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Originally posted by Unknown DJ i think its the promoters and the warm up dj's falt. the promoter shoudlt have booked a warm up dj that plays banging music, if i was booked to warm up for schulz id b fucked cus i dont play prog, maybe the warm up dj was in the same position.

i don't think the promoter has anything to do w/ it. the dj should know who he's opening for and try to compliment him/her.(especially if it's an international dj)

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Originally posted by davidderail i don't think the promoter has anything to do w/ it. the dj should know who he's opening for and try to compliment him/her.(especially if it's an international dj)

that is damn true. i had to open for some australian dj, and i talked to him before my set. he said he was going to drop hard trance all night, so i started with some prog but moved into trance and then finished my set with 2 hard trance tracks, and then he picked up from there... its just something you have to DO as a dj

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Originally posted by davidderail i don't think the promoter has anything to do w/ it. the dj should know who he's opening for and try to compliment him/her.(especially if it's an international dj)

No?

I think it's just plain stupid to put a techno DJ on first and end with a progressive one.. And that's the responsibility of the promoter..

OK, the DJ in between can switch a bit from techno to tech-house to prog but I think that's exactly the opposite of how a night should be built up..

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Originally posted by razzi that is damn true. i had to open for some australian dj, and i talked to him before my set. he said he was going to drop hard trance all night, so i started with some prog but moved into trance and then finished my set with 2 hard trance tracks, and then he picked up from there... its just something you have to DO as a dj

which Dj if you can remember? (just interested)



Sounds Markus was put in a shit situation due to the unprofessionalism of the promoter and previous DJs.

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Originally posted by Ghostface which Dj if you can remember? (just interested)

ah sorry i forget his dj alias, but his name was nick. lol that probably doesnt help! sorry

I usually throw down harddance, and it's rare I get 150bpm 4/4 to mix out of.

Killing the last set and starting from scratch isn't a bad thing.

sometimes is better than trying to mix out of an greatly opposing beat.

it's all about phrases. stop the offending track on a phrase, start the new rhythm on a phrase. try a powerdown or backscratch over a single beat.

or, if they are close enough to beatmatch, use the breakdowns to your advantage.

it *can* be made to sound good - it's just about avoiding conflicting sounds or obvious beat-mis-matching

i want to know what the hell markus schulz was doing headlining a TECHNO party?? thats not even close to his style...that's where the problem lies..

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Originally posted by MERiDiAN5i2 I usually throw down harddance, and it's rare I get 150bpm 4/4 to mix out of. Killing the last set and starting from scratch isn't a bad thing. sometimes is better than trying to mix out of an greatly opposing beat. it's all about phrases. stop the offending track on a phrase, start the new rhythm on a phrase. try a powerdown or backscratch over a single beat. or, if they are close enough to beatmatch, use the breakdowns to your advantage. it *can* be made to sound good - it's just about avoiding conflicting sounds or obvious beat-mis-matching

Seems to me like it wasn't the technical "mixing" that was messed up, it was just the clash of the styles.

ok this is really strange. Markus Schulz was not at this party. Can someone please get me some more information. Markus was at Space in Miami on NYE. Please get me info about this, as it seems something is wierd here.

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Originally posted by Floorfiller i want to know what the hell markus schulz was doing headlining a TECHNO party?? thats not even close to his style...that's where the problem lies..

YES! That is exactly what the problem is. He should never have been booked to headline a techno party. So whos fault is that?

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Originally posted by globalgirl ok this is really strange. Markus Schulz was not at this party. Can someone please get me some more information. Markus was at Space in Miami on NYE. Please get me info about this, as it seems something is wierd here.

I hear what you are saying.
It is however entireley possible that DJs play more than one venue in a night, especially on occassionas like new years eve as the months that follow are pretty dead.
I don't know that this was the case here but just thought I'd mention it.

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i don't think the promoter has anything to do w/ it. the dj should know who he's opening for and try to compliment him/her.(especially if it's an international dj)

I'm assuming that the night was marketed around Schultz being there?

Whilst it's always in the openers interest to find out as much about the headliner as they can. If you are a techno DJ then that's what you are. Perhaps he didn't have the records for that and in which case shouldn't have been playing and that comes back to the promoter. I still think it comes down to both, but the promoter should have been aware of what was happening if nothing else. In the past I have seen DJs get yanked off the decks after just 15 minutes for various reasons, and this is probably an occassion when you should have seen that happen.
It does sound like the crowd were more of a Techno orientation anyway and definately up for it so perhaps it should have been Shultz that got yanked. It would be in his contract that he would get paid anyway as it's in mine. We are not responsible for these types of errors in most cases and this type of thing can really damage a reputation as a headliner.

Unless I'm abroad I carry two boxes of records with me and a wide choice of music. It's the going abroad which is scary as you never know who you will end up playing with. In the UK, Netherlands, Belgium and Germany you can be pretty sure that you will be ok with regards to the type of night you end up on. Italy is usually ok too but after that it's a bit of an unknown quantity. It also depends on the size of the town you are playing in etc.

There are a million things that can go wrong as a DJ anyways and this isn't something you should have to worry about.

Cheers
Nem

Once again, Markus WAS NOT anywhere but Miami on NYE. Yes, it is possible for DJs on special occasions to be booked in more than one city, but I can tell you, FOR A FACT whoever it was that played this party was NOT Markus Schulz. If anyone has any info onthe promoter, a flyer with Markus' name on it, any info at all I would really like to get this information.

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Originally posted by globalgirl Once again, Markus WAS NOT anywhere but Miami on NYE. Yes, it is possible for DJs on special occasions to be booked in more than one city, but I can tell you, FOR A FACT whoever it was that played this party was NOT Markus Schulz. If anyone has any info onthe promoter, a flyer with Markus' name on it, any info at all I would really like to get this information.

Woooaaah! Calm down my friend... I'm just making a point. I didn't say he was anywhere. Just mentioned that a lot of DJs travel during one night as I do. During the summer it's normal for me to do it, usually every Friday and Saturday is a double booking. Get's even worse when you go abroad but it doesn't have to be a special occassion. Just depends on how much work you are getting.
Although I have never played in the US (Hope to soon) I imagine that the time zones would open up a lot of opportunities.

I would be very interested to see what comes of this because I have no reason to not beleive either of you (Globalgirl and Borron). I'm pretty sure there is a logical mistake somewhere that's either been lost in the world of posts or something else.

The only big name DJ I can tell you where he was on NYE for sure is Eddie Halliwell. Only because he headlined the club 200 yrds away from the one I played. We actually thought our night would suffer as a result but it didn't make a difference. We had an awesome NYE.

Cheers folks
Nem

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 Woooaaah! Calm down my friend... I'm just making a point. I didn't say he was anywhere. Just mentioned that a lot of DJs travel during one night as I do. During the summer it's normal for me to do it, usually every Friday and Saturday is a double booking. Get's even worse when you go abroad but it doesn't have to be a special occassion. Just depends on how much work you are getting. Although I have never played in the US (Hope to soon) I imagine that the time zones would open up a lot of opportunities. I would be very interested to see what comes of this because I have no reason to not beleive either of you (Globalgirl and Borron). I'm pretty sure there is a logical mistake somewhere that's either been lost in the world of posts or something else. The only big name DJ I can tell you where he was on NYE for sure is Eddie Halliwell. Only because he headlined the club 200 yrds away from the one I played. We actually thought our night would suffer as a result but it didn't make a difference. We had an awesome NYE. Cheers folks Nem

hehehe i think globalgirl trumps you on this one ..

greetz globalgirl

Well, i didn't aw any flyer before the party, so i really can't tell you. But beside the dj booth, there was these 2 large screens which once in a while rotated a name (like the windows screensaver) and it appeared Marcus Schulz many times during a guy's performance.
If he was Marcus or not, i can't really tell, because i don't know/didn't knew him!

my only concern is that if someone is misrepresenting themselves as Markus, well, I do kinda need to know and get to the bottom of it. I'm sure if someone else was running around saying they are Nemesis44 (for example), or even if your name was on a flyer and you weren't actually booked to play, you might want to know about it.

And yes, I understnad the double booking thing. Markus has been booked and is now booked in more than one location on a night. Play, get in the car/plane, drive/fly, play again.......

Just trying to protect my "investment" you might say

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Originally posted by Floorfiller hehehe i think globalgirl trumps you on this one .. greetz globalgirl

Perhaps... But I think you peeps are missing one thing. It is entirely possible for someone to play a new years eve set in a location in Europe and then fly to the US just in time to do the last set in there. This is due to the time difference between the two locations.

And the only actual justification she actually gave by the way, was the fact that she wrote in capitals nothing else.
As I said though, I have no reason to not believe Borron or Globalgirl and it's more than likely that they both speak the truth.

Cheers
Nem

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Originally posted by globalgirl I'm sure if someone else was running around saying they are Nemesis44 (for example), or even if your name was on a flyer and you weren't actually booked to play, you might want to know about it.

Nobody would be that stupid he he

Nem

PS
Sorry, didn't see your post when I wrote the other one.

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 Perhaps... But I think you peeps are missing one thing. It is entirely possible for someone to play a new years eve set in a location in Europe and then fly to the US just in time to do the last set in there. This is due to the time difference between the two locations. And the only actual justification she actually gave by the way, was the fact that she wrote in capitals nothing else. As I said though, I have no reason to not believe Borron or Globalgirl and it's more than likely that they both speak the truth. Cheers Nem

i know...it was just funny because...well...its globalgirl...and she has...how do you say...a close relationship with markus hehehe

lol, yeah, as his wife I do tend to know his appearance schedule pretty well

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Originally posted by globalgirl lol, yeah, as his wife I do tend to know his appearance schedule pretty well

LMFAO

OK OK OK... point taken... he he Yup, that does qualify you to know where he was. Why didn't you just say so, instead of making me look like a right lemon. Mind you, were would the fun be in that eh?

I'm sure Borron has a few questions with regards to who he actually saw pass himself off as Mr Schultz though? And must admit that this has got my curiosity too.

Cheers
Nem

PS
Don't DJ as Nemesis that would just be too darn cheesy.

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