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Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis Oh!, damn now i'm in a bad situation. Well alot of people have been telling me to get these Ortofons your recommending too with no complaints, also the same level of great feedback for the whitelabels...now i don't know which to get How long have you had your Ortofons for, any complaints?? Where does it get sold?

Personally I've had mine 4 9 months people on the net have had theirs for more then a year before. They are awsome. Kill the Stantons, kills it all (haven't used teh whitelabels tho).

I suggest take a record you know, down and listen to both on it. That was why I ended up getting the model I did; it sounded the best.

--djway

i switched from ortofon's to whitelabels.. in my opinion it was a great move! you wont be disappointed with either though

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Originally posted by djway Kill the Stantons, kills it all

I think my Stantons committed suicide

But thanks anyways man, i'll go in and just check the Ortofons and Whitelabels in a comparison test.

hopefully i can make a decent decisions that won't stress me out.

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Originally posted by Lanithium i switched from ortofon's to whitelabels.. in my opinion it was a great move! you wont be disappointed with either though

Was there any massive difference noticed when you changed??

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Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis Was there any massive difference noticed when you changed??

If it was the DJ E or something, you'll notice a huge difference between them and either of what you're looking @

Your ears will be the real/final test....both are good, u'll b happy with either

--djway

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Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis Was there any massive difference noticed when you changed??

they sounded a bit nicer.. not much difference though

i like them alot more for the design, they dont skip.. which is a major problem i had with ortofons.. and also if u happen to slip and knock the needle off the vinyl (which i have done plenty of times)the stylus itself wont actually catch the side of the platter whereas the ortofons will and in most cases will snap.

believe me when i say the whitelabels sure do take the punishment.. ive dropped them knocked them u name it ive done it and they just dont break!
much stronger than the ortofons which i had to replace 3 times in the same amount of time ive had the whitelabels which i havent had to replace yet!

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Originally posted by Lanithium they sounded a bit nicer.. not much difference though i like them alot more for the design, they dont skip.. which is a major problem i had with ortofons.. and also if u happen to slip and knock the needle off the vinyl (which i have done plenty of times)the stylus itself wont actually catch the side of the platter whereas the ortofons will and in most cases will snap. believe me when i say the whitelabels sure to take the punishment.. ive dropped them knocked them u name it ive done it and they just dont break! much stronger than the ortofons which i had to replace 3 times in the same amount of time ive had the whitelabels which i havent had to replace yet!

Know what you mean about knocking it on2 the platter Done it a few times, still good tho

skipping tho, I have no issues, and have my dex looser then a you know what in kings cross.


--djway

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Originally posted by Lanithium they sounded a bit nicer.. not much difference though i like them alot more for the design, they dont skip.. which is a major problem i had with ortofons.. and also if u happen to slip and knock the needle off the vinyl (which i have done plenty of times)the stylus itself wont actually catch the side of the platter whereas the ortofons will and in most cases will snap. believe me when i say the whitelabels sure do take the punishment.. ive dropped them knocked them u name it ive done it and they just dont break! much stronger than the ortofons which i had to replace 3 times in the same amount of time ive had the whitelabels which i havent had to replace yet!

Cheers mate, Shure Whitelabels are my final descion now, thanx

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Originally posted by djway I have no issues, and have my dex looser then a you know what in kings cross.

lol

Ok i rang up CSR and One Stop Dj and they told me the following prices

CSR - SHURE WHITELABELS = $400 pair
One Stop - SHURE WHITELABELS = $480

CSR - PIONEER HDJ1000 = Not in stock
One Stop - PIONEER HDJ1000 = $269

are they decent prices or can cheaper be found?

One Stop are doing a sale on this week too.

btw i forgot to ask, are the HDJ1000 good in blocking external sounds?

EDIT: Just by looking at Robs, Andrews and escees prices, i think something is wrong lol...did they increase their prices, damn.

HD-25s rock! I have used many a pair of headphones and nothing even comes close to these. But of course, it is a matter of personal opinion of how tight you want them to sit and how much external noise you want to kill. Many people actually do not like them said people are crazy!


If you can, test drive a few different pairs of headphones before you splurge.

if you're going to invest in higher end carts,
hope that you have a decent monitors/speakers to go with it.
really defeats the purpose if you're to use it in the bedroom with
cheap speakers.

headphones?

everybody's going to recommend to you what they've used.
do your research. try them all.
what suits one person wont necessarily suit another.
sound, comfort, isolation are your best interests.

here's a few from the top of my head

senn hd280
senn hd25, also hd25 sp?
sony mdr7506 or V6s
technics rpdj? 1210, also 1200s
pioneer hdj1000
sony v700

each has their pro(s)/con(s)

best advice i can give you is not to go with the v700s.
they have a rep of breaking within a year, which isnt covered under sony's warranty. many have tried.

also, seems like ordering online overseas is the way to go.
sennheisers n sony's are ridiculously inflated down here.

have fun

edit: i'm still an ortofon OM Pro S man. cheap fuckr i am.

i got my whitelabels relatively cheap because im a very regular customer in that store.

Tell them that you will be buying the two together (phones and two carts), they will take maybe 20-30 dollars off the price, and dont accept their first offer. Dj Equipment is not in high demand so you can usually get them to move on the price. If they dont walk out and buy them somewhere else.

One Stop - SHURE WHITELABELS = $480 <-- thats rediculous, tell them you want at least 100 dollars off the price. At $380 they would still be making a big enough profit that they would still sell them to you. I think.

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Originally posted by JayKuE if you're going to invest in higher end carts, hope that you have a decent monitors/speakers to go with it. really defeats the purpose if you're to use it in the bedroom with cheap speakers.

Awesome advice!

--djway

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Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis Ok i rang up CSR and One Stop Dj and they told me the following prices CSR - SHURE WHITELABELS = $400 pair One Stop - SHURE WHITELABELS = $480 CSR - PIONEER HDJ1000 = Not in stock One Stop - PIONEER HDJ1000 = $269 are they decent prices or can cheaper be found? One Stop are doing a sale on this week too. btw i forgot to ask, are the HDJ1000 good in blocking external sounds? EDIT: Just by looking at Robs, Andrews and escees prices, i think something is wrong lol...did they increase their prices, damn.

Hehehe, it depends on who's working @ the stores, cause the staff are on a rotating roster, some staff are willing to bargin, some are not.

Not only did I get the Shure's for $340, but a friend got he's for the same price 1 month after i got mine - from CSR.
The guy also offered me $220 for the HDJ1000s.
You'll have to go into the shop and ask - theres not much hope in terms of bargining when you ring up over the phone.

Yeah, One Stop have been selling them for $480 ever since they were released - they are tough cookies, best price you'd get from them is $420 IMO. I got my HDJ1000's there for $250, and the guy even gave me $1 of my Mike Shiver - Feelings vinyl!

But yeah mate, best to go into the shop and talk face to face!


Also agree with JayKuE's post - need good speakers/monitors to bring out the full potential of the Shures.

try dj central on parra road at stanmore. Ive found em to be pretty good in my travels. (0295909935)

Whatever you do tho, dont go to sanity dance arena lookin for headphones I got ripped off hard on my pioneer HDJ-1000s (so much so im embarassed to say the price :P )

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Originally posted by JayKuE if you're going to invest in higher end carts, hope that you have a decent monitors/speakers to go with it. really defeats the purpose if you're to use it in the bedroom with cheap speakers.

true, i agree. :P

there is no point in getting high quality carts and having low quality speaker/monitor. (you wouldn't hear any differences at all in that case)


Dj_Psygnosis
try this
www.storedj.com.au

2 x shure whitelabel $358
(unfortunetly the price WENT UP!)

-Rob

G'day Rob :P

Just out of curiosity, what speakers/monitors are you running?

Same goes out to all Whitelabels users... ?

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Originally posted by [ groovypants ] G'day Rob :P Just out of curiosity, what speakers/monitors are you running?

monitors: 2 x Yamaha s112 (Club series) - 600W rms.
<-----not the best tho, but good enough for monitoring, can be used as main speakers if its a small party.

amp: QSC RMX 850

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Originally posted by [ groovypants ] Same goes out to all Whitelabels users... ?

yes,
if you have good input then you would need good output. So you can hear it!

your input source might sound crystal clear good quality sound but if your output (speakers) are not quality . Then it wwould still sound just about the same as normal standard carts, well maybe sounds abit better again depending on your speakers/setup.

also its like this
if you try and compare a pioneer mixer with an alien & health
it would sound the same on some low quality audio setup. but on a high quality audio setup you can tell the diff.


*as for recording try record a sample on both standard carts and whitelabels then playing them back on high quality headphones or simular. i bet you can tell*

if you got a Good input source then you need a good output source or else ya wasting alot of $ for no reason.
unless your planning to take it away to a venue with a nice setup then it would do some justice for you

hope that helps
cheers
Rob

Psygnosis concorde's will be fine but check out this site:

www.clubdjzone.com

It specialises in these type of questions

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Originally posted by RobEnergy monitors: 2 x Yamaha s112 (Club series) - 600W rms. <-----not the best tho, but good enough for monitoring, can be used as main speakers if its a small party. amp: QSC RMX 850 yes, if you have good input then you would need good output. So you can hear it! your input source might sound crystal clear good quality sound but if your output (speakers) are not quality . Then it wwould still sound just about the same as normal standard carts, well maybe sounds abit better again depending on your speakers/setup. also its like this if you try and compare a pioneer mixer with an alien & health it would sound the same on some low quality audio setup. but on a high quality audio setup you can tell the diff. *as for recording try record a sample on both standard carts and whitelabels then playing them back on high quality headphones or simular. i bet you can tell* :P if you got a Good input source then you need a good output source or else ya wasting alot of $ for no reason. hope that helps cheers Rob

Ahhh cheers! wow, 600watts RMS ? Freaking loud compared to my set up!

Ahhh what I meant with the later statement was "same goes out to all users - what speakers are you dudes using"

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Originally posted by [ groovypants ] what speakers are you dudes using"

I have a 3500 watt PMPO, 500 Watt RMS system...pretty decent i guess.

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Originally posted by [ groovypants ] Ahhh cheers! wow, 600watts RMS ? Freaking loud compared to my set up! Ahhh what I meant with the later statement was "same goes out to all users - what speakers are you dudes using"

sorry i misread the question?

i know i dont really need that loud,
and also i dont turn it up full at home anyways, (when i dont need it loud i turn it down :] )
rather save my ears than blast them away

what setup are you on?

shit, you guys have freaking loud systems !!!

Mine is not as loud, but is JUST enough for my room - although I would like it MUCH louder

Running B&W 602 S2 120watt RMS speakers on a Marantz SR4320 80Watt RMS Stereo Receiver.

And if you want to buy some top quality monitors check out these:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=143072


I also have

2 FBT MaxX4a
and 2 FBT MaxX9sa subs

a total of 2600 Watts RMS not PMPO

PMPO means squat in club terms. You need continuous power not peak

I do really like your QSC amp though Rob

You may not need high quality stylus at home but once you play out you need to bring your own carts just incase the setup at the venue is dodgy. So if you bring your shitty old stanton carts along it wont sound very good.

Mine are not the best stylus, but they are good enough. I have run into issues where the venue has had dodgy carts so im glad i had mine.

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