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Originally posted by placebo I have a Qualcomm Kyocera phone...its old as fuck, but I've never had one fucking problem with it. Cant complain. Its not cool. Its not small. But it has the features I want--TO MAKE FUCKING PHONE CALLS WITHOUT ALL THAT OTHER BULLSHIT.

Boom! Right there! exactly! i know what ur saying coz i got a kyocera too!

hehehe

it doesnt have games, or color, or web browsing...but i can make phone calls when i need to , and nights and weekends are free too!



its the little things in life that please me

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Originally posted by DaveSaenz Motorola has its headquarters in Austin (along with Dell) and they layed off my cousin....So yeah fuck motorola. :P Actually they are almost right next to my house (figuratively speaking).

Ahem....

Motorola HQ is in Schaumburg, IL.

Sorry...I could not resist.

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Originally posted by Mebot quote: Originally posted by placebo I have a Qualcomm Kyocera phone...its old as fuck, but I've never had one fucking problem with it. Cant complain. Its not cool. Its not small. But it has the features I want--TO MAKE FUCKING PHONE CALLS WITHOUT ALL THAT OTHER BULLSHIT. Boom! Right there! exactly! i know what ur saying coz i got a kyocera too! hehehe it doesnt have games, or color, or web browsing...but i can make phone calls when i need to , and nights and weekends are free too! its the little things in life that please me

I don't have a Kyocera...but I do have a Sprint Touchpoint which is made by Qualcomm.

It is 3 years old, has all the features I need. Which, like stated in the quotes above, means it makes calls. The top row of LED's went really dim the other day and I was grumbling to myself that I would need to "upgrade" soon...but somehow it came back to life today and so I don;t have to get a new one (and no need for a contract either ). It is a good phone.....I just wish I would have bought a spare battery when I got it....Sprint doesn't even sell them online anymore.

MrS

one thing I don't understand and pardon my ignorance but why is the usa cell phone system so fucked up ?

clearly people who have visited and lived in lets say europe will understand that the networks are much better over there.

Now as an unbiased / technically proven / fact driven comparision of qualities, pros and cons of the range of cell phone carriers out there I have yet to find one! Does anyone know of such a website? I'm considering getting a cell phone ... Right now I use an All Tell which isn't even mine and it's decent coverage + no roaming fees but still I dunno ... I need to get my own phone and cant find real answers

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Originally posted by jdat one thing I don't understand and pardon my ignorance but why is the usa cell phone system so fucked up ? clearly people who have visited and lived in lets say europe will understand that the networks are much better over there. Now as an unbiased / technically proven / fact driven comparision of qualities, pros and cons of the range of cell phone carriers out there I have yet to find one! Does anyone know of such a website? I'm considering getting a cell phone ... Right now I use an All Tell which isn't even mine and it's decent coverage + no roaming fees but still I dunno ... I need to get my own phone and cant find real answers

I will address points in 3 parts

1. It is fucked up because of competition and of the Constitutional limitations on Interstate Commerce which had to be resolved. (generally speaking)

2. The reason why networks are "better" in Europe has mainly to do with population density. The Continental US is roughly the size of all of Europe but there are many places that are virtually uninhabited. The states just east of the rocky mountains and the next row east from there (minus texas...nine total) have a combined area equivalent to that of the 4 largest countries in Europe (Ukraine, France, Spain, Sweden) yet have less than twice the population of Sweden and barely 1/10th the population of the four combined. (I am bored thus the figure finding lol)

3. I would go to the library and find a Consumer Reports issue dealing with cell phones. They tend to be unbiased and good information. They don;t let you access their articles online unless you pay so I always go to the library where it is free

Hope that cleared some stuff up....if not, sorry to watse your time lol.

MrS

ATTN: Vtec Junkie

Hey

how's it going man. I just started working for AT&T wireless this week here in AZ. I dont work for a corporate store, but for a large exclusive dealer called Global Mobile (formerly GSM Wireless). I am no at&T fan by any means. I and most of my coworkers use Verizon
Hit me up on AIM or something...i could use some advice to sell some of these phones. Seems like no one wants AT&T anymore.

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Originally posted by jdat one thing I don't understand and pardon my ignorance but why is the usa cell phone system so fucked up ?

I guess it depends on what you're trying to do with it. The coverage, in many cases, is pretty crappy outside of the cities. The reason for that already been adequately addressed. But I've been far more pleased with the service in the US once I'm on the network.

With T-mobile, I have coverage everywhere I need it, plus massive data bandwidth for mobile internet browsing. Hell, it's faster than my cable modem ever was when all the kiddiez in the neighborhood went online at 9pm to share mp3s. (Damn those bastards, I had to switch to DSL).

Considering what you get in terms of cost in the US, it's still a decent deal. I had a service plan in Europe for six or seven months - and people bitch about the roaming charges in the US! You cross a border in Europe, and it's serious "bend over" time. Plus, cheap data access there is still not truly available.

With T-mobile in the US, I get the best of both worlds. Data access, good sound quality, and a GSM phone that I can pop the SIM chip out of and switch over to another if I ever travel. Plus, I can send SMSs across the GSM network, which is great.

Back to the original topic: phones. The jury is still out on my Nokia 3650. I'm not sure if I like it. I think it just takes getting used to. But I also have an Ericsson tri-band T39m that I use as a beater/travel phone. The thing has been through hell and back, and has given me no problems at all.

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Originally posted by nchs09 lol so much anger.... i got a POS siemens phone, which is not cool or anything,b ut works fine

i'm curious to know which siemens phone u have, because my experience with them has been great. Motorola sucks when it comes to phones...and Nokia lost it; I don't know what they're thinking with some of the designs. And I really dislike their software.

Siemens is by far one of the best manufacturers. The S55, ST55, SL55 and M55 are all great phones with awesome features, and the SX1, U10 and U15 definately look like they'll keep the Siemens standard as G3 comes into play in Europe.

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Originally posted by CynepMeH Buyer be ware: Stay away from Motorola 720i - the biggest piece of crap that I ever owned. Here's why: 1. The phone freezes up on me everyonce in a while 2. Animation is turned off, but icons are still animated and take forever to load 3. The menu response is the worst I've seen. Takes about 3-5 seconds before something happens 4. Bootup of the phone takes longer than my Windows XP running on a Pentium 1 - 75MHz with 16MB of RAM and stoned-hamster-powered power supply 5. The phone just shuts down for no apparent reason, right in the middle of important business cal. (No I didn't drop it or abused it in any way) 6. The ring volume is so low, even a SETI dish would not pick it up 7. The battery takes 8 hours to fully charge! 8. The power plug is useless if not inserted and jiggled like an old whore's nipples (ok, I wouldn't know that but I figure that's what it would be like) 9. The messaging on that phone is terrible! 10. Battery life is shorter than it takes to say "oops, my battery is dying!" The worst celluar provider: AT&T Wireless. terrible coverage on GSM or 1900 band, the worst customer service, bunch of crooks who rip you off and don't tell you about it. Thanks for letting me vent.

I have that phone and I've never had any of those problems. I like the phone. It works great for me and the battery lasts for days.

CynepMeH, i have AT&T paired with a siemens m56 and it works great. what area are u in, could be the lack of signal that causes glitches, also you should look into what OS version is running that cell. if anything take the damn thing back.

isnt the system in the US still analog?i read once the reason why America still has Analog phone networks and still hasnt converted to the metric system etc.. and Farenhiet rather then celcius etc.. is due to it being such a massive job to convert a country so big, where as somewhere like here in Australia its tiny so was easy?

maybe im so wrong or i ddreamt that or something i dunno *sips drink*

Can anyone tell me if AT&T Wireless is good in NYC? I have Verizon but am looking to switch. Thanks!

-Keith

for all your cellphone questions, visit this Howard Forums...you'll get much better answers there

Howard Forums

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Originally posted by waXology isnt the system in the US still analog?i read once the reason why America still has Analog phone networks and still hasnt converted to the metric system etc.. and Farenhiet rather then celcius etc.. is due to it being such a massive job to convert a country so big, where as somewhere like here in Australia its tiny so was easy? maybe im so wrong or i ddreamt that or something i dunno *sips drink*

Haha...analog died for regular usage about 5-6 years ago. The network is still active, and used for certain specialized purposes, but everyone's definitely on digital for everyday usage.

The confusion is over the data standards. T-Mobile, for example, is a national GSM provider, but all digital providers in the US are not GSM like much of the world. By far, the largest are CDMA providers. There are good and bad things about these networks. CDMA is actually more technologically advanced than GSM (it's a much newer standard, 1990's rather than 1980's) but doesn't have the benefit of the SIM card system. When you buy a service plan, you also get tied to a phone issued by the provider.

Also, because we have networks with multiple formats, things like SMS don't travel easily between providers. Sending text messages between providers is still a pretty big pain in the ass. The way that US providers have gotten around that is by putting internet access on most new phones, so AOL or MSN instant messaging has become the new SMS.

Now, about the metric system...hahaha...we're never gonna change. Much of the US is laid out in a grid system that the federal government developed for a program to help landowners move west in the early 1800's. The whole grid is based on acres, feet, miles, etc. In terms of distance calculation, that actually makes it a waste of time and money to switch 'cause everything is laid out on the english system. As for pounds and ounces...yeah, that's probably won't change either, but we're not the only ones left who use those.

Stay away from Siemens phones.
I had a Siemens S40 and it was junk would never have service, would take long time to read from SimCard, etc. I then upgraded to a Siemens S56 after given an upgrade special and it isn't much better, have to charge the battery every night before phone dies (and thats not even from excessive usage).

In Europe however, Siemens work flawlessly... probably because they are new to North America, and haven't perfected all the little bugs in the phones working on the different GSM systems used here.

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Originally posted by CynepMeH Buyer be ware: Stay away from Motorola 720i - the biggest piece of crap that I ever owned. Here's why: 1. The phone freezes up on me everyonce in a while 2. Animation is turned off, but icons are still animated and take forever to load 3. The menu response is the worst I've seen. Takes about 3-5 seconds before something happens 4. Bootup of the phone takes longer than my Windows XP running on a Pentium 1 - 75MHz with 16MB of RAM and stoned-hamster-powered power supply 5. The phone just shuts down for no apparent reason, right in the middle of important business cal. (No I didn't drop it or abused it in any way) 6. The ring volume is so low, even a SETI dish would not pick it up 7. The battery takes 8 hours to fully charge! 8. The power plug is useless if not inserted and jiggled like an old whore's nipples (ok, I wouldn't know that but I figure that's what it would be like) 9. The messaging on that phone is terrible! 10. Battery life is shorter than it takes to say "oops, my battery is dying!" The worst celluar provider: AT&T Wireless. terrible coverage on GSM or 1900 band, the worst customer service, bunch of crooks who rip you off and don't tell you about it. Thanks for letting me vent.

on a side note, your sig is great!

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Originally posted by hexnix Stay away from Siemens phones. I had a Siemens S40 and it was junk would never have service, would take long time to read from SimCard, etc. I then upgraded to a Siemens S56 after given an upgrade special and it isn't much better, have to charge the battery every night before phone dies (and thats not even from excessive usage). In Europe however, Siemens work flawlessly... probably because they are new to North America, and haven't perfected all the little bugs in the phones working on the different GSM systems used here.

It has nothing to do with different GSM systems; in Europe they use 800mhz/1800mhz frequencies and we use 850mhz/1900mhz. 850mhz is used by Rogers only though and they're really pushing manufacturers to modify their NA models to support this frequencey, so most phones have to be specially modified for Rogers. But Fido uses 1900mhz, which means any Tri-Band phone will work no problem.

As for the S40; I just upgraded from it a few days ago. I used it for 2 years and its had its share of problems (sometimes it wouldn't be able to access my Inbox or any Messages for that matter); all was solved though once somebody helped me out with it. And the S40 isn't a real Siemens phone to begin with, since its made by Bosch

Right now I'm using the Siemens M55 and I have very minor, nitpicky complaints about it, but most of it will be fixed once I upgrade the firmware. It holds onto the signal very very well (at 1 bar, it's as clear as with 3-4 even), and the interface is very well designed.

You're one of the first few people taht really complained about Siemens phones, so I think you really just had bad luck with them. But yea, if you don't like them then switch to a Sony-Ericsson phone. They're great as well.

Panasonic GD67 is a piece of crap. It has slow menues, very few options, horrible message interface, weak battery and a stupid power plug.

hex yeh

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Originally posted by Nadi CynepMeH, I have a motorola 720i too, and with the exception of the charging problem its fine for me. On the other hand, t-mobile is the worst service provider ever, there coverage is so bad its insane.

If anyone has T(errible)-Mobile never sign up for their phone exchange program, they charge you anyway if you have problems with phone....They charged me $70 bucks & the cost of the new phone when I sent mine back to the company & said that the fact that the phone was $h!t was because I messed it up,,,,,If you have their service, never send the phone in, take it to a retail shop,,,I've since sue them & got quite a bit of money for the trouble.

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Originally posted by mxngdotorg If anyone has T(errible)-Mobile never sign up for their phone exchange program, they charge you anyway if you have problems with phone....They charged me $70 bucks & the cost of the new phone when I sent mine back to the company & said that the fact that the phone was $h!t was because I messed it up,,,,,If you have their service, never send the phone in, take it to a retail shop,,,I've since sue them & got quite a bit of money for the trouble.

I have sprint and my skinny phone. Works great- Great Coverage-
Customer Service is shit- but hey- dont call em and pay your bill!


Sanyo SCP6400

I'd say best in the U.S. have to be Verizon and Sprint... It seems like everyone is behind them in coverage, service and technology.... I have Sprint and it's actually the first cellular company I've never had a problem with... (Don't ever get cingular if you want to actually hear a phone conversation)....

Sprint's service in my area is horrible (Indianapolis). I randomly will get alerts saying I have a voicemail, even though my phone never rang. The other thing that pisses me off about it, is that you have to get on the Vision Web to get your text messages. Getting on the Vision Web sucks majorly, especially since it's extremely slow and you have to have a good signal. Sprint's customer service...oh gawd...don't get me started on that.

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Originally posted by CynepMeH Hey, I remember when you lost your job and went to work for AT&T... You must miss your burger king fry cook job.. As far as being a n00b who doesn't understand Celluar technology - I design network systems that service over 178 million customers, and helps manage $2.3Trillion dollars in assets, while you're clerking away selling shitty phones and plans in your local AT&T mall shack. So, STFU plz??

I don"t know why people call them cellular anymore being that they use digital CDMA/TDMA/GSM now
unless you are just referring to the fact that they change from site to site (cells)
but it isnt the way cellular used to be

oh .. and as for nextel.. thats its own beast

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Originally posted by xKaoSx I have sprint and my skinny phone. Works great- Great Coverage- Customer Service is shit- but hey- dont call em and pay your bill! Sanyo SCP6400

AHAHAHA that looks like some kind of sex toy with a built in cellphone!! ROFL

I'm currenty using an old Samsung T100 - quite reliable considering what its been through hehe

The phone I really want to get is the Samsung E700 - but my wallet gets freaked out everytime I mention it





In terms of service/coverage/reception, I'm not too sure about USA, but here down under in Australia its not that great

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