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i'd eat organic if i had the money. People from other countries that i've met tell me that the fruits and vegetables that they had at home (mostly asian countries) taste better than the fruits and veggies here. I'm assuming it is because they use less pesticides and aren't really into GMO's as the US.

Oh yeah whoever recommended Fast FOod Nation, good job! this book rocks, although it is a bit disturbing though.

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Originally posted by butterfly can you post that data please?

sounds like you have an agruement to win with your bf.

Organic is a very loose term, which can be abused by unscrupulous companies. Be an educated consumer, read the packaging or visit their website to learn how they define organic. Its also important to note that organic can encompass how the food is grown, using environmentally friendly methods. One of the best ways to protect our planet health and the people who live on it is to buy from companies who respect the environment and their employees. How do you feel about clothing produced by children in 3rd world country, sweat shops? or wood taken from the rain forest?

Organic food sucks. I like inorganic food better. Carbon is evil.

Does McDonald's count as organic??

organic milk tastes a hell of a lot better than the "regular" stuff.

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Originally posted by butterfly do you eat organic?

depends, if the price is equivalent, then yes, i'd probably choose organic over the other stuff.

Independently of that, I usually compare what is inside of my groceries. If I were to buy cooking oil, I'd take the one with the lowest amount of saturated fat and the highest amount of poly-unsaturated ones.

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Originally posted by igottaknow ... Organic is a very loose term, which can be abused by unscrupulous companies. Be an educated consumer, read the packaging or visit their website to learn how they define organic. Its also important to note that organic can encompass how the food is grown, using environmentally friendly methods. One of the best ways to protect our planet health and the people who live on it is to buy from companies who respect the environment and their employees. How do you feel about clothing produced by children in 3rd world country, sweat shops? or wood taken from the rain forest?

yep...

its funny i was talking about this with a girl from Denver the other day. we were discussing how the drive from the airport means you have to go thru the section of town where the Conoco refineries are located. believe me it smells like shit, mixed with hydrocarbons. but she said that she had visited an organic vineyard there that didnt use pesticides - which is 'organic' but when its located next to the refineries i would venture to say the afterproduct is much worse than with any pesticides! |<-thats for blazed it (and i thot no one would notice)

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Originally posted by butterfly can you post that data please?

Hmm... I'm not sure what you're really looking for. Due to a relatively severe case of Positive Outcome Bias there isn't a great deal of hard data refuting the claims made by "organic" advocacy groups.

However, the research in favor of organic foods, while prevalent, fails to meet the standard of what I would consider "science." Most experiments involve countless variables, rather than the traditional one. They typically draw broad conclusions from narrow data, and rarely seem to acknowledge the difference between correlation and causation.

While there is far too much data for me to claim to have evaluated even a significant fraction of it, the fact that I have yet to see a strong argument in favor of organic foods leads me naturally to the default position of skepticism.

Best Wishes,

Arbiter

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Originally posted by butterfly what, specifically? i am not convinced. my 90 year old grandma never ate organic.

my nonna is 94. she has lived in east brunswick, new jersey since moving there from italy when she was 9. she has had her own garden in the backyard (tiny yard, tiny garden) for as long as i can remember, and has always grown her own veggies, def. pesticide free but i dont know what else is on em....it is new jersey, yaknow.

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Originally posted by monoxide it's kinnda clean... the biggest city is the capital [where i live] Vilnius has 750 000 residents (less than a million)... so it's not quite possible to create a smog [or smth like that] with the cars and factories we have... move to LTU butterfly, i'll show you around

There's some cute girls from there - my ex was Lithuanian (I am a very small part too - my great grandmother was from there) - she was pretty hot but then she became a lesbian

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Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch There's some cute girls from there - my ex was Lithuanian (I am a very small part too - my great grandmother was from there) - she was pretty hot but then she became a lesbian

really? ROFL [i almost died laughing from "she became lesbian"]

now seriously, there are ALOT cute girls, but the point is that we don't pay enough attention to them [if i weren't lithuanian, i'd kick all of their butts 4 not treating girls as they should be ].
for eg, when i'm on holiday somewhere in europe, i do not understand where are these hot girls that should be everyday on the street, till i realise that there are not so many of them there; vice versa in LTU, you mostly pass a beautiful girl without noticing her ...

what was her name? your exs???

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Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch There's some cute girls from there - my ex was Lithuanian (I am a very small part too - my great grandmother was from there) - she was pretty hot but then she became a lesbian

your ex or your grandmother?

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