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RANT ALERT!
Well, in his and every v700dj owners defense, the equipment used on most demoeing isn't exactly top notch anyway, so really bad headphone mixing won't hurt it TOO much cause the sound'll be pretty mediocre to poor anyway.
Source: Technics sl1200 - As far as sound goes, these are actually some mediocre tables, but are used cause they're powerful as hell and built like a bomb shelter.
You then have some cheap plastic interconnects running into the mixer, which probably won't have the most audiophile of jacks or innards either... And from there you have yet another pair of horrible interconnects running to a tape deck... which, no matter how high end, is still a tape deck. 
With the sr 60s, you've already got a bass shy and somewhat bright phone, so I wouldn't use that as a reference either.
And I'll retract some of the stuff I said about the eq'ing, since most novice mixers don't even have eqs. But for the ones that do, when you've got a thumping trance record, and most every trance record is thumping if the dj thinks its bass heavy, he'll turn down the low end, not realising that its actually the phones that are bass heavy, so the bass ends up very shy on the end recording. And even for a novice dj its still utterly rediculous to pay that much for a shitty headphone when even a 20$ koss sounds better, though still shitty, heh heh.
I guess my main problem is watching all these djs like paul okenfold, funk master flex, kid kapri, and all these other top name djs who are WHORED by Sony and marketing into chooseing these phones, who actually own GOOD mixers and good equipment, cause then the only weak link they have in their setup is in their phones, and their mixes could be eq'd so much better then they are if they just used some good cans.
Ugh, excuse the ranting, but I'm bored and fucking tired.
Excuses, Excuses, Excuses
Tall Paul, Tiesto, Paul Van Dyk, and Mauro Picotto all use the headphones your slammin and they are some of the best Dj's is the world.
Bottom line if you blame your crap mixing on your headphones, odds are your a CRAP Dj, stop blaming equipment for your own personal failure,
LOL, trintiy... 
Youre right - there are headphones for DJ monitoring/beat matching, headphones for studio monitoring, headphones for pure music listening... and headphones that are pure crap. The headphones that most of you use kinda belong to the first category (DJ monitoring); the ones Gluegun suggested belong to either the second (studio monitoring) or third (serious music listening) category. Every one of us have different requirements. (Heheheh... I would probably use those V700DJ's for mixing and my 7506's for final mastering...) As I am telling you, Different strokes for different folks.
Peace.
I am looking for a studio headphone for production oriented tasks and I was wondering what everyone thought of the Sennheiser HD-600's. I know that they are expensive but I have read rave reviews about them in a number of popular stereo periodicals and I was just curious if anyone has some actual experience with this particular model that can give me some +/- input. I have used a number of Sennheiser models in the past and (despite the annoying loosening tendency of the headphone plugs) been very impressed with their quality.
Thanks in advance all,
I enjoyed reading this discussion, and then i went to the store to get info on the sony mdr-v6 but they don't have that, and even sony as importer doesn't have that available. what they do have is the sony mdr-v600, so it's maybe that one?? i don't know, help please
oh my!
invasion of the omniscient headphone gods
The Sony MDR-V600 is NOT the same as the MDR-V6!
JdDark, the title speaks for itself.
Trintiy: That so-called DJ friend of mine - the one who gave me all of his crappy mixes to listen to - turned out to be a newbie (or a quack DJ)! (That is, he deliberately under-EQ'd the bass and over-EQ'd the highs because he thought the V700DJ's had way too much bass.) He actually EQ'd the mixes on those V700DJ's so that it sounded proper had he listened to Mozart on those same cans! Heheheh... You can't treat trance/techno music the same way as classical music! 
I will say this, Screw that quack! He's the REAL MDR-VCRAPDJ!!! 
Re: The Sony MDR-V600 is NOT the same as the MDR-V6!
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OakeyRidesAnR1: The HD-600's aren't that great for high end studio monitoring (although they ARE great audiophile phones, ie, they can be ONE of the phones you use to make a mix, but don't rely on them). I would suggest the Beyerdynamic DT931's if you need good open phones, or the DT831's if you need good closed ones.
Jdark: try (this is the THIRD TIME I'VE GIVEN THIS LINK) http://www.djmart.com/noname5.html And, for the love of god, the V600's are NOT the V6's! *shudders* the V600's are like the rest of the V###DJ series--crap.
Shadyslim: The reason I'm saying that the V6's are great, over, say, a more balanced set of headphones like the Sennheiser HD25's is because of their slightly exaggerated bass, which helps make them not only studio monitoring headphones, but good for beat matching, too... And besides, if you want to LISTEN to trance, there is, of course, only one ULTIMATE set of headphones to use, and those are the Grado SR-325's.
Hmmmm....I think I probably know why those popular DJ's are so good, even with crappy equipment.. I'll bet you money they don't equalize the sound based on what they hear through there headphones...heheh...
the bass on the V6 is not exagerated!
hey gluegun, i luv it when someone knows wot they r talking about 
how do u know so much about headphones and the likes?
appreciate the knowledge that u've given here, thanz~! (now i'm very eager to get a pair of GOOD headphones for general listening)
Chewy: I guess it's a hobby. I'm a regular at http://headwize.com/ubb/forums.php and http://www.head-fi.org/forums/index.php (as are many of the other people in this post). Anyways, Neruda, about the V6's bass, I ICQ'ed you on the topic a while back, and I think we still need some closure... Anyways, Chewy, you are going to be using these for general listening ONLY? Under what circumstances, with what equipment, to what form of music, with what budget?
Right now im using a pair of MDR-V600 and i find it very hard to hear the beats. But they arent my cans, so not much I can/will do.
Also, it is a good thing I dont try to EQ what I hear thru the headphones, cuz the EQ does nothing to the levels in the headphones on the Vestax PMC 170A..Id be really messed!!!
J_spot: That's odd. One of the only things the V600's HAVE is really loud, boomy midbass, and I believe that the beats are midbass, correct? 80-120 hz? you are talking about the whump whump whump in the background, right? The V600's, to my knowledge, can't do anything BUT those whump whump whumps...
I think something is messed up in your setup...or are the beats lower than that (If they are, than that's probably why; the V600's don't go very low)
NZWaverider,
http://www.musiclab.com.au/ has the 7506's for 250, but you can probably negotiate it down a little, if you try, and say you've found it for cheaper elsewhere. *Pause* how much is that USD?
Gluegun: That's strange. The MDR-V600's that I used to own had almost NO bass response to speak of...
j_spot: The reason why you can't hear the beats on your MDR-V600's is that those V600's can't reproduce bass well. In fact, in a frequency-response graph of those V600's there is a big hump just below the middle of the midrange! This overboosted lower-to-middle mids tends to overpower whatever little bass those V600s deliver - and at the same itme, it gives those cans that "honky" characteristic in their sound! Why did you waste close to $150 CDN on something that can't reproduce bass - not even the mid-bass?
Of course they don't have any bass. Like I said, they have bloated midbass (I believe that we are disagreeing about the midbass. They can't reproduce it accurately, of course, but there is a LOT of it...), which is why I asked if the beat was lower than midbass, and, if it was, it would be the reason that he can't hear it...
if anybody wants a sony mdr v700 for cheap then check out http://www.123dj.com/a_headphones.html
they got some other cheap dj equipments too...and i mean cheap!
I dont know what u r arguing with..I was saying I cant hear it as in im agreeing with you.
And I didnt buy them. My buddy did for his setup, I dont have my own yet. Im still $200 short of Getting Technics, so im gonna wait.
Uhem
You Will Be The Dumbest DJ if you pick something Over Sony MDRV-700 !!!
Have u seen mayday>???
basicly every good DJ had them on !!!
i baught em... i luv em
Max2LC,
Why does EVERY DJ think the V700's are great? they SUCK! JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE V###DJ line, which sounds the same!! Read this ENTIRE thread to find out why! The things suck! Get a set of mdr-v6's...or if you want something that sounds like the V700's (only better), get the Koss UR-20's for $25...sheesh...why pay $160 for a headphone when you can get one that sounds the same for $25, and one that sounds better for $80? I just don't understand...
And about all the good dj's using bad tools? They've all been bought out by Sony, silly, and have learned to compensate for using bad tools (IE, the V700DJ) by not using them as a basis for how the mix sounds (just using them for beat matching, NOT equalization or anything else important).
booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I'LL FORWARD THAT TO TIESTO !!!! AND PAUL VAN DYK !!!!
WILL SEE THEIR REPLY
LOL !!!!!!!!!
1. MDRV-700 ARE THE BEST
2. THEY COST $100 LOOK AT THE MAGAZINES !!!!
3. IF THEY SUCK THAN WHY PRO DJ'S USE THEM >?????????
THIN ABOUT THESE 3 QUESTIONS WHEN U'LL FINISH READ AGAIN !!!
ENJOY M8 
MAX2LC
Ive decided that u r full of shit buddy.
U know nothing!
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| Originally posted by Max2LC I'LL FORWARD THAT TO TIESTO !!!! AND PAUL VAN DYK !!!! WILL SEE THEIR REPLY LOL !!!!!!!!! |
OMFG !!!
Yo It's a forum...damn it's like we are arguing about a girl....shit if MDRV-500's are better I don't give a fuck...buy them...damn yo...some tranceaddicts are just way wiered...i just gave my oppinion, damn dudes..............
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