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Originally posted by Vert Does it have the same pitch accuracy as the 1000? es

No it does not! The CDJ1000 changes pitch in 0.02% increments, while the 800 changes pitch in 0.05% increments. And on paper, that sounds like a big flaw, but I assure you, that you can mix flawlessly with the CDJ800s. I'm not sure if the 0.02% really makes that much of a difference, not a 400 dollar difference by any means.

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Originally posted by Inertia btw, does that rebate/headphone offer apply only to US buyers, or worldwide?

Sorry man, you have to be a US Resident in order to take advantage of the rebates. The only way around is if you have a friend/family in the US that can order them and mail them to you. Sorry

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Originally posted by Vert Does it have the same pitch accuracy as the 1000? es

its hard using pitch blend with the cdj's 800. it screws me up on most transitions. im still new to them bcuz i just brought one recently, if it gets better ill keep them, otherwise im gonna go get someting else.

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Originally posted by dj_moonshine its hard using pitch blend with the cdj's 800. it screws me up on most transitions. im still new to them bcuz i just brought one recently, if it gets better ill keep them, otherwise im gonna go get someting else.

Must be just u bro, my pitch bend works perfectly. You just have to get used to it, it's like when you buy a new video game, gotta get used to the controls to master it

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Originally posted by Ibiza Dreams Must be just u bro, my pitch bend works perfectly. You just have to get used to it, it's like when you buy a new video game, gotta get used to the controls to master it

very true, i got better at it yesterday. i might get better at it today, tommorow, and beyond.

which mixer is that?

prolly a shitringer, dont think its a pioneer djm

whats the pitch accuracy on the 800s?

my Denon DN-9000 has an accuracy of 0.1%
I know the CDJ1000/1000MK2 has 0.05% in +/-10% mode and 0.02% in +/-6% mode which is really really good

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nevermind, problem solved. this chart was very helpful

http://www.jvsl.de/djplanet/pdf/Verleich-CDJ1000-MK2-800.pdf

CDJ 800 is 0.05% on +/-6%

Just received my HDJ1000s in the mail from the rebate! Damn they're beautiful... sorry don't want to rub it in anyone's face, i'm just happy

I wonder where the $100 dollar rebate is at...

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Originally posted by Ibiza Dreams I wonder where the $100 dollar rebate is at...

You may wind up waiting 4-6 weeks for it. At least that's been my experience.

Ive had my eye on the CDJ1000MK2's for a while, but 2 of them are way over my budget

Im probably gonna be going with the 800's
just wondering, are these things solid built? all metallic, reinforced construction, etc?

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Originally posted by DeleriuM2K Ive had my eye on the CDJ1000MK2's for a while, but 2 of them are way over my budget Im probably gonna be going with the 800's just wondering, are these things solid built? all metallic, reinforced construction, etc?

Yes bro, they're solid, and much larger than the Denon in your avatar. Go to www.pioneerprodj.com, CDJ800, then hit the "Learning" tab to see it in action, it's the same as the CDJ1000s without some trivial features and in the color gray instead of black. They're not made of metal, but a very tough plastic. Works surprisingly well.

i dont know why, but i kep checking back at this topic
for some reason. damn, i need me a pair of these babies..

on another subject:

anyone burn mp3s to use with your CDJs?
as id probably be doing nothing more
than bedroom DJing for a while, it'd be ok,
but say, tracks that will NEVER be released,
but are on MP3, friends' productions and such,
i hear the mp3 qould sound shit on a club
system.

now, i notice some local (and very talented)
DJs, guys that have opened for jocks like
Diggers, Lawler, Deep Dish and such, use burned
CDs (from which im sure some are from mp3 source).
and there is really no noticeable difference
in sound quality. so how do they get around this
problem?

I've been using MP3s and they sound good through my HDJ1000s and through my 400 watt speakers... I don't understand what the problem would be if you were to use them on a louder system. I feel it's just the wrath of the "MP3 Haters" most of them being vinyl-spinners...

Bottom Line: If it sounds good on headphones and regular speakers, I don't see how it would sound "shit" on other speakers. Don't be too gullible.

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Originally posted by Ibiza Dreams Yes bro, they're solid, and much larger than the Denon in your avatar. Go to www.pioneerprodj.com, CDJ800, then hit the "Learning" tab to see it in action, it's the same as the CDJ1000s without some trivial features and in the color gray instead of black. They're not made of metal, but a very tough plastic. Works surprisingly well.

hey man, thanks for the link. that whole 'learning' section really sealed the deal for me buying a pair of these puppies good marketing on Pioneer's part

I also want to get 2 cdj-800s. About the mixer, is that a Behringer DJX700? If it is, how is it, can you give me a short review, I'm thinking of getting the same one

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Originally posted by DarkFall01 About the mixer, is that a Behringer DJX700? If it is, how is it, can you give me a short review, I'm thinking of getting the same one

I quite sure its the djx 700
if you don't need a mixer with more than 2 channels do not get this mixer!
get dxm06 insted (same price range)

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Originally posted by m0sh I quite sure its the djx 700 if you don't need a mixer with more than 2 channels do not get this mixer! get dxm06 insted (same price range)

Well, I'm gonna add 2 TT's after a while, so, I might still consider this one, unless I find something better in the same price range...

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Originally posted by Ibiza Dreams I've been using MP3s and they sound good through my HDJ1000s and through my 400 watt speakers... I don't understand what the problem would be if you were to use them on a louder system. I feel it's just the wrath of the "MP3 Haters" most of them being vinyl-spinners... Bottom Line: If it sounds good on headphones and regular speakers, I don't see how it would sound "shit" on other speakers. Don't be too gullible.

hmm, i kinda thought that too...

what bitrate do you use?

i can imagine you at least use 160kbps

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hey man, thanks for the link. that whole 'learning' section really sealed the deal for me buying a pair of these puppies good marketing on Pioneer's part

i thought the exact same thing when i saw it...

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Originally posted by DarkFall01 I also want to get 2 cdj-800s. About the mixer, is that a Behringer DJX700? If it is, how is it, can you give me a short review, I'm thinking of getting the same one

Hey bro, yes it is a DJX700. Most of the people that keep saying "Don't get this it sucks, get that instead" or "That mixer/table/equipment sucks" haven't even tried using one of them, not sure on what they are basing their opinions.

Again, seems like there are lots of haters on 700 because it's a copy of the DJM600 in a way. The mixer is BIG, larger than I thought. The sound quality is great, I can't notice any discrepancies, the faders are smooth and strong, and all the channels work like they should. I have my 2 CDJs hooked up to my mixer and also I have my Computer hooked up, so I can play MP3s through the mixer directly from my comp if I need to. It has 3 OUTPUT sources... Main, Booth, and Tape (aka Record). I have one output going to my main speakers and the Booth output going to my computer so I can broadcast my live mixing over the internet. It works great and it's a great 4-channel mixer, it has split-cue for headphones, accurate kill-switches highs,mids,lows, etc. It DOES have alot of effects, but I'll tell you straight-up, don't buy it for the effects, they really are not very impressive. You can always buy an effects equipment like the Pioneer EFX 500 or the new one also coming out on Behringer... The Tweakaliser (click for pic)

It does have a nice XPQ surround option that makes the sound seem alot wider which is pretty nice. One of the main reasons I bought it is because it is a copy of the DJM600, and if I ever get a job at a club, most of the big clubs I know of have a DJM500 or 600, so you will be able to play on the Pioneer like a pro. I've spun on an Allen & Heath Xone 32, and to tell you the truth, the DJX700 doesn't have much to envy from all the other mixers. It's a great deal, Customer Service is also top-notch.

Ah y por cierto Darkfall, de que parte de Espa�a eres?

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Originally posted by Inertia hmm, i kinda thought that too... what bitrate do you use? i can imagine you at least use 160kbps

All of my MP3s range from 192 to 320, I don't like going lower than 192, it's become a pet peeve almost. And most 192 rips sound damn good, I can't tell the difference from a 192 MP3 to the actual CD track. I truly can't understand how an MP3 at 192 could sound like SHIT (as others say) at a club. I'll let you know once I try it
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Ok I just watched the Jog Dial video on the pioneerprodj.com website about the CDJ1000... the platter isnt constantly spinning? Im guessing its the same with the 800 which is what I plan to get

from what I understand, when you put a little bit of backwards motion on the platter, the sound will reverse, like a scrath. but if it isnt constantly spinning, how are you supposed slow a track down - such as when your in the middle of a mix and your incoming track is a beat ahead (and your bpm's are matched) so you want to slow in coming track down for a beat and then let go when it's aligned...

this is not possible if the platter isnt constantly spinning. with a turntable, when you put a bit of pressure on the vinyl while it is spinning forward, it continues to spin forward, just slowlier. but in this caes, if pull the platter back a bit, it will reverse the track - not slow it down

is this the difference between the vinyl and CD modes? how does this work?

edit: if only I was patient enough to watch the next video
the grooves on the side of the platter, although are stationary, will push or pull the track.

there is nothing regarding pitch bend (what I was talking about) on the website for the 800, only the 1000. is the 800 the same as the 1000 in this respect?

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Originally posted by DeleriuM2K there is nothing regarding pitch bend (what I was talking about) on the website for the 800, only the 1000. is the 800 the same as the 1000 in this respect?

Right, if you put a bit of pressure on the top of the platter, you can scratch and reverse and spin the track forward. The grooves on the side of the platter will act like a pitch bend forward or back, so when you beat match, you move the side of the platter (grooves) forward or back to match the beats, just like a turntable.

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Originally posted by Ibiza Dreams CDJ 800 is 0.05% on +/-6%

I thought it was +/- 10% mate?

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Originally posted by Ibiza Dreams I've been using MP3s and they sound good through my HDJ1000s and through my 400 watt speakers... I don't understand what the problem would be if you were to use them on a louder system. I feel it's just the wrath of the "MP3 Haters" most of them being vinyl-spinners... Bottom Line: If it sounds good on headphones and regular speakers, I don't see how it would sound "shit" on other speakers. Don't be too gullible.

Not to nitpick andres but the only way you can tell the difference is obviously by a comparison. If you get the chance sometime in the near future then compare an mp3 playing through some quality monitors with a flat response, to vinyl, or a pressed CD. You can't make a comparison if you don't have vinyl to compare to, or a studio oriented set of speakers.

****, MP3s fo' life!

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