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Posted by lethal on Nov-16-2003 23:51:

Sid what country do you live in?? remember it IS illegal to dis australia!!

And lets all be completely honest here, England didnt win on the weekeend....

The final score was:

Wilkinson - 24, france - 7....


Posted by OLi_A on Nov-17-2003 00:21:

it is the australian way to dislike the english
actually i think its every countries way

quote:
Originally posted by lethal
Sid what country do you live in?? remember it IS illegal to dis australia!!


like an extremely insignificant act of treason


i got to watch the aus vs nz match last night and have to say australia obviously wanted to win more than nz. carlos spencer is a mad player but he kept drifting off larkham and he was slicin him up. someone has to smash that lanky fuck. also spencer isnt the type of player to turn a match on its head (as mentioned by another ta). in parts of that 2nd half he wasnt in at first reciever when he should have been cause his forwards werent going forward like they normally do.
youve gotta feel sorry for em cause when they get back they will be castrated

q: who else was hoping serge betsen broke wilkensons ribs on that late hit (which he wouldve got away with he didnt give away so many penalties before)


Posted by Spang on Nov-17-2003 00:46:

Worst game of rugby i have ever seen and being out there surrounded by a wall of english fans being soaked by the rain didnt help either.

Sooo many mistakes. It was like watching an under 12's team play. When i got home i watched it again on fox to see the stats at the end. 35 handling errors, only 3 line breaks and not one team was able to string together 5+ phases. Very dissapointing at this level and stage of the tournament to see such a sloppy game. Sure it was raining but it is my understanding that id rains in England all the time!!

I feel there is something wrong with the ball or the surface of the ball. In nearly all the games i have watched, as soon as i drop of water hits it, it turns to soap. I dont think i have seen so many knock on's before in a world cup and im sure the players skill levels arent to blame.

Oh well, the final this week should be awsome. Australia should be pretty confindent after last nights performance. Unless England can get it together like Austalia did last week, i think we are in with a great chance.

Up the WALLABIES!!

p.s. i should become a commentator


Posted by arctic on Nov-17-2003 07:33:

@ Oli: No you aren't. I almost punched the fucking tv after sitting through 60 minutes of 'get in the French half, pass to Johnny, kick field goal', or 'france gets turnover, knocks on, then Johnny kicks goal'. They didn't even appear to want to get a try, they were just happy to let Johnny kick all game. Boring as hell


Posted by Ian on Nov-17-2003 12:03:

quote:
Originally posted by arctic
@ Oli: No you aren't. I almost punched the fucking tv after sitting through 60 minutes of 'get in the French half, pass to Johnny, kick field goal', or 'france gets turnover, knocks on, then Johnny kicks goal'. They didn't even appear to want to get a try, they were just happy to let Johnny kick all game. Boring as hell


result over performance mate

too often we've played nice & done nothing, I guess this style won't win many fans, but at the end of the day, in 20 years time, if we can look back & say 'England Won' then no1 will care if it was boring or amazing. Personally I'd like to see us at least go at it a bit more, but the guys are doing what they do, and since england win fuck all, if we do win i'll be happy


Posted by Romp on Nov-17-2003 12:50:

Of the games England have played against quality opposition in this world cup I think they have scored a total of 2 tries, 1 of which was off a charge down

The Welsh outscored them 3 tries to 1 and the French 1 try to 0!

Seriously if England beat Australia and score less tries than them then I think they need to look at some rule changes, eg tries 6 points, drop goals 2 points :P

The teams which throw the ball wide and play attacking and entertaining Rugby should be rewarded. Fair play to England they have an excellent game plan built around Willkinson's boot, but really...


Posted by arctic on Nov-17-2003 13:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian^
result over performance mate

too often we've played nice & done nothing, I guess this style won't win many fans, but at the end of the day, in 20 years time, if we can look back & say 'England Won' then no1 will care if it was boring or amazing. Personally I'd like to see us at least go at it a bit more, but the guys are doing what they do, and since england win fuck all, if we do win i'll be happy


You fail to see the point. I wasted 80 minutes of my life on your miserable country when I could have been studying for exams

Buttsex with Prince Charles and stfu


Posted by Ian on Nov-17-2003 13:17:

quote:
Originally posted by arctic
You fail to see the point. I wasted 80 minutes of my life on your miserable country when I could have been studying for exams

Buttsex with Prince Charles and stfu



actually they think charlie may be gay but don't put a horrible thought like that into my mind... buttseckz is for eleni & other sexy greeks

to be fair i couldn't be arsed to get up for the game, i got up for t he last 20 minutes like so i saw the end, we were a few months ago scoring many tries tho and we'll see if we have it in us to do so again this weekend, good luck and may the best team win


Posted by arctic on Nov-17-2003 13:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian^
actually they think charlie may be gay but don't put a horrible thought like that into my mind... buttseckz is for eleni & other sexy greeks

to be fair i couldn't be arsed to get up for the game, i got up for t he last 20 minutes like so i saw the end, we were a few months ago scoring many tries tho and we'll see if we have it in us to do so again this weekend, good luck and may the best team win


Why do you think I made a Butsexx joke about Charles eh?
That whole thing got a lot of coverage down here, found it pretty funny myself

Oh yes, the rugby. I can't wait for it, but I wont go out an predict a winner. Partly because I don't want to put my foot in it, and partly because I think the teams are pretty even, and imo either could win if they play well.


Posted by Sid on Nov-17-2003 16:23:

hahahahahaha Lee, yes I have committed an act of treason !

They should seriously turn Rugby Union into soccer. I mean seriously, its such an anti spectacle when a team wins, simply on the fact that they have a good goal kicker ! forget about the main aim of the game, which is scoring tries ! just play good field position and hope the ref blows a penalty so your ace goal kicker can win you the game ! what a load of crap ! in protest I shall not watch the Final (not that it means anything, but its my way of saying Union sucks)

Bring on da NRL grand final anyday of the week. People say "Oh league isn't internationaly recognised, so Union is a better game" well fuck you to those people I say, if you call this farce of a World cup a game, then you have serious issues !

Sorry but I just couldn't handle it anymore !lol


Posted by Ian on Nov-17-2003 17:07:

quote:
Originally posted by S_madis
hahahahahaha Lee, yes I have committed an act of treason !

They should seriously turn Rugby Union into soccer. I mean seriously, its such an anti spectacle when a team wins, simply on the fact that they have a good goal kicker ! forget about the main aim of the game, which is scoring tries ! just play good field position and hope the ref blows a penalty so your ace goal kicker can win you the game ! what a load of crap ! in protest I shall not watch the Final (not that it means anything, but its my way of saying Union sucks)

Bring on da NRL grand final anyday of the week. People say "Oh league isn't internationaly recognised, so Union is a better game" well fuck you to those people I say, if you call this farce of a World cup a game, then you have serious issues !

Sorry but I just couldn't handle it anymore !lol


Stupid thing is England in football have lacked a decent left sided player for years and u got wilko with his in rugby, maybe he needs a change


Posted by Paulie on Nov-17-2003 23:59:

LOL @ clueless dipshits


Scoring tries is only part of the game, especially in union. What england did was tactically brilliant. Used their strengths to their advatange. And if i remember correctly, ball handling wasnt the easiest on sunday nite because of the wet, hence the importance of a good kicking game. Its the same dipshits when the football world cup comes on they bitch and moan about teams being too defence minded. pffft.


Posted by jizza on Nov-18-2003 03:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Paulie
LOL @ clueless dipshits


Scoring tries is only part of the game, especially in union. What england did was tactically brilliant. Used their strengths to their advatange. And if i remember correctly, ball handling wasnt the easiest on sunday nite because of the wet, hence the importance of a good kicking game. Its the same dipshits when the football world cup comes on they bitch and moan about teams being too defence minded. pffft.


all i hope for is that the most entertaining and enterprising team will win on the day, as much as it pains me to say it - australia look like the only team who are capable of such a brand of football.

i hope england proves me wrong, i really do.

woohoo go all blacks!!! go for bronze like all the other sports you've managed to excel at.


Posted by Antistatic on Nov-18-2003 03:50:

quote:
Originally posted by jizza
woohoo go all blacks!!! go for bronze like all the other sports you've managed to excel at.

hahahaha!


Posted by Sid on Nov-18-2003 04:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian^
Stupid thing is England in football have lacked a decent left sided player for years and u got wilko with his in rugby, maybe he needs a change


and the great thing is he can kick with both left and right, so when pretty boy beckham gets injured, he can switch to the right.


Posted by Sid on Nov-18-2003 04:24:

quote:
Originally posted by jizza
all i hope for is that the most entertaining and enterprising team will win on the day, as much as it pains me to say it - australia look like the only team who are capable of such a brand of football.


couldn't agree more ! sport is suppose to be entertaining, after all its a GAME, and the entire point of a game is to entertain. Anyone can build Great Walls of China and call it a great tactical ploy on there behalf, but where's the spirit ? where's the entertainment in that ?


Posted by OLi_A on Nov-18-2003 11:57:

lol at paulie dissing rugby then making educated opinion

ive seen england play enterprising rugby and it was this year too (six nations). they should play like that all the time, give their fliers some ball to work with

sid bro those are some big calls....the world cup is too important in the scheme of things to be enterprising like fiji and samoa were, even wales surprised us all. league is a simple game for simple minds (for players i mean). what you should all watch is sevens rugby, that is a fuckin spectacle. england hasnt got a hope in hell winning in that game
my prediction....
i will knock up the queen and win the world cup


Posted by Sid on Nov-18-2003 12:11:

I'm looking at it from a spectators point of view, and me being a spectator !lol I can't hack the brand of union many of the teams are adopting. As I said, it takes away from the spectacle, which is the Rugby World Cup.


Posted by Paulie on Nov-18-2003 12:14:

ahaha yeh oli_a i must admit i have watched the rugby (btw i was gonna delete that post). I like my sports and you would tend to agree all these people that come out with rule changes are the ones that watch the game every 4 years like in soccer. I shouldn't be dissing other sports, thats just narrow minded


Posted by OLi_A on Nov-18-2003 12:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Paulie
ahaha yeh oli_a i must admit i have watched the rugby (btw i was gonna delete that post). I like my sports and you would tend to agree all these people that come out with rule changes are the ones that watch the game every 4 years like in soccer. I shouldn't be dissing other sports, thats just narrow minded


nah narrow mindedness is cool
AND ITS FOOTBALL NOT SOCCER!!


Posted by OLi_A on Nov-18-2003 12:27:

quote:
Originally posted by S_madis
I'm looking at it from a spectators point of view, and me being a spectator !lol I can't hack the brand of union many of the teams are adopting. As I said, it takes away from the spectacle, which is the Rugby World Cup.


the rwc was the irb's way of sending more trash to australia (the irb being english based hence rule changes favouring them..hmmmmmm)


Posted by TheMan on Nov-21-2003 06:43:

quote:
Originally posted by lethal
Wilkinson 24 - France 7


Wrong wrong wrong - sure Wilkinson scored all the points, but he relies totally on the forward pack! England's forwards push forward with the rolling mauls and straight runs to get good central field position, then set up an umbrella around Wilkinson to give him time to set up his drop goals.

I think Australia will do much better against England than the French did, especially if we play like we did against the Kiwis. England's defence is brittle around the edges, Robinson is a good player but when he's facing off against Tuqiri, Sailor, Mortlock and Rogers. Once we start running the ball wide and not dropping it, I think we'll make some excellent gains. Consider that our outside backs managed to shut down Howlett, Rokocoko and Muliaina last weekend, England's outside backs are definitely less fearsome.

George Smith and Phil Waugh (players of the tournament for mine) will also put much more pressure on the English breakdown than the French did, spoiling the amount of clean ball that Wilkinson gets, and pinching the ball for quick turnovers.

The weather will also play an important part - the weather here in Sydney has been hot and humid the last two days, hopefully this continues. The heat will slow England down tremendously in the last 20 minutes, but rain will definitely play against us (as our handling errors are well known - rain will only increase these and make try-scoring difficult, while England don't rely on as much passing as we do).

Should be a very close game, but I think Australia will come out on top. Fingers crossed.


Posted by escee on Nov-21-2003 06:48:

nice summary


Posted by TheMan on Nov-21-2003 06:55:

Thanks, I've watched more rugby this past month than I've watched in the rest of my lifetime


Posted by bent on Nov-22-2003 09:58:

DAMMIT WENDELL YOU POOPOOHEAD


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