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Originally posted by SuperFarStucker a lot of boards that say they support 133 fsb really don't, most notably boards with certain via chipsets.

most modern boards do, otherwise Athlon XP and P4s are only used to a fraction of their potential

The mobo in this situation is indeed a modern board.

Manufactured by ASROCK? Call me a skeptic, I most recently purchased an ASUS board that has this exact same problem. Tried everything I could think of (adjusting voltage etc)... Just won't post at 133. I know it's a 133 chip too... KillDaDJ, make sure your ram is 133 fsb ddr, therein your problem may lie

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Originally posted by Mosaic most modern boards do, otherwise Athlon XP and P4s are only used to a fraction of their potential The mobo in this situation is indeed a modern board.

Saying a fraction is entirely misleading.. maybe a 10% "real" performance hit Theoretically a 25% hit to performance, but realized is much less than that.

3/4 is closer to 1 than it is to 0

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Originally posted by SuperFarStucker Saying a fraction is entirely misleading.. maybe a 10% "real" performance hit Theoretically a 25% hit to performance, but realized is much less than that. 3/4 is closer to 1 than it is to 0

sorry, I actually wrote that wrong, meant to say would lack a fraction of performance.

curious tho: what ASUS board?

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Originally posted by SuperFarStucker Manufactured by ASROCK? Call me a skeptic, I most recently purchased an ASUS board that has this exact same problem. Tried everything I could think of (adjusting voltage etc)... Just won't post at 133. I know it's a 133 chip too... KillDaDJ, make sure your ram is 133 fsb ddr, therein your problem may lie

u may have a point...im on SDRAM atm as im too cheap to buy DDR, since i just yanked out my old ram and chucked it in this new board, the board supports both DDR/SDRAM but not simutaniusly (sp?)

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Originally posted by Mosaic Okay, so as I understand it: The fSB can be set on the motherboard using jumpers. 1 [2 3] Gives you FSB 100MHZ [1 2] 3 Gives you FSB 133MHZ Obviously, you want the latter option. Try this: Set the jumper to 100MHZ Open the BIOS, under the ADVANCED tab, set the CPU Host Frequency to AUTO Save, Shutdown Now, pop the jumper to 133MHZ. Startup, see what happens.

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Originally posted by KilldaDJ my motherboard supports both 100/133mhz, it says in the manual, that i gotta short some jumpers to set the FSB as well as do it in the bios, but when i went to set the FSB (jumper wise) the system didnt get past the POST and my monitor didnt boot up, so i had to reset the CMOS, then the problems started happening again... i got into windows with an overclock of 120mhz, that made my pc run at 1.5ghz, which is below what it should be at. my C: started to go corrupt. i had to reinstall XP, so i did that. now im back to square one, at 1250mhz. i fucking hate this, my processor is capable of 1.6ghz but the system is happy with 1.3ghz...POS well, i guess im stuck at 1.3ghz.

well... if the bus speed was set at AUTO, why did u need to reset the CMOS...?

I would suggest contacting ASROCK, cuz this is starting to sound semi-fucked up...

(on board bus speed jumper, wtf)

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Originally posted by KilldaDJ u may have a point...im on SDRAM atm as im too cheap to buy DDR, since i just yanked out my old ram and chucked it in this new board, the board supports both DDR/SDRAM but not simutaniusly (sp?)

I can almost guarentee you that it is your problem. That is, unless that board just really sucks. DDR 266 (pc2100 IIRC) ram is cheap ~ pricewatch.com Actually your better off getting DDR 333 cos its cheaper

56 US (INC SHIPPING) for 512 mb's of ram

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Originally posted by Mosaic well... if the bus speed was set at AUTO, why did u need to reset the CMOS...? I would suggest contacting ASROCK, cuz this is starting to sound semi-fucked up... (on board bus speed jumper, wtf)

because it wouldnt even light up my monitor.

theres manual overrides in the bios to set a fsb speed, its on auto (which is 100mhz)

oh fuck this im gunna take pictures before some cheeky bastard posts that pics or stfu BS

either use a jumper to reset bios like mine which is a really new MB or take out the little battery thing on your motherboard and wait a minute then put it back in, which resets the bios

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Originally posted by mndeg either use a jumper to reset bios like mine which is a really new MB or take out the little battery thing on your motherboard and wait a minute then put it back in, which resets the bios

Almost all motherboards for like.. ever have had a jumper/pair of connectors that you short together to reset... Sometimes it's a pain in the ass though and easier to just take out the battery.

PICS OR STFU!!!!!








































































































j/k

Im running my xp 1700 at 2.21 ghz(Stock 1.43 ghz)


Overclocked of course. =D

and here r the images







if i set a manual clock speed, like 120mhz, it will corrupt my hard drive, i set it at 101mhz before and my computer ran fine.

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Originally posted by KilldaDJ and here r the images if i set a manual clock speed, like 120mhz, it will corrupt my hard drive, i set it at 101mhz before and my computer ran fine.

Your ram is shit, that's why you cannot run at the proper speed, see where it says SDR1 then after that 100 mhz? Your maximum bus speed without using a divider is dependant on your ram speed. You have cheap 100 mhz sdram you need at least pc133 to run a 133 bus If you wanted to you could use a divisor on your ram clockspeed but the performance hit would be so huge it would outweigh the gain by increasing your busspeed and thus processor speed. Just buy new ram

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Originally posted by SuperFarStucker Your ram is shit, that's why you cannot run at the proper speed, see where it says SDR1 then after that 100 mhz? Your maximum bus speed without using a divider is dependant on your ram speed. You have cheap 100 mhz sdram you need at least pc133 to run a 133 bus If you wanted to you could use a divisor on your ram clockspeed but the performance hit would be so huge it would outweigh the gain by increasing your busspeed and thus processor speed. Just buy new ram

oh right, cheers

i get some DDR ram as i heard thats better or something, SDRAM PC100 stinks hehe...

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