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I think that a lot of tracks are ruined by cheesy out of place vocals. But others are made even better by vocals. Its hard to use vocals in a track, but if you use them right, they can really inhance a song, imo.
I can think of a few tunes that infuriated me in years past because they'd take three lines (THREE LINES) from a 25 year-old song and have it sung over and over and over...
I want to see the sunshine after the rain
I want to see bluebirds flying over the mountains again
oh where is the silver lining shining at the rainbow's end
(repeated ad nauseum, circa 1997)
THAT sort of thing infuriates me. So does the 'I'm freeeee, in ecstacyyyy, fly with meeeee" stuff. Almost as derivitive as an R&B singer telling you that she is "the deal, and knows it's for real".
I'm all angry now. Bugger.
Most of the time I enjoy them. The most amazing trance song with vocals has to be Marco V- I feel you. The lyrics are very creative and have a distinct meaning to the individuals perception. Trance is always hot but I dont think it would be as powerful and versatile if all the songs were strictly instrumental.Marco V - I feel you
theres some songs that just wouldn't be the same without the vocals - in these instances i'd say they certainly don't ruin the track - sure theres many examples of vocals clearly ruining tracks - wheather they be clumbsy/throwaway lyrics or badly sung/produced vocals - but for me when i hear a killer track it's normally the vocal i'll remember.
Re: Do vocals ruin trance tracks?
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| Originally posted by jamesw1981 comments... |
i prefer a banging tune vocals do my head in there all commercial tunes with vocals in
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| Originally posted by mto Its harder to produce tracks with vocals though. |
it totally depends on the track.
Conjure One feat. Sinead O'Connor - Tears from the Moon [Tiesto ISOS Remix] would never be the same without the vocals, for exemple.
Another track - Airwaive - Breathing 2003. The full vocal mix sucks, but it's still those groovy "breeeeeaathiiin'" vocals that complete the track...so...
sometimes you need them, sometimes you're better off without...depends on the track.
I also agree that it depends on the track. Generally lyrics for trance songs are not very well written. Usually it sounds like the track was produced and the vocals added as an afterthought.
I'd say that for every great vocal track, there's at least 20-30 crappy ones released. The worst is when you hear a song that would be great if instrumental, but is ruined by cheese lyrics. Ugh.
i like vocals when they are used as another musical element. it's even better if you can't understand them 
but it really depends - it's a fine line.
put cheesy vocals with a cheesy trance song and you have instant crap...like in lost tribe - gamemaster. EW.
It's pretty much all a matter of tastes and depends on the track. Some are made by the vocals, and some are absolutely destroyed by them. I don't mind vocal tracks if they are well done and not overbearing, but prefer instrumentals / dubs.
When it comes to vocals it is the quality of the lyrics that you have to consider. If they have had some thought put into them then sure vocals are great. Why do vocals in trance songs have to be so cheesy generally, why can't lyrics be like other genres of music where they are the focus not just an after thought. Not too say all trance songs are like this, but there is lots out there.
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| Originally posted by fridgefan I also agree that it depends on the track. Generally lyrics for trance songs are not very well written. Usually it sounds like the track was produced and the vocals added as an afterthought. I'd say that for every great vocal track, there's at least 20-30 crappy ones released. The worst is when you hear a song that would be great if instrumental, but is ruined by cheese lyrics. Ugh. |
Thats one song that is beautiful enough without any vocals...they jus ruin it
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| Originally posted by TrancEuphoria When it comes to vocals it is the quality of the lyrics that you have to consider. If they have had some thought put into them then sure vocals are great. Why do vocals in trance songs have to be so cheesy generally, why can't lyrics be like other genres of music where they are the focus not just an after thought. Not too say all trance songs are like this, but there is lots out there. |
I love vocals, but sometimes a dub is way better then a vocal mix.
Chicane, Oceanlab etc are great but e.g. the vocal mix of Live Another Life...
Rule of the thumb is, if the song was around long enough without the vocal, vocals will ruin it (ex: Warrior - Drama, Riva - Stringer, Rank 1 - Airwave (with original male vocal)).. Exception: Armin - Song to the Ocean
Otherwise, if the vocal mix was there from the beggining, then the vocals are usually just fine.
So yeah..
no way! Vocals are awesome in lots of songs...I usually like vocal versions of songs better, as long as the vocals are not stupid haha. Then again, i guess that pretty much goes for any song. Certain vocal tracks have such compelling lyrics and beautiful voices from the singers...However, I tend to dislike male vocals in trance...
Or maybe im just a dumb girl who likes to sing in the shower haha
Two words :
Delerium - Silence
Still reduces me to tears when I hear it on the odd occasion.
IMO the human voice is still the most expressive and emotional of all instruments, when used by someone who knows what they're doing 
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| Originally posted by Jeskot7 The most amazing trance song with vocals has to be Marco V- I feel you[/B] |
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| Originally posted by MsGod However, I tend to dislike male vocals in trance... |
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| Originally posted by Jeskot7 The most amazing trance song with vocals has to be Marco V- I feel you. The lyrics are very creative and have a distinct meaning to the individuals perception..Marco V - I feel you |
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| Originally posted by jessicah Really? See, I'm the exact opposite, I get tired of hearing female vocals in trance all the damn time. Unless the voice is really distinctive, like the girl's voice from Iio for one obvious example, it just comes out sounding like every other vocal in a trance track. But just like with female vocalists, though, a male vocalist has to have the right sound, otherwise it will come out sounding too cheesy. I love the vocalist in Kane - Rain Down on Me, I think he has a very sexy voice, but I can see how after a couple of listens (and this song is overplayed) it can become cheesy. |
i recon when the producer has either made the music around the vocals or created both together then they tend to be ok. i bet most of the crap ones have been the people have added the vocals after.
sometimes...but not always. just depends on the voice & lyrics.
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| Originally posted by gOOD-tRiP i think vocals in trance is great. it puts in a whole new demension |
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