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James Zabiela is taking over 
J00F will save trance.
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| Originally posted by armandzadza J00F will save trance. |
uplifting or whatever its called these days is truly so dead. i practically dont listen to this style since the beginning of 2002 when i started realizing that it all began to sound the same. and now i cant stand those cheesey synths playing every week on asot. it just horrible. Well at least its very good to see that trance is taking on new forms in different styles. prog breaks for example. they r almost all trance just with a broken beat. the soundscapes are very complex and so amazing.
uplifting or whatever its called these days is truly so dead. i practically dont listen to this style since the beginning of 2002 when i started realizing that it all began to sound the same. and now i cant stand those cheesey synths playing every week on asot. it just horrible. Well at least its very good to see that trance is taking on new forms in different styles. prog breaks for example. they r almost all trance just with a broken beat. the soundscapes are very complex and so amazing. thats why i love this genrne now
there is always great music and shit music around. dig deeper.
have you ever tried listening to matt darey's records back to back?
- dave
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| Originally posted by davedresden have you ever tried listening to matt darey's records back to back? - dave |
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| Originally posted by davedresden there is always great music and shit music around. dig deeper. have you ever tried listening to matt darey's records back to back? - dave |
Everytime I see another thread like this it just makes me shake my head. There is plenty of great trance being produced these. People need to look beyond the big names and find the underated stuff,,, it's that simple. Go and see John'00'Fleming live and then tell yourself that trance shit these days.
thanks for coming out 
I didn't believe Ishkur initially, but he is right, trance is rather pretentious, overly formulaic, and.. well quite dead... Though, there is a lot of stuff that's closely related to trance (progressive house.. etc) that is very much alive..
Is it possible that people liked 1999 better than this year because they weren't able to download fifteen new livesets every week and oversaturate themselves with the tunes? Maybe in 1999 a tune was able to last longer than two months before it became old? I think that the production quality is weaker than 1999's at the moment, but at the same time, I think that people who listen to ASOT every week and expect it to be the next Oakenfold Essential Mix from 1999 are just kidding themselves.
Take a break. Try Zabiela, Freeland, Glaude, Barbara and then return to trance. Skip a week's ASOT. You're in so deep that you expect five new anthems each month.
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| Originally posted by 24K Everytime I see another thread like this it just makes me shake my head. |
Trance is not going downhill, its just evolving.. IMO
instead of epic buildups and breakdowns, we have seen elements from other genres, prog house tech techno psy etc..
This collaboration of different elements makes trance all the more intriguing.. Like TorontoTrance said..branch out into different genres of EDM, breaks and dnb or 2step even.. and see what that has to offer.
Come back to trance in about 6 months afterwards and see if it still sounds the same
Re: Trance dead in the water
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| Originally posted by Cobalt Face it: the genre is simply drifting with no real artistic innovation. It's the same cookie-cutter sound rampantly dominating production. Nothing distinctive. I've been digging into pre-98 production because there isn't enough good new work to keep my addiction satisfied, er, I mean, as much good work as there used to be. To my surprise, I've found many older productions exceeding today's. This is not doom and gloom; trance has been declining since 2001, and people who say it isn't are lying to themselves or ignoring what trance used to be. I remember people prophesizing that Gabriel & Dresden would be the saviours, but the actual results have been marginal, particularly with the plethora of radio remixes. I've heard nothing of particular note, with rare exception, in the last six months. Six months! Can't someone do a Matt Darey, work his or her ass off and help the genre back on its feet? Oh, who am I kidding. This is part of a cycle, irreversible by talent. Inevitably there will be upswing, but no time soon, I think. PvD has gone downhill. The "second coming" of Matt Darey fizzled. BT has moved away into other artistic directions. Ferry's new sound isn't catching (even though I think it has promise). Lange and Armin are recycling. Tiesto is in a production hibernation (though his return may change things). Sasha almost never produces. ASOT is a wasteland. Do I feel alone? Am I just jaded? If not, what to do now? What promising artists do you think are out there in this desert? |
BTW
i honestly do think trance has gone to shit this year
only a handful of good tunes and subpar tunes by g&D
blackwatch/quivver-loveless was being hammered last yr..but only real good pure euphoric ala piledriver(amoebassasin) tune this yr
Cobalt, excellent thread, I think you feel the same way I do. However, through my search for something innovative the only worth-while thing i stumbled on is progressive. Flame away, I don't care.. but its true. I know I've been saying this for months on the forums, but all this Armin bullshit, Nu NRG, and PvD crap is just that.. crap.
Good DJs / producers that I have discovered in the world of progressive in past 6 months are:
Sultan - Prog House - Tracks: "Night Visions", "If You Only Knew", "Sarges (Version Two)" with Tonedepth
Infusion - Prog House/Trance - Tracks: [remixes] "Running Up That Hill", "Pagan Poetry", "Do What You Want". [original works] "Girls Are Cruel"
Rouzbeh Delavari - Prog House/Trance - Tracks: "About You" (I aready expressed how much I love this one), "No Inspiration" with Can [sets] Rouzbeh Delavari - Exposure 90 min Mix, Rouzbeh Delavari - Set For Progresia
And I also believe that Junkie XL is very innovative.
In trance realm.. we have Kai Tracid doing it for hard-trance, Marco V for tech-trance, and Holden keeping it cool for tech/prog trance.
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| Originally posted by davedresden there is always great music and shit music around. dig deeper. have you ever tried listening to matt darey's records back to back? - dave |
Re: Trance dead in the water
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| Originally posted by Cobalt Face it: the genre is simply drifting with no real artistic innovation. It's the same cookie-cutter sound rampantly dominating production. Nothing distinctive. I've been digging into pre-98 production because there isn't enough good new work to keep my addiction satisfied, er, I mean, as much good work as there used to be. To my surprise, I've found many older productions exceeding today's. This is not doom and gloom; trance has been declining since 2001, and people who say it isn't are lying to themselves or ignoring what trance used to be. I remember people prophesizing that Gabriel & Dresden would be the saviours, but the actual results have been marginal, particularly with the plethora of radio remixes. I've heard nothing of particular note, with rare exception, in the last six months. Six months! Can't someone do a Matt Darey, work his or her ass off and help the genre back on its feet? Oh, who am I kidding. This is part of a cycle, irreversible by talent. Inevitably there will be upswing, but no time soon, I think. PvD has gone downhill. The "second coming" of Matt Darey fizzled. BT has moved away into other artistic directions. Ferry's new sound isn't catching (even though I think it has promise). Lange and Armin are recycling. Tiesto is in a production hibernation (though his return may change things). Sasha almost never produces. ASOT is a wasteland. Do I feel alone? Am I just jaded? If not, what to do now? What promising artists do you think are out there in this desert? |
Re: Trance dead in the water
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| Originally posted by Cobalt Face it: the genre is simply drifting with no real artistic innovation. It's the same cookie-cutter sound rampantly dominating production. Nothing distinctive. I've been digging into pre-98 production because there isn't enough good new work to keep my addiction satisfied, er, I mean, as much good work as there used to be. To my surprise, I've found many older productions exceeding today's. This is not doom and gloom; trance has been declining since 2001, and people who say it isn't are lying to themselves or ignoring what trance used to be. I remember people prophesizing that Gabriel & Dresden would be the saviours, but the actual results have been marginal, particularly with the plethora of radio remixes. I've heard nothing of particular note, with rare exception, in the last six months. Six months! Can't someone do a Matt Darey, work his or her ass off and help the genre back on its feet? Oh, who am I kidding. This is part of a cycle, irreversible by talent. Inevitably there will be upswing, but no time soon, I think. PvD has gone downhill. The "second coming" of Matt Darey fizzled. BT has moved away into other artistic directions. Ferry's new sound isn't catching (even though I think it has promise). Lange and Armin are recycling. Tiesto is in a production hibernation (though his return may change things). Sasha almost never produces. ASOT is a wasteland. Do I feel alone? Am I just jaded? If not, what to do now? What promising artists do you think are out there in this desert? |
pre 99 trance was very simplistic, nowadays the sounds are much more refined, sampling and musical software is better giving you more variety of sounds, and its much better quality. all this means that trance is much more diverse now than it was then.. so keep on listening to old tunes you've heard before, you are pretty much contradicting what you are saying...
btw, ASOT still kicks fuckin ass IMO
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| Originally posted by jdjd pre 99 trance was very simplistic, nowadays the sounds are much more refined, sampling and musical software is better giving you more variety of sounds, and its much better quality. all this means that trance is much more diverse now than it was then.. so keep on listening to old tunes you've heard before, you are pretty much contradicting what you are saying... btw, ASOT still kicks fuckin ass IMO |
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| Originally posted by davedresden there is always great music and shit music around. dig deeper. have you ever tried listening to matt darey's records back to back? - dave |
It's all about trends and bandwagons...
Everyone thinking prog trance is the savior will soon be saying the same stuff we all say about trance now.
I do agree on some of your opinions though. Trance is just recycling itself with the same old stuff over and over, but that's the way all things in life work.
mark otten - tranquility
im tired of people posting trance is dead posts, go listen to something else then
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| Originally posted by DJ Dingel Take a break. Try Zabiela, Freeland, Glaude, Barbara and then return to trance. Skip a week's ASOT. You're in so deep that you expect five new anthems each month. |
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| Originally posted by tc-fan get a fucking life...stop complaining about the music....let everyone here who is enjoying it better stufff....and 98,99 was good but dont exagerate..cuase if you hear alot of tune they sound weak compaired to today most sophiticated sound... |
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| Originally posted by jdjd pre 99 trance was very simplistic, nowadays the sounds are much more refined, sampling and musical software is better giving you more variety of sounds, and its much better quality. all this means that trance is much more diverse now than it was then.. so keep on listening to old tunes you've heard before, you are pretty much contradicting what you are saying... |
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| Originally posted by mndeg im tired of people posting trance is dead posts, go listen to something else then |
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