designer lol, is that legal??

Well, actually it isn't. But if you sample very short bits, like a bassdrum, snare or hihat, no-one will know which track you took it from.
The problem comes when you begin sampling different things, like vocals and effects.
But sampling occurs very often in the music industry, it's part of the creative process IMO...

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