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Originally posted by 'mju:zik heres something from ARABICNEWS.com http://www.arabicnews.com/ansub/Dai...1998090836.html at least Homer Simpson can read. which is more than can be said for half of the muslim world.

article is dated 9/8/1998.

that's a bit more than 5 years ago. ALOT happend in the last 5 years.

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Originally posted by Rocco i wouldn't generalize if i were u. Such generalizations could lead into hot debates that are useless. In the mean time, please quote a very valid and recent source that has that figure u mentioned earlier. I would personally love to see that.

http://www.arabtimesonline.com/arab....asp?msgID=1428

AP article quoted by arab times online, the 300,000 figure was stated by most of the world's news agencies. including bbc.

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Originally posted by 'mju:zik http://www.arabtimesonline.com/arab....asp?msgID=1428 AP article quoted by arab times online, the 300,000 figure was stated by most of the world's news agencies. including bbc.

the source is still arabic based. i never belived arabic newspapers.

if u can, quote a foreign paper.

what generalizations? rocco? quote me!!!

heres bbc, from 9/2003, sorry i didnt look at the date before. read the article. 45 percent of kids dont even go to school.

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Originally posted by Rocco the source is still arabic based. i never belived arabic newspapers. if u can, quote a foreign paper.

if they are lying then wouldn't they lie to make muslims look better? not worse?

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Originally posted by Rocco the source is still arabic based. i never belived arabic newspapers. if u can, quote a foreign paper.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mi...ast/3253783.stm

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Originally posted by 'mju:zik what generalizations? rocco? quote me!!! heres bbc, from 9/2003, sorry i didnt look at the date before. read the article. 45 percent of kids dont even go to school.

well either way.. i lived in Egypt and i lived in Saudi arabia for half my life. All i know is ALOTTA ppl go to school and my guess would be more than 80% of the kids in Egypt go to school.

look at the top three professional fields: pharmacy, doctor, engineering. Chances are if u run into an Egyptian, he or she is one out of a three. If not, they're still a univ. grad.

usually these sources do not look at specefic areas but rather generalize and look at the Middle East as a whole. In Canada, we got our Newfies and our rocket scientests. U can't look at Newfiland and say "Canada is pretty dumb".

that's exactly what ur sources do. Therefore if ur source is flawed, your information is flawed, and ontop of all that, sorry to disapoint u but ur really supporting a lost cause.

middle eastern folks are not stupid. They're just brainwashed from the islamic extreemist regiemes that are run by the likes of Bin laden and our late captured friend here.

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Originally posted by Rocco sorry to disapoint u but ur really supporting a lost cause.

what cause am i supporting exactly?

sure they aren't dumb, but can they read??? i bet most newfies can read. some monkeys can read.

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Originally posted by bomberMAN What Studies? done by JEWS?

Excuse me? I take offense to that. I've kept quiet about the other political ignorance in this thread, but you need to learn when to keep your mouth shut. Please keep inflammatory statements like that to yourself.

Rocco, I've had other Egyptian friends and I know what you're talking about, but I don't think that Egypt is really part of the whole Iraqi "connection". You and muzik are BOTH generalizing for a large number of Arabic/Islamic areas and neither one of you can be correct. Some of these countries really do have some of the worst education in the world; some of them have very good education. I think Iraq is probably leaning toward the former.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Excuse me? I take offense to that. I've kept quiet about the other political ignorance in this thread, but you need to learn when to keep your mouth shut. Please keep inflammatory statements like that to yourself. Rocco, I've had other Egyptian friends and I know what you're talking about, but I don't think that Egypt is really part of the whole Iraqi "connection". You and muzik are BOTH generalizing for a large number of Arabic/Islamic areas and neither one of you can be correct. Some of these countries really do have some of the worst education in the world; some of them have very good education. I think Iraq is probably leaning toward the former.

you have to generalize when speaking of a community of so many nations. obviously egypt will be different than sudan.

but mujiskz u said the middle east. That alone is general.

this is where exactly most problems start.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Excuse me? I take offense to that. I've kept quiet about the other political ignorance in this thread, but you need to learn when to keep your mouth shut. Please keep inflammatory statements like that to yourself.

That is exactly why I SAID THAT!!!, I have nothing agains JEWS...

and mjuzik or water ur name is, why u starting to call names? Can't get the attention? wtfck's up with that, I don't have time to flame with u. I know that is what ur ignorant ass wants anywas. Turned the whole thread into: "MUSLIMS ARE STUPID"... man just shut da fuck up an go post another thread with that title or something...

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Originally posted by bomberMAN U watch 2 much TV!!!

probably.. we all do. that doesnt change the fact that he murdered 300000 of his own people

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Originally posted by bomberMAN They aren't after SADAM, its just another bullshit PROPAGANDA story just so they can go after the real deal, the fuel! MOTHERFUCKEN CAPITALISTIC COUNTRY....

doesnt really matter what they were after. the iraqi people are far better off without sadam hussein. thats a fact. no other arab nation was willing to help. thats a fact too. say what you want about your 'arab brotherhood' or whatever.. but the only country that actually did something that helped the iraqi peope was america

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Originally posted by bomberMAN Who gives a fuck if they caught him or not, im stick of watching USA this USA suck that. fucking piece of shit GOV and the dumbest people in the world per capita.

while its quite apparent you dont like the united states, that doesnt change the fact that this was the best thing for their people.

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Originally posted by 'mju:zik obviously there are brilliant ppl in every society. however, the restrictions on press and literature makes it hard to educate kids. especially women. but thats a whole different issue. his mass graves hold 300,000 bodies alone. these are MASS GRAVES. im not taking into acount the amount of lives that were lost at his hand because of wars.

oooh please lets not begin counting how many the Amercians have killed in all these wars,you'll be surprised by the numbers.

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according to ACTUAL STUDIES the dumbest ppl in the world reside in muslim middle eastern nations. this is because of ppl like saddam who don't allow for their ppl to be educated. you can hate capitalism all you want, but that still won't change the fact that muslim ppl as a whole are far less educated than the western world.

you really have to read some more before you come to a conclusion like this.I think The Americans are by far the dumbest I've seen.

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Originally posted by 'mju:zik what cause am i supporting exactly? sure they aren't dumb, but can they read??? i bet most newfies can read. some monkeys can read.

that's some funny shit...
so ur saying if kids don't go to school? They are DUMB???
and if people can't read? They are DUMB???
ur DUMB


Being bright and having the ability to understand things has nothing to with reading... anyone can lear how to fucking read, its not that hard, a fucking fone... damn werk! be bakkk

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Originally posted by discojoe probably.. we all do. that doesnt change the fact that he murdered 300000 of his own people doesnt really matter what they were after. the iraqi people are far better off without sadam hussein. thats a fact. no other arab nation was willing to help. thats a fact too. say what you want about your 'arab brotherhood' or whatever.. but the only country that actually did something that helped the iraqi peope was america while its quite apparent you dont like the united states, that doesnt change the fact that this was the best thing for their people.

and that's a fact according to who? how is that a fact?
that's what CNN says on TV, is that how u came to that conculsion?

I can see The U.S media using this to make Bush look good and to gain support for his re election,and since the Americans are close minded people they will believe anything they hear on that damn CNN!!

why do people believe all the stuff they hear? take ANY example and chances are if u are familiar with what they are covering, ull realize its pure BS...

for instance the trance scene, ull read all these bad things and ull know right away its bs...its the same with everything else,

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Originally posted by bomberMAN and that's a fact according to who? how is that a fact? that's what CNN says on TV, is that how u came to that conculsion?

no i mean im going to tell you the truth thats just something i assumed. i probably shouldnt have said that it was a fact. i just assumed being alive and being allowed to speak was better than being put in a gas tank for speaking your mind. maybe im wrong though.. i havnt checked with al jazeera yet. maybe you can just verify that for me.

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Originally posted by 'mju:zik according to ACTUAL STUDIES the dumbest ppl in the world reside in muslim middle eastern nations. this is because of ppl like saddam who don't allow for their ppl to be educated. you can hate capitalism all you want, but that still won't change the fact that muslim ppl as a whole are far less educated than the western world.

This comment has completely made you look like an IDIOT. please examplify these "actual studies".

I think you should also watch your filthy mouth before it gets to you.

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Originally posted by discojoe probably.. we all do. that doesnt change the fact that he murdered 300000 of his own people

sorry, but i can't as easily accept that "fact" just yet, simply because the report states, "US officials say there MAY be as many as 260 mass graves in Iraq...", keyword being may... just like it was a "fact" that he had WMDs which was grounds for the invasion, and how it was a fact he had links to Osama (remember him?), and i won't even go into ex-YU related "facts" fed by the western media

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doesnt really matter what they were after. the iraqi people are far better off without sadam hussein. thats a fact. no other arab nation was willing to help. thats a fact too. say what you want about your 'arab brotherhood' or whatever.. but the only country that actually did something that helped the iraqi peope was america

you're right, iraqies are better off without him, but how it came about was wrong... its like the whole world imposing sanctions against canada and saying they won't lift sanctions until canada gets a new prime minister that the rest of the world likes more than the current one... so how right would that be?

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while its quite apparent you dont like the united states, that doesnt change the fact that this was the best thing for their people.

yeah, but pretty much the rest of the world dislikes US too, you've got to wonder why...

I find it funny that they can find a single man, but when it comes to WMD, not one was found.... and Saddam was moving every 3-4 hours.
One man moving compared to many bombs that cannot move or are hard to transport.

The US will use this episode and shove it down the throats of Americans in order for them to forget about everything else.

This capture will dig more graves for American soldiers.

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Originally posted by TranceGeek sorry, but i can't as easily accept that "fact" just yet, simply because the report states, "US officials say there MAY be as many as 260 mass graves in Iraq...", keyword being may... just like it was a "fact" that he had WMDs which was grounds for the invasion, and how it was a fact he had links to Osama (remember him?), and i won't even go into ex-YU related "facts" fed by the western media

sigh.. fine whatever believe what you want. sadam was a good man. everything is a big conspiracy by the media and george bush is the modern day hitler. i guess you are right and are just more educated than me...

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Originally posted by TranceGeek you're right, iraqies are better off without him, but how it came about was wrong... its like the whole world imposing sanctions against canada and saying they won't lift sanctions until canada gets a new prime minister that the rest of the world likes more than the current one... so how right would that be?

i may be wrong so how should sadam have been removed? im all ears being the ignorant cnn watcher that i am...

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Originally posted by discojoe no i mean im going to tell you the truth thats just something i assumed. i probably shouldnt have said that it was a fact. i just assumed being alive and being allowed to speak was better than being put in a gas tank for speaking your mind. maybe im wrong though.. i havnt checked with al jazeera yet. maybe you can just verify that for me.

I don't know what does or what doesn't go on there, from all I know the only stories we here are from CNN and what you guys go by is what CNN says. CNN will never once out of a billion make themselfs/country/president look bad. and we all know that everyone makes mistakes right? So howcome these people don't? Howcome they are prefect? Right there u know they lie to u, and even if that makes it a small lie its still a lie! But the reality is far far away from what they so call "TRUTH"... ;(

So what ur saying is that SADAM put his own people into gas tanks because they spoke up? This once again is according to whoom?

Even if that is true I don't see how USA guv would operate differently, a lot of people that know important shit get assassinated by this guv, i dont trust'm one bit...

what happened to MALCOM X? just one of many examples... FBI,CIA whatever their acronim is, how do u know that they don't kill people in USA that have soemthing to say, which they don't want to get out there.

The so called "FREEDOM OF SPEACH" bullshit... Trust me SADAM's people were happy down there, that country had MONEY, had power, it was a fucking threat to the USA! I can't i need to stop talking about this shit, this jsut goes on and on and on. Noone listens, everyone jsut throws their fucking point across and thats it... fuck it

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Originally posted by discojoe everything is a big conspiracy by the media and george bush is the modern day hitler.

haha no way, bush is way too stupid to be like hitler

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