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Re: Smoking bylaw coming into affect?

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Originally posted by Cyrus King After the wonderful Marco V session last night, i came home with my lungs filled with 3 hours of second hand smoke.

Definately ... I hate smelling like an ashtray after a club

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 people are such whiners aren't they? free country my fucking ass.

whiners?

go ride your zamboni

a club isnt a club without smoke haha..

btw please dont take me seriosuly...

it actually would be nice to come home without reeking like smoke...

I think it would work. You still can have smoking n clubs but you have to go outside. It could be pretty easy to set up at the Guv. Not so easy to set up at System but its still possible. Many of my smoker friend's got used to it in Ottawa and I'm sure Toronto can too.

And especially no smoking in restaurants anywhere will be a plus. Eventho they have the non-smoking section it still makes me sick when I catch a wiff of smoke from the smoking section.

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Originally posted by maxtuh the way i look at it , me being a smoker, it would help me quit. because at the club is where you tend to smoke the most.

Same here. I find I only light up when I'm out at a club in toronto (living in waterloo prevents me from doing so here). If they banned it, I probably would not head outside.

Well me being a smoker I like the fact that I can smoke in the club but I can also see the problems the non-smokers have, and I can understand the need for the by-law although I don't want it but that opinion is totally biased of course...

Seriousley though how many of you non-smokers who bitch about second hand smoke drive automobiles?

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Originally posted by djeso whiners? go ride your zamboni

and that has what to do with smokers?

and you people ARE a big bunch of whiners...it feels as if I'm in kindergarten again and somebody stole your gloves before recess.

Over 30% of Canadians still smoke, and MOST of them are considerate about it. I certainly don't go around blowing it in people's faces like an idiot and people can certainly AVOID me if they see I'm smoking. I agree that restaurants should be smoke-free, but bars/clubs? Nope..they should be free game...they've always been full of smoke..if you don't like it...fucking stay home. 2nd hand smoke might kill, but so does the air you breathe, the food you eat, the drugs you take.

For a country whose people thinks they're free, it seems to me as if we're just going backwards...more rules...rules, rules, rules. Oh, and if Toronto goes no-smoking, watch the city's economy die again like it did back in 1999 or whatever.

This is why Europe is the best...they don't concern themselves with such petty things like making a club free of smoking. Even Tiesto said there are far too many rules in North America...and he's fucking right.

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Originally posted by KemisT Seriousley though how many of you non-smokers who bitch about second hand smoke drive automobiles?

EXACTLY! CO2 emissions kill more people and cause more diseases than second hand smoke in any given year...but of course you guys won't say anything about that, because most of you own a car and can't be bothered in trying to help save the environment and reduce cancer. Of course not...you just attack smokers and blame them for everything.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 EXACTLY! CO2 emissions kill more people and cause more diseases than second hand smoke in any given year...but of course you guys won't say anything about that, because most of you own a car and can't be bothered in trying to help save the environment and reduce cancer. Of course not...you just attack smokers and blame them for everything.

Blame smokers!!!! idiot

Anyways, this no-smoking by-law is awesome. I recently enjoyed it in Winnipeg and it was amazing. LA, and NYC i believe have the same laws and clubs are just as packed there as they are anywhere.

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Originally posted by che Blame smokers!!!! idiot Anyways, this no-smoking by-law is awesome. I recently enjoyed it in Winnipeg and it was amazing. LA, and NYC i believe have the same laws and clubs are just as packed there as they are anywhere.

yeah...how about we just ban alcohol outright because it gives people liver disease and people who drive drunk kill people in car accidents. Or how about we ban junk food because it contributes to the obesity of North America, kills thousands upon thousands every year and drains the healthcare system?

Seriously...when is it going to STOP? How can smoking be a social taboo, but more than half of you drink alcohol, obviously eat too much, smoke fucking weed, do drugs, drive cars and pollute the environment, etc, etc...the list goes on. If we ban smoking, we should just go ahead and ban everything that's potentially lethal to the human body.

I once had this fat disgusting woman come up to me at a party and say "how can you smoke...it's such a health risk and so disgusting!" I replied by saying "maybe you should stop fucking eating Wendy's everyday, because you're far more grotesque."

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 and that has what to do with smokers?

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 EXACTLY! CO2 emissions kill more people and cause more diseases than second hand smoke in any given year...

Source please.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 yeah...how about we just ban alcohol outright because it gives people liver disease and people who drive drunk kill people in car accidents. Or how about we ban junk food because it contributes to the obesity of North America, kills thousands upon thousands every year and drains the healthcare system?

You choose those things for yourself. But non-smokers can't choose to get away from second hand smoke in a club.

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess You choose those things for yourself. But non-smokers can't choose to get away from second hand smoke in a club.

and people who get killed by drunk drivers can't choose either...so I guess we should just ban alcohol outright. It's the same argument...the government and people decided to honour one and not the other.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 and people who get killed by drunk drivers can't choose either...so I guess we should just ban alcohol outright. It's the same argument...the government and people decided to honour one and not the other.

Well, drinking and driving is illegal so your point doesn't make sense.

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess Well, drinking and driving is illegal so your point doesn't make sense.

sure it does. It's illegal, but people still do it...the only way to curtail the problem is to ban alcohol outright in bars/club, etc...but of course that WON'T happen. But smoking can be banned...it's hypocritical and inconsistent government action.

Besides...the government will NEVER ban either of these two products..they make far too much money off of it.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 Besides...the government will NEVER ban either of these two products..they make far too much money off of it.

no one is banning anything. they are just limiting the areas you smoke it. you are fighting a losing battle. every big city is going to eventually ban smoking in bars/clubs/restaurants you might as well get used to it.

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess no one is banning anything. they are just limiting the areas you smoke it. you are fighting a losing battle. every big city is going to eventually ban smoking in bars/clubs/restaurants you might as well get used to it.

Every big city in our not-so-free-anymore North American society will ban smoking, yes, but it doesn't mean I, or other smokers, have to like it. I have a very hard time believing that Europe will ban smoking anywhere and since I'll probably end up there in the next few years, all the power to them.

Besides...I live in London and it's already totally non-smoking since June. I'm dealing with it just fine, but all the good bars/clubs built heated patios for the smokers and guess what...there are MORE people outside at any given time than inside in most places. That says a lot right there.....

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Originally posted by maxtuh the way i look at it , me being a smoker, it would help me quit. because at the club is where you tend to smoke the most.

yea, exactly

and I can definately see where the non-smokers are coming from and how it annoys them. i know it'll definately be hard for me to not smoke in a club the first few times this would come into effect.

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH yea, exactly and I can definately see where the non-smokers are coming from and how it annoys them. i know it'll definately be hard for me to not smoke in a club the first few times this would come into effect.

you can always go outside to the patio or have a butt in the shitter.

well...thats the thing...we dont' know how clubs here in toronto will adjust to it. Guv has a patio, but I'm not going out there in January or February, thank you very much.

if they have room to build a patio, I think Toronto clubs/bars should follow the London example...build a semi enclosed patio outside the club, on top of it or behind it...and then set up 3 or 4 good electric heaters...problem solved. It's working quite well in London...as I said...it's busier outside than inside.

But I realise there are space issues in Downtown Toronto that could pose a huge problem. Oh well...when I was in New York last year, I just had a smoke in the bathroom.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 Every big city in our not-so-free-anymore North American society will ban smoking, yes, but it doesn't mean I, or other smokers, have to like it. I have a very hard time believing that Europe will ban smoking anywhere and since I'll probably end up there in the next few years, all the power to them. Besides...I live in London and it's already totally non-smoking since June. I'm dealing with it just fine, but all the good bars/clubs built heated patios for the smokers and guess what...there are MORE people outside at any given time than inside in most places. That says a lot right there.....

you're not too bright, can't you respect other opinions ... or does mr. right have to always be right ??????

go back to your zamboni

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Originally posted by djeso you're not too bright, can't you respect other opinions ... or does mr. right have to always be right ?????? go back to your zamboni

you're a retard.

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