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Re: Re: Re: 3 pma pills found recently in europe

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Originally posted by Evmac You might have seen these before because they actually exist (in E not PMA) People can get those presses and just make those PMA pills look like PMA. And like what people said before its all about Profit for some of these sick fucks that make these killer pills. PMA looks like a double tablet I heard.

Yes, for profit.

Double tablets. That's just conjecture. When I was experimenting with E, the ones I took [Nintendo and Triple X] were almost twice the size of normal pills. The normal sized ones didn't do much to me, but the almost double sized ones took me for a ride on the Milky Way.

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Originally posted by u4ea:[soulstar] Isn't that rather an uncommon occurence of finding gel caps? What do you mean by pure? I only tried gel caps twice during two different occasions. First time, I got a slight buzz. Second time, I sniffed 1/3 of it: Shabang! Hallalujah! You might be right with the gel caps being better, but I haven't tried enough to know for sure. Ultra-fanatic. Great, we got psychopaths with a moral agenda? Ahem err, you might be getting a PM from err someone. haha

Those gel caps are very hard to find. Lets just say some friends of mine made a big purchase once they heard my friend has them available

what i heard on a talk show was from a persons daughter who died from the pma. they had 1 pill of the pma (fake e) and they didnt feel anything after 2 hours so they took another, and then died of a pma overdose. not sure if this has always been the case

ok but i think ive already had the 2nd 1...it looks like the pizza laying on our dishcloth i had the other day hehe j/k

...and wow is every1 a druggy in here or what??flippin ek

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Originally posted by TrAnCe CoNtRoL what i heard on a talk show was from a persons daughter who died from the pma. they had 1 pill of the pma (fake e) and they didnt feel anything after 2 hours so they took another, and then died of a pma overdose. not sure if this has always been the case

Well, I have had to had different "supermannetjes" then, because:

1) I took one, and mixed it with an MDMA-pill (aaaaa..that scorpion was.....aaaa..heaven )..and I'm still alive...

2) my friend took 3 and a half....and an MDMA pill, cuz these "supermannetjes" didn't work...and he's still ma sweet neighbour!!

I'd say: guys..don't worry..if you gotta go, you gotta go

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Originally posted by Dj Martijn ...and wow is every1 a druggy in here or what??flippin ek

I think using the word druggy is rather harsh! Would I call everyone who drinks and alcoholic? Its so convenient when you can just say things like "drugs are bad" when there are so many kinds with different health risks. But I especially hate being called druggie in that negetive way since I know a great deal about what I'm putting into my body and the related risks involved. I'm smart and I resent people thinking I'm somehow lesser than them since I partake in something that the ever wise, never wrong (prohabition) government decided is best for us. If the logic used to ban marijuana was consistant today, we would have banned alcohol and cigaretes.

Want an interesting tid-bit, did you know the 2 largest contributors in the USA for anti-drug commercials, seminars, foundations, etc, is none other than 'Big tobacco' and Alcohol companies I'm sure they are just giving generously for our health benefit. Of course they aren't worried about the very possible legalization of marijuana hurting their legal drug

Responsible use of certain illegal drugs is not any worse than drinking alcohol, some are even safer. So please keep that in mind when you group anything illegal under one convenient description like illegal drugs.

I wouldn't compare a bottle of vodka to a bottle of wine, why would you compare heroin to marijuana for example

I'm speaking in general here martin, not directing this all at you, but it seems to often people catagorize it all under the same thing which is very wrong.

i agree thor!!

hmm miss p u mixed your pills.. then u may have very well had pma(the effects are not standard for everyone).. or u couldve had a real mdma pill(u prolly did).. thats not saying that all the supermans are pma just that there are ones.. believe it cause that info came from dancesafe.. a very reliable source. and just think u got lucky if u got mdma cause w/o testing how would u have known? fake pills are usually copycats of real mdma pills.. so that the maker has a greater chance of distributing them cause the name is already trust worthy of a good pill.. so people dont suspect. just be careful.. peace!! -layla

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Originally posted by Thor I think using the word druggy is rather harsh! Would I call everyone who drinks and alcoholic? Its so convenient when you can just say things like "drugs are bad" when there are so many kinds with different health risks. But I especially hate being called druggie in that negetive way since I know a great deal about what I'm putting into my body and the related risks involved. I'm smart and I resent people thinking I'm somehow lesser than them since I partake in something that the ever wise, never wrong (prohabition) government decided is best for us. If the logic used to ban marijuana was consistant today, we would have banned alcohol and cigaretes. Want an interesting tid-bit, did you know the 2 largest contributors in the USA for anti-drug commercials, seminars, foundations, etc, is none other than 'Big tobacco' and Alcohol companies I'm sure they are just giving generously for our health benefit. Of course they aren't worried about the very possible legalization of marijuana hurting their legal drug Responsible use of certain illegal drugs is not any worse than drinking alcohol, some are even safer. So please keep that in mind when you group anything illegal under one convenient description like illegal drugs. I wouldn't compare a bottle of vodka to a bottle of wine, why would you compare heroin to marijuana for example I'm speaking in general here martin, not directing this all at you, but it seems to often people catagorize it all under the same thing which is very wrong.

yeah i guess so. it's just i don't c y ppl must be on a high 2 enjoy themselves. is not bein with ur m8s havin a laugh goin round clubs fun enuf without puttin ur body at risk and bein on a huge low afterwards

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Originally posted by Dj Martijn yeah i guess so. it's just i don't c y ppl must be on a high 2 enjoy themselves. is not bein with ur m8s havin a laugh goin round clubs fun enuf without puttin ur body at risk and bein on a huge low afterwards

see thats where everything goes wrong.. that people see it as we must be high to have fun.. this is not true.. or we would have to be high 24/7.. i dont get high to have fun.. i can do that all the time on my own.. and i do.. i get high because i enjoy the high.. just like u would eat chocolate cake because u like chocolate cake. or you would go swimming because u like going swimming. i like to trip so i take acid. but i have fun all the time w/o it.. its like a recreation i do it cause i enjoy it. not because i dont enjoy anything else. peace!!

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Originally posted by theeyesofdarkness see thats where everything goes wrong.. that people see it as we must be high to have fun.. this is not true.. or we would have to be high 24/7.. i dont get high to have fun.. i can do that all the time on my own.. and i do.. i get high because i enjoy the high.. just like u would eat chocolate cake because u like chocolate cake. or you would go swimming because u like going swimming. i like to trip so i take acid. but i have fun all the time w/o it.. its like a recreation i do it cause i enjoy it. not because i dont enjoy anything else. peace!!

WORD!! That's so true layla

and um..'layla..I've been mixing drugs ever since I started..and (so far) nothing ever really happened to me, although friends of mine have been taking the drugs the wrong way..flipping out and stuff...I have even a couple of friends that OD-ed on the drugs, had their stomachs pumped..but I can't approve of that of course..
I always watch out with the amount and stuff, I always drink enough..but you never know what you take (I don't test them)...and there's always the risk of dying...but I just do not to think about it...peace 2

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Originally posted by Dj Martijn yeah i guess so. it's just i don't c y ppl must be on a high 2 enjoy themselves. is not bein with ur m8s havin a laugh goin round clubs fun enuf without puttin ur body at risk and bein on a huge low afterwards

But its not that simple, well with E you can definately say what you said, but again don't forget the day after boozing all night is also pretty damn harsh. The E low is much better than a hangover for me, not that I would make E something to do instead of drinking, I like my whiskey ... But lets take many legal perscription drugs for depression, sleep disorders, eating disorders, high blood pressure, etc... They all have risks, yet they are totally accepted since the government approved them.

I've said before to people who've never done any drugs, please don't try to tell us we shouldn't do it based on life giving us a good enough high, or something to that effect.

The perfect example is someone who's never skydived telling skydivers that they shouldn't skydive because life should be thrilling enough

Don't forget I used to be a very anti-drug person myself when I was younger, now I own a website dedicated to stopping the dangerous spread of mis-information on the internet. Thats why you see me so often posting in drug related threads

One interesting note, mdma was legal in the late 60's, the reason it became illegal was because people started to use mdma at parties for recreational use. Phyciatrists who were so excited at the potential uses for mdma were furious at the government's decision to ban something that could help their patients.

Lets look at it this way, if mdma wasn't banned, there would likely be some perscription drugs out today that were used in a variety of medical uses, ie depression, loss therapy, etc.... But since the government noticed people having fun on the drug, they banned it and now its becoming a problem today. This is often the approach by governments. Scientists suggest we study and learn before making a rash decision, yet the government often makes quick decisions on less than all the facts for fear of pissing off the voters. Don't forget most politicians are only around for 4-5 yr terms, so making themselves look good is of utmost importance.

The sad thing is that there are underground mdma therapy groups, people who've faced serious personal traumas or tragedys are using mdma in with a psychiatrist to help them deal with the devastation.

So again I go off on a tangent, sorry for that, Its late and I'm bored

But there is so much more to everything if you do some research, the government makes many bad decisions and its takes so much work to try to re-verse these dumb decisions so many years later.

I JUST WANT TO DANCE.....

Re: Re: 3 pma pills found recently in europe

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Originally posted by Optimus Trance Damn, i have seen this one at a club, I'm sure of it....luckely i didnt take one of these...I take care of my own supply

the actual superman pill is fuckin wicked, but ive known about 2 or 3 months that theres been dodgy ones floatin about so i aint gone near em for a while... thx for the warning bout them big orange ******s tho not seen um yet but im sure i will...

peace

there are god knows how many different types of pills around nowadays and the ones shown in the pictures could be copycats of safe pills. a bit off subject, but i found this site about different types of e, how accurate it is i don't know but it was an interesting read, check it out:
www.ecstasy.org/testing/db/ar_31_8_2000.html


RR

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Originally posted by theeyesofdarkness most dxm pills that are sold are not mixed w/ mdma.. usually tons of other drugs and maybe a bit of mdma. but mostly just dxm alone.. and i have not seen any testing of pma tabs that have had anything other than pma in them. but im sure there are mixes. as for dxm: DXM is dextromethorphan. It is a legal cough suppressant found in many over-the-counter cough syrups. In high doses it acts as a "dissociative anaesthetic" like ketamine or PCP. A high dose will cause you to feel very spacey and "out of it," and you may lose motor control (your legs may feel wobbly, for example, or at very high doses you won't be able to move much at all). It can also produce audio and visual hallucinations, and can sometimes cause nausea and itchy skin. Some people use DXM recreationally. When they do, they nearly always do it at home, in bed or on their couch. DXM is definitely not a dance drug, it does not sound awesome to me. peace!! -layla

Yeah read all the effects of it.....read some letters by people who have done it...sounded fun. As for nausea, mdma causes that too. In fact a lot of drugs do....nothing new. I probably will never try it, i'll stick to e for now.

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