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Posted by Crazy Serb on Nov-30-2003 18:49:

pfft... another one bites the dust


Posted by Rocco on Nov-30-2003 18:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Crazy Serb
pfft... another one bites the dust


GO back to ur corner...
bwahahahahaha


Posted by StereoPrincess on Nov-30-2003 18:57:

quote:
Originally posted by LoCa
We don't even have tough security checks at the entrance of clubs, and the club itself did not close either.


But could they really check for rats inside your head tho?



RIP


Posted by bomberMAN on Nov-30-2003 18:58:

quote:
Originally posted by charmscars
wow. how innapropriate. please refrain from
making these kind of assumptions w/o knowing the details.


RIP

love for malek. i'm sorry


notice the: "If that is what happened", i'm still drunk i tried to say: Who knows what happened and i forgot to put a sarcastic smily


Posted by jon jon on Nov-30-2003 22:51:

Any updates?

I'm assuming Aria still was a go last night.


Posted by Skipper on Nov-30-2003 22:59:

quote:
Originally posted by halo20
Any updates?

I'm assuming Aria still was a go last night.


Aria was a go last night....but I don't know anything else about what happened.


Posted by malek on Dec-01-2003 01:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Aria was a go last night....but I don't know anything else about what happened.



yeah definitly a go, I just woke up

I went insde at the beginning of the night totaly not in the mood. But inside one hour, people so friendly, amazing party going, acquaviva totaly crazy, i couldn't just hold myself but smile at the music and the atmosphere.

Things a bit clearer now, chatted with a buddy who works as security, he was still not feeling great (told me he had puked at the scene). The guy took too much stuff, went ape shit jumping on people on the dancefloor, total danger to clubgoers. Security called in to restrain him, he was in his 30s and fat, got a heart attack and died right there on the spot.

Police shut down the club at 1045 while barbara was still spinning, she was angry because she had no idea what had happened... its understandable.

I must say, that the club yesterday was more packed than the day before, total party mood, in fact at noon, when the music stopped, people didn't leave they cheered for a good 10 minutes and wanted music (was even asked to drop a couple of tunes ) Skipper, if you think the night before was crazy, well saturday was out of this world! The 3 guest djs were just too good and demential!


Posted by discojoe on Dec-01-2003 01:16:

quote:
Originally posted by halo20
Given the fact that:
- he was 30
- Montreal has a reputation for obscene drug abuse (re: Speed)
- It was a cardiac arrest
- it was techno

I highly doubt it was a security guard beat down, but rather a heart attack caused by narcotics. (probably speed or blow) In which case, the scene took a hit.

Again, RIP.


happened upstaires.
upstairs = hip hop room
'nuff said


Posted by Redeye on Dec-01-2003 01:47:

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
Twilo was shut down after one death too.



actually, no...Sadly, there were several deaths at Twilo usually hidden in the closets or in the dumpster out back. Twilo was shut down not because of a death, but because of Guiliani
's quest to clean up NYC and to get rid of nightlife in general. His way of getting Twilo shut was to use Fire Code permit violations and it was just too much money to fix them. In that same amount of time kids have died at World Nightclub, Exit, and Soundfactory. Exit and SF were both shut down as well but only for short periods of time. The only club in NYC that was shut down due to deaths was the tunnel and that was only after probably 20 deaths there. They found a body in the dumpster next door and a girl the same week claimed she was raped in the unisex bathroom. That STILL didn't shut it down for good. Not until a federal prosecution into the owner of the club (tunnel and limelight) Peter Gatien did the clubs finally close as he was forced to sell his assests as he was indicted for drug trafficing


Posted by j_spot on Dec-01-2003 01:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Redeye
actually, no...Sadly, there were several deaths at Twilo usually hidden in the closets or in the dumpster out back. Twilo was shut down not because of a death, but because of Guiliani
's quest to clean up NYC and to get rid of nightlife in general. His way of getting Twilo shut was to use Fire Code permit violations and it was just too much money to fix them. In that same amount of time kids have died at World Nightclub, Exit, and Soundfactory. Exit and SF were both shut down as well but only for short periods of time. The only club in NYC that was shut down due to deaths was the tunnel and that was only after probably 20 deaths there. They found a body in the dumpster next door and a girl the same week claimed she was raped in the unisex bathroom. That STILL didn't shut it down for good. Not until a federal prosecution into the owner of the club (tunnel and limelight) Peter Gatien did the clubs finally close as he was forced to sell his assests as he was indicted for drug trafficing


what a wonderful buisness we take part in....


Posted by Redeye on Dec-01-2003 02:12:

quote:
Originally posted by j_spot
what a wonderful buisness we take part in....


hehe, never had a death at any of my parties


WMC party shall be interesting


Posted by ZinG on Dec-01-2003 02:33:

Aria was packed at 10am for Acquaviva/Carter/Lawler.
800~1000 people were still on dancefloor at that time!!
Barbara was even there for most of the night.... Skipper u missed it


Posted by Skipper on Dec-01-2003 04:08:

quote:
Originally posted by ZinG
Aria was packed at 10am for Acquaviva/Carter/Lawler.
800~1000 people were still on dancefloor at that time!!
Barbara was even there for most of the night.... Skipper u missed it


haha

We thought about going back but were too exhausted!!

Nice meeting you on Friday


Posted by brunette on Dec-01-2003 04:17:

quote:
Originally posted by LoCa
I know recently here we had an incident where a kid ripped one of his eyes out because "there were rats inside his head"



I don't think I've ever heard anything more disturbing... errrrr


Posted by malek on Dec-01-2003 04:28:

quote:
Originally posted by discojoe
happened upstaires.
upstairs = hip hop room
'nuff said


no happened in the main room


Posted by Backlight on Dec-01-2003 04:30:

It�s unfortunate this had to happen no matter what the circumstances were surrounding the death.

What is also unfortunate is how this will further affect the publics perception about after hours clubs, drug use and alike. This individual could have overdosed at home and no one would have thought twice about it, but because it was at a club peoples opinion will be much different.


Posted by rabbitjoker on Dec-01-2003 15:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Redeye
Peter Gatien


For those who didn't know: Peter Gatien is a Canadian.


Posted by rabbitjoker on Dec-01-2003 16:36:

Worried......

This type of thing happening is never good for a scene. Events such as these bring unneeded attention by the media and authorities - who love nothing more than to sensationalize the story and demonize the electronic dance music scene as drug abusing zombies (it's 11pm and do you know where your kids are?).

The same thing happened a few years ago when that guy died at a rave (held in an underground parking garage). The end result = no more big raves in Toronto (and none on city property). Imagine if the one of the clubs in Toronto had something like this happen back then - the Fantino police state would probably have shut down the club too.

Lets hope the result of the investigation into this event doesn't impact Aria or any other of the clubs in Montreal. And most of all - lets hope it doesn't re-spark the debate into dance music/party drugs/etc (which may then trickle back into Toronto).

I am worried about the consequences of this. We all know that it's been a relatively quiet period for the scene in terms of negative press - and I'm sure the authorities are just waiting for an excuse to clamp down, raid parties and shut down events.

Lets keep our fingers crossed that it gets sorted out quickly and then the calm returns (with no repercussions for our hobby).


Posted by Skipper on Dec-01-2003 22:10:

I believe Montreal has been going through some changes in the last six months with respect to the amount of negative attention the after-hours scene is getting. I recall there being a bill that was in development to shut down or restrict the after hours or something...perhaps someone from the Mtl forum could better explain what I'm talking about. I can't remember all of the details.

However, Aria has never come across to me as the main culprit of this sort of thing...like, Stereo was open until midnight on Sunday. That's almost 24 hours of partying. In the middle of a residential neighborhood. I can admit that after-hours partying in itself can be considered excess by outsiders, but to me, keeping a club open for almost 24 hours IS excessive, period.


Posted by sohaness on Dec-01-2003 22:15:

^ not when you have david morales and frankie knuckles working the decks!

it was morales' last party at stereo anyway, so i guess he wanted to go out with a bang!

steve.


Posted by Skipper on Dec-01-2003 22:24:

quote:
Originally posted by sohaness
^ not when you have david morales and frankie knuckles working the decks!

it was morales' last party at stereo anyway, so i guess he wanted to go out with a bang!

steve.


Saturday night was? Hrm, didn't know that.


Posted by sohaness on Dec-01-2003 22:30:

yup there were all these rumours of it being his last night, and apparently it was made official during the party.

there is also a new afterhours opening in montreal called 'gravity'. it's angel moraes' club - this is the same guy that originally built the system at stereo. if the sound at stereo is any indication, this new place should be phenomenal!

looks like the montreal afterhours scene is pretty healthy at the moment.

steve.


Posted by rabbitjoker on Dec-01-2003 22:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
keeping a club open for almost 24 hours IS excessive, period.


Lol.. When I was in NYC over Halloween - Sound Factory was open from 10pm Friday until 10am Monday - non stop. People were ordering in food. It was unlike anything I have ever seen.


Posted by The Highroller on Dec-01-2003 22:56:

I would definately like to see how this one folds out. As someone said before, that's a pretty lame news report. It's very vague, and open to way too much interpretation.

I know if I read that article and wasn't into the scene what I would read is:

Guy takes drugs because he's at a club, and clubs are only around for drugs. Guy flips out and crooked bouncers beat him to death. He died of an overdose AND of club security brutality


Posted by Skipper on Dec-01-2003 22:57:

I just remembered that when Barbara and her crew arrived just before 4am, there was a giant camera crew following her,not just with a videocamera, but with professional equipment. They filmed her entrance through the club, unpacking her bags and the first little bit of her set. I asked Malek about it and he said they were from a french television station and GLOBAL NEWS. (wtf?)

Thank god they weren't still there when this shizzah went down....talk about awful, unnecessary press that would have been.


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