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when gielen sampled igor s - boomerang in that one video at club vida or somethin (i don't quite remember the name of it) it was amazing, and the crowd went wild too. but the track itself is pretty boring


i'd have to agree with Scott Bond vs. Solarstone - 3rd Earth, amazing as hell track

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Originally posted by ASOT100 when gielen sampled igor s - boomerang in that one video at club vida or somethin (i don't quite remember the name of it) it was amazing, and the crowd went wild too. but the track itself is pretty boring

It's all about hearing it live boys and girls

Oh, and another mention goes to Rewinders - Pacific Dance. They just don't make em as hypnotic and entrancing as that anymore.

Michael Splint Presents Eruption - I Feel Free (Dj Choose & Fs That Mucho Instrumental)

So dark and powerful

Also, Mauro Picotto - New Time New Place is wank but a different type of tech trance/computer game music hybrid

Marco V - C:\Del *.mp3

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Originally posted by jdjd no, but it follows the formula of many techno tunes, making it not trance

Yeah? Did you ever listen to techno?

It has nothing to do with techno, Tiesto has nothing to do with techno.

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Originally posted by jdjd no, but it follows the formula of many techno tunes, making it not trance

traffic is crap

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Originally posted by YaleTrance Traffic... trance? yes, tech-trance unconventional? very. no lameass buildup-breakdown original? regardless of sampling, it doesn't follow the formula or the norms of dutch trance. that is all.

playing with the release button is one of the most generic things that exist. for a tiesto track it may be original, but in general most definitely not.

i'd even classify this track as plain dance.

Hmmmm...

Interesting Thread

I'm not sure when these tracks came out, but anything by Tsykhra, and Way Out West - Muthafucka seemed to be not your typical run of the mill trance

And alot of tracks that fery corsten came out with this year were different, Right of Way, Rock Your Body Rock, Punk (I think that was this year, 2002 maybe?)

Traffic is definately another good mention, along with Marco V - Godd and Del C:\*.mp3

I would also say Armin Van Buuren's Sunburn and Ferry's Indigo would be another two tracks that had innovative melodies.

Thats all I can think of right now.

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Originally posted by tor8024 playing with the release button is one of the most generic things that exist. for a tiesto track it may be original, but in general most definitely not. i'd even classify this track as plain dance.

Traffic is original for its layering and minimalism within the dutch trance structure, not for the use of release. If this is eurodance, it's the most complex eurodance track ever. But since it's not, it's just unconventional and original trance.

how is it complex?

there aren't many layers at all..

Ferry Corsten - Right Of Way

also Mauro Picotto - New Time New Place is strange but nice.

M.I.K.E - turn out the lights is also weird and nice.

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Originally posted by tor8024 how is it complex? there aren't many layers at all..

It's not about the quantity of layers, it's about the quality. The harmonization and counterpoint of Traffic as it progresses through the track is extremely minimal and subtle, but very effective in its mood creation-uplifting process. It is ultimately brilliant, no one else in trancedom can come up with something that musically well thought out.

Matti Laamanen - Flakes (Slusnik Luna Remix)
Questia - Nexus Asia (Subsphere Remix)
Airwave - When Things Go Wrong (Remix)
Altitude - Silence Is Loud (Neo & Farina Remix)
Hemstock & Jennings - Zulu
DJ Danjo & Rob Styles - Aragon (Intro Mix)
Quadraphonic - I Can Feel Your Love (U & K Remix)

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Originally posted by YaleTrance It's not about the quantity of layers, it's about the quality. The harmonization and counterpoint of Traffic as it progresses through the track is extremely minimal and subtle, but very effective in its mood creation-uplifting process. It is ultimately brilliant, no one else in trancedom can come up with something that musically well thought out.

its not trance!not even close, it has a 2 note bassline and the synth line is not even a melody.. and if tiesto started plucking at a banjo would you call it trance??

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Originally posted by jdjd its not trance!not even close, it has a 2 note bassline and the synth line is not even a melody.. and if tiesto started plucking at a banjo would you call it trance??

It's definitely much closer to what trance was intended to be when it was created than any of the stale formulaic 72-measure breakdown shit that you probably consider as trance. It's all about the minimalist hypnotic repetition of simple melodic patterns with complex harmonic layering and the use of deceptive cadences to captivate the listener and enhance the experience.

And structurally speaking, if you really think that Traffic is not trance then I recommend that you get schooling from someone that has a clue.

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Originally posted by Mebot Luke Chable- Ride was a nice departure from the regular anthemic trance formula.

I'd consider that prog house tbh

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Originally posted by Hequn I'd consider that prog house tbh

Its still pretty original IMO, no matter what genre it is

kid gorgeous - supersonic

kind of feels like New Time New Place
but i like this one better.
most definately original.

-dreamer

Airwave - When Things Go Wrong ---- amazing use of piano and very emotional saddening track, very few tracks have this effect and none others this year.

Aces Delight - Mental Theme (Ultra Trance Mix) ---- strikes me as being the most original melodic trance of the year

Michel De Hey vs. Secret Cinema - Another Sweater ---- dont think a lot else has sounded much like this all year

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Originally posted by goose_wh Michel De Hey vs. Secret Cinema - Another Sweater ---- dont think a lot else has sounded much like this all year

true! def. one of my top tracks of the year.

I consider the Faithfulness remix pretty "special". Same goes to Forever Waiting.

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Originally posted by chesco traffic is crap

i only bought it for the max walder mix anywayz,now thats kickin!

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Originally posted by YaleTrance It's not about the quantity of layers, it's about the quality. The harmonization and counterpoint of Traffic as it progresses through the track is extremely minimal and subtle, but very effective in its mood creation-uplifting process. It is ultimately brilliant, no one else in trancedom can come up with something that musically well thought out.

Hahahahahaa, you gotta be kidding me?! If there's one word that you can't use to describe Traffic, it's subtle. The melodies are loud in-your-face synth bashes, the kick is a muddy and sloppy lo-fi job(quality of layers? Don't make me laugh), and to top it all off it has shitloads of distortion and FX madness. And you're trying to tell me that it's "subtle" and "ultimately brilliant"? Gimme a break. Why do you think Tiesto didn't intend to release it in the first place? Cos it was just something he had slapped together for fun in his studio. It was purely due to the response it got on the floor that he even bothered to release it in the first place.

Then there's the fact that large portions of the track are based purely on Sean Deason's classic techno track Psychofuk - Psychofuk, which means that it wasn't Tiesto that came up with it in the first place, it was all based on another producer's work.

Having said all that I do like Traffic, it works well live and sounds quite different to the trance we're used to, but calling it "ultimately brilliant" and saying that "noone in trancedom can come up with something that musically well thought out" is pure bullshit, and makes me wonder how far the head of the person who said it is up Tiesto's ass.

didnt traffic just happen by mistake when tiesto was playing around with loops and synths? I dont even think he even intended for the song to be released since it was just a track he messed around with and played a few times. granted, i sorta like it, especially at parties but its no different than say, mark norman - overkill.

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper Hahahahahaa, you gotta be kidding me?! If there's one word that you can't use to describe Traffic, it's subtle. The melodies are loud in-your-face synth bashes, the kick is a muddy and sloppy lo-fi job(quality of layers? Don't make me laugh), and to top it all off it has shitloads of distortion and FX madness. And you're trying to tell me that it's "subtle" and "ultimately brilliant"? Gimme a break. Then there's the fact that large portions of the track are based purely on Sean Deason's classic techno track Psychofuk - Psychofuk, which means that it wasn't Tiesto that came up with it in the first place, it was all based on another producer's work. Having said all that I do like Traffic, it works well live and sounds quite different to the trance we're used to, but calling it "ultimately brilliant" and saying that "noone in trancedom can come up with something that musically well thought out" is pure bullshit, and makes me wonder how far the head of the person who said it is up Tiesto's ass.

The way he sampled Psychofuk is exactly what's so great about Traffic. The buildup and breakdown is very subtle, but you're misunderstanding what I mean with subtle. With subtle I mean the cadential progressions, the incorportation of the trance ethos into the simple minimal melody, which are factors that are actually not present in Psychofuk. I'm 100% sure that Fairy or Armin et. al. don't have what it takes to make such an effective dancefloor stormer. I know that in terms of production quality Traffic is not the best track out there, but it IS very unconventional and original trance, which is the topic of this thread.

Why did you need to insult me for speaking my mind anyways?

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